"Doctrine changes when pastoral contexts shift and new insights emerge such that particularly doctrinal formulations no longer mediate the saving message of God's transforming love?" Does he mean that "Doctrine changes when the Church has leaders and teachers who are not afraid to take note of new contexts and emerging insights?" Or does he mean that, "It changes when the Church has pastors who do what Francis has been insisting: leave the securities of your chanceries, of your rectories, of your safe places, of your episcopal residences go set aside the small minded rules that often keep you locked up and shielded from the world?"The combox is open. You can say what you want.
Just remember, Tom Rosica was trying to sue me in order to prevent me from "directly or indirectly" referencing or even using an online link to anything he would say which would have prevented me from even reporting this to you.
Have a good sleep Tom.
And say your prayers.
Synod15: Press Briefing Oct. 6th
Fr. Rosica Speaks on Synod Delegates, Fathers Discussing the Need to Embrace People Where They Are
'There must be an end to exclusionary language and a strong emphasis on embracing reality as it is. We should not be afraid of new and complex situations.'
These were words of Basilian Father Thomas Rosica, the Vatican's English speaking language spokesperson, this afternoon who was speaking at the briefing of the Synod's second day in the Vatican press office, with its director, Father Federico Lombardi, Italian Archbishop Claudio Celli, and Canadian Cardinal Paul-Andre Durocher.
The Oct. 4-25 meeting is being held on the topic "The vocation and mission of the family in the Church and the contemporary world."
When giving English speaking journalists an overview of what's taken place since yesterday's press office briefing, Fr. Rosica shared that Pope Francis gave a short discourse this morning to the synod fathers and delegates following one given by Cardinal Baldisseri, who realizing many of those present this year had not been last year, explained to them the importance of working in the small groups and speaking freely.
Pope Francis also reminded those gathered of the three official documents, points of reference, from the last synod: his opening words, the first day last year in October, his closing discourse on Oct. 18, and the Relatio Synodi which was released at the end. Fr. Rosica also mentioned how the Pope also suggested that this synod and the one last year are in total continuity with one another.
The Holy Father stressed that discussing the question of giving communion to the divorced and remarried is not the theme of the synod, but one of many important priorities. The spokesman said the Pope's address was very brief, but very positive and encouraging, especially for those there for the first time.
Fr. Rosica gave some initial observations. First of all the brevity of the interventions has helped foster clarity of expression. "If you can't say it in three minutes, then you can't say it. And the three minutes have been very productive. They say what they want to say," he said.
Second, the family is the protagonist of the new evangelization and the main actor in renewing the sacrament of marriage as the family. Thirdly, the role of the priest is indispensable, especially with helping couples, and given this, his own formation is especially important.
Aiming to summarize the some 70 interventions given mostly in Italian, English and French as well as in Spanish, German and Portuguese, Fr. Rosica said the issues of migration, poverty, employment, war, and the major refugee problem and how to best react these challenges were greatly considered. Other issues brought up, he noted, included domestic violence, violence in the Church, and sexual abuse.
Regarding the idea of divorced remarried Catholics being able to receive communion, he noted how some assert it would be more difficult to come up with a universal response, but instead makes sense to come up with a regional treatment. He said it may make sense to examine and perhaps treat the situation on a more local, regional, even continental level.
Certain other issues, he shared, may also make sense to consider locally, such as polygamy.
The importance of changing language used to address certain difficult situations, Fr. Rosica said, was highlighted. "The language must be renewed," he said, noting how this is especially appropriate and linked to the Extraordinary Jubilee Year of Mercy which Pope Francis has declared, Dec. 8, 2015 - Nov. 20, 2015. "The Jubilee of Mercy requires a language of mercy," he stated. Father Rosica underscored how language ought to always be inclusive, rather than exclusive, particularly for homosexuals.
"In particular, when speaking about homosexuals or gay persons," he said, "we recognize them for who they are: They are our sons, our daughters, and brothers, sisters, neighbors and colleagues."
He noted how many expressed how a pastoral approach is needed for couples living together, to welcome and help them move forward toward a fulfilling married life, one which says: "Look, God loves you as and where you are, but God doesn't want you to stay there. He wants you to go further."
A common suggestion of the delegates, he noted, was not only for greater preparation before entering into marriage, but to continue into its early stages to help couples adapt to their lives as spouses.
Moreover, the synod fathers and delegates spoke about the role and treatment of the elderly, especially for their importance in transmitting the faith and values with in families.
(October 06, 2015) © Innovative Media Inc.
9 comments:
Thomas Rosica is far too busy inventing a new kid of language, a new and improved kind of mercy, one divorced from justice, collectively - at the sodomy synod, as to pay any attention to those who look back at our Lord Jesus, instead of moving forward to the new utopia of world peace, Chrislam, social justice and love for Mother Gaia. After all, new contexts and situations emerged that our Lord who is eternal and knew all that was is and will be, when He created the world, somehow missed in His wisdom. This is why we have "father" Rosica, to help God evolve.
It is the eternal God who informs us about contexts and situations, who tells us what contexts to make and which to avoid and reject. Falsehood- and sin-inspired contexts do not inform God, but they so obviously inform T. Rosica.
"The importance of changing language used to address certain difficult situations, Fr. Rosica said, was highlighted. "The language must be renewed," he said, noting how this is especially appropriate and linked to the Extraordinary Jubilee Year of Mercy which Pope Francis has declared, Dec. 8, 2015 - Nov. 20, 2015. "The Jubilee of Mercy requires a language of mercy," he stated. Father Rosica underscored how language ought to always be inclusive, rather than exclusive, particularly for homosexuals.
"In particular, when speaking about homosexuals or gay persons," he said, "we recognize them for who they are: They are our sons, our daughters, and brothers, sisters, neighbors and colleagues."
A major effort has been unleashed within the Church to alter language in regard to homosexuals. We have reached the point at which Catholics who oppose and condemn error are excoriated whenever said error is the sin of the Sodomites.
I was chastised the other day by an anonymous poster on a Catholic blog for my having employed the term "sin of the Sodomites." That term is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The sin of sodomy is noted in a 1986 CDF document signed by Josef Cardinal Ratzinger and approved by Pope Saint John Paul II.
However, it is clear that powerful forces within the Church are determined to change the language in regard to sodomy. Anybody who dares use that term with be attacked and labeled a "bigot."
I would not be surprised if the forces in question begin to label as "pejorative" the word "homosexual." "Gay" will become the permitted word.
We may even reach the point where it becomes "bigoted" to use the term "homosexual marriage." Pro-homosexual forces may argue that people, for example, do not tend to use the term i"heterosexual marriage."
That is, nobody says "Bill and Jane are in a 'heterosexual marriage.'" Nobody says that "next Saturday, you are invited to Bill and Jane's 'heterosexual marriage.'"
The homosexual mafia will argue that qualifying a marriage as a "homosexual marriage" constitutes a form of discrimination as it would suggest that a homosexual "marriage" is different from and somehow not on par with "regular" marriage.
They will argue that marriage is marriage. They will claim that differentiating homosexual "marriage" from marriage (as most people understand marriage, that is, between a man and woman) constitutes bigotry.
By the way, on the Catholic blog I had noted earlier in my post, the anonymous poster also challenged me for my having insisted that homosexual "marriage" promotes the Culture of Death.
The Thought Police are determined in particular to wage war against Catholics who refuse to march in lockstep with pro-Sodomy Culture of Death Forces. An any rate, the pro-Sodomite forces will begin their assault in question by changing the language.
For those familiar with the old U.S. television show "All in the Family" (based upon a British show), be prepared to be labeled an "Archie Bunker" bigot by the homosexual mafia
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Guess what?
A writer by the name of Richard Gaillardetz wrote this in the neo-modernist, National Catholic Reporter, on September 25, 2013:
"Will this pope rewrite controversial church doctrines? No, but that isn't how doctrine changes. Doctrine changes when pastoral contexts shift and new insights emerge such that particular doctrinal formulations no longer mediate the saving message of God's transforming love. Doctrine changes when the church has leaders and teachers who are not afraid to take note of new contexts and emerging insights. It changes when the church has pastors who do what Francis has been insisting on for the last six months: Leave the security of your chanceries, rectories, parish offices and episcopal residences. Set aside the "small-minded rules" that keep you locked up and shielded from the world. Go meet the people where they are".
An amazing coincidence.
How does he dare to represent Jesus Christ...
Are all of them there lost their mind???
Yeah. Connecticut Catholic pointed out that in a recent CNN interview Rosica characterized the recent annulment changes has helping Catholics in situations where "love has failed", an odd way to sum up the question of validity, to say the least. Then again, Rosica's theory is consistent with his recent quasi-advocacy of polygamy. After all, by having many wives you're maximizing your chances that at least one marriage will work out. Are you not?
Yes Mark, the persecution of the faithful is moving along faster than a speeding bullet WITHIN the Church of Christ. We all knew this was coming, but I guess we are always surprised when it comes so quickly. 'Sodomy' describes the immorality succinctly and accurately, and really there is no other word to describe it. For me and my house, we will call it Sodomy no matter who objects and who doesn't no matter how much they want to 'change the language'.
@ TLM
My house calls me a hater for using the word "Sodomy", a backward person and a bigot, so do all my friends. This is the price I pay for having been progressive once, before I saw what pleasure-driven (versus truth-driven) well-meaning people turn into really fast. We now have these progressives, who, like Obama, "move forward" without even defining, what that means. I see what it means - going backwards, drawing inspiration from the animal/plant kingdom and not from eternal God who is a Person, favouring lukewarmness over passionate dedication/"fanaticism", pushing for the common ground between that which is logically irreconcilable, rejection of reason and free will, rejection of individual conscience and individual responsibility. A lowest common denominator, a duplicitous hero, a "humble" arrogant destroyer, a dumbed down masses on prozac and pornography. I stand alone and I ask God for strength every day. I do not know that He answers, but I believe He does.
Darota, I am glad you're commenting again.
Vox, thank You. Thank you very much for this blog.
I just had a serious family emergency, and... it is hard to explain even to myself, how I did it, but by God's help. Though we got a glimpse of evil and death, my dysfunctional family's head IS still alive. He went to his New Age former Catholic brother's traditional Catholic funeral, but never got there. We found him in a hospital, unconscious, after he shared a coffee with a fellow-traveller. Had to pay many penalties for "lost" documents - courtesy of our government.
Therefore, unexpectedly I visited my Catholic Parents twice this last summer. Barely returned to Calgary, had to go back to Poland. My Mother said, upon seeing the whole Charamsa spectacle, that while at church, she asked herself: What am I doing here? Who is this Francis, why doesn't he do something, and what are his intentions? My old Father gave up, he doesn't want to know anything any more. This is what these cardinals, bishops, theologians, priests and sodomites have done to good people who have followed Christ their entire lives.
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