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Thursday, 15 October 2015

Dew of some other spirit

Does Cardinal Dew of New Zealand, whom Father Rosica calls "a very wise shepherd" want to change the Catechism of the Catholic Church?

Here are Dew's words which can be found at this CNS interview:
Such people need to be respected, not condemned, this is their sexual orientation, we must try somehow to include them in the life of the Church. ... When we have documents that talk about intrinsically disordered or being evil it's not going to help people...not putting it in ways that people are being branded or told that they are bad or evil. ... Scripture was written for a particular time, Paul was writing about particular issues and so for people to just pick up something or Church authorities to quote something without putting it in context is not helpful for people.
On the sin of sodomy and homosexual desires the Catechism of the Catholic Church states the following:
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfil God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

The Catechism refers to the acts undertaken by those suffering from same-sex attraction as being of "grave depravity." Cardinal Dew, speaks of language in the interview and Father Rosica states in his Tweet, that the Church's "language on sexuality must change." It seems then that one of the words to be changed must be "depravity." Well, what else does one call fisting, slurping, analingus, coprophilia, felching, along with the more routine acts of sucking and anal insertion if not actions of great depravity which can result in serious medical conditions including early death in this life and eternal damnation in the next. 

These are not only "depraved" but the acts are "intrinsically disordered" and changing language does not change the facts. The inclination to perform these acts is "objectively disordered. They are called, as we all are, to live lives of chastity based upon our station in life. 

Dew is literally demanding the undermining the Catechism of the Catholic Church and he cannot deny it. To do so violates noncontradiction.

Dew wishes to go even further wherein he states that, "Scripture was written for a particular time, (Saint) Paul was writing about particular issues." Dew demands that we ignore St. Paul; should we ignore what the rest of Scripture states? 
Genesis 19:4-8: " But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, so that we may know them.” Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, “I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Look, I have two daughters who have not known a man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof." 
Judges 19:22-24: " While they were enjoying themselves, the men of the city, a perverse lot, surrounded the house, and started pounding on the door. They said to the old man, the master of the house, “Bring out the man who came into your house, so that we may have intercourse with him. And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, “No, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Since this man is my guest, do not do this vile thing. Here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do whatever you want to them; but against this man do not do such a vile thing.” 
Leviticus 18:22-25: "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. You shall not have sexual relations with any animal and defile yourself with it, nor shall any woman give herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it: it is perversion. Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, for by all these practices the nations I am casting out before you have defiled themselves. Thus the land became defiled; and I punished it for its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants.    
1 Corinthians 6:9-11: "Do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Fornicators, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, sodomites, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, revilers, robbers—none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. And this is what some of you used to be. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God." 
1 Timothy 1:10: "Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it legitimately. 9 This means understanding that the law is laid down not for the innocent but for the lawless and disobedient, for the godless and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their father or mother, for murderers, fornicators, sodomites, slave traders, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to the sound teaching that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me." 
Romans 1:24-27: " Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the degrading of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen. For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. " 
Jude 1:5-7: "Now I desire to remind you, though you are fully informed, that the Lord, who once for all saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness for the judgment of the great day. Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire."
Would this Francis appointed Cardinal, a man who clearly spouts heresy, change the rest of the Holy Scriptures?

Let's not forget what the disgraced sodomite wrongfully ordained to the Catholic priesthood, Charamsa had to say:
"We demand that the Catholic Church divest itself of activities, the mentality and language of homophobia, hate speech, humiliation and depreciating, marginalization, stigmatization and rejection of LGBT people. We demand the cessation of the Church of discrimination and soft persecution of these people so within it as well as beyond its borders." 
Again, remember what Rosica said on the second day of the Synod: 
'There must be an end to exclusionary language and a strong emphasis on embracing reality as it is. We should not be afraid of new and complex situations.  ... the importance of changing language used to address certain difficult situations, ... the language must be renewed."
The heretical Dew stated about putting Scripture in "context." We've heard about "contexts" before, from Thomas J. Rosica.
"Will this Pope re-write controversial Church doctrines? No. But that isn't how doctrine changes. Doctrine changes when pastoral contexts shift and new insights emerge such that particularly doctrinal formulations no longer mediate the saving message of God's transforming love. Doctrine changes when the Church has leaders and teachers who are not afraid to take note of new contexts and emerging insights. It changes when the Church has pastors who do what Francis has been insisting: leave the securities of your chanceries, of your rectories, of your safe places, of your episcopal residences go set aside the small minded rules that often keep you locked up and shielded from the world."
This friends, is why we must not cease in raising the alarm as to what these men in Rome are doing. That is why you must understand clearly what is at stake and that you do not fear from raising these issues with your Catholic friends and families.

We are facing the worst crisis of the Church since the Protestant revolution and the Arian heresy. What a time we have been given in which to live. What disturbs me the most, is that this is all being done under the eye of the Bishop of Rome himself and seemingly with his approval, this speaking heresy and fomenting dissent from the Catholic faith as handed on to us, seems to be at the behest of the Pope of Rome, himself.

Let that sink in a moment.

Don't let them make you feel guilty when they tell you that you must be "respectful." I respected the "gay" cashier at the market and did not call him a sodomite or damn him to Hell because it is not my place. Nor is it yours, in that "context."

But when these homosexualists try to attack my Mother and undermine the Faith handed on to me by my late earthly mother, you're damn right I will call them exactly what they are.

For more on this Dew character, check out Father Z.



Joseph D'Hippolito said...

This isn't anything new. JPII arbitrarily changed Catholic teaching concerning capital punishment -- and got away with it! How?

1. The bishops' pervasive careerism: Mimic what the leader says or believes, and you might get rewarded.
2. The idea that obedience trumps everything, even common sense, let alone divine revelation. The Apologetics-Industrial Complex (Patheos and Catholic Answers) have done a fine job using the velvet glove in reinforcing that value.
3. JPII's extensive cult of personality, which said complex above did an even better job of cultivating.

Not for nothing does Rex Mottram symbolize lay Catholicism.

Ana Milan said...

The Church needs to go back to Scripture and call these homosexual acts Sodomy. There is no way one can continue to be nice to that community, it just doesn't work. Instead of clearing these sodomites out of the Church, Pope Francis seems to be hand in glove with them, even to inviting a despicable pro-abortion & paedophile sympathiser to the Synod on the Family, plus of course his student (now Bishop) who he hopes will soon become a Cardinal. It is truly shocking!

Eccles said...

But the man has a testimonial from Fr Rosica! What more does anyone need?

A Daughter of Mary said...

Very good post, Vox. You have the courage to speak the truth about these sins that cry to Heaven. Wouldn't it be great if someone in the press gallery would ask Father (call me Tom!) Rosica to describe the practices of sodomites - just so we would all know what it is we're being asked to approve. Love, is it?

Who are we to judge St. Paul (no less) and say that he was speaking in his particular time and place. Funny, St. Paul was describing exactly the same sins committed today. Truly there is nothing new under the sun.

Dorota said...

The "new context" is simply the moral decay which came with the sexual revolution and the compliance of the Church with the plan to separate sexual activity from the goal of procreation. Had the Church refused to comply with this evil from the start, we would not have this diabolical "context".
Evolution of a Christian (and any rational human being) is in becoming increasingly Christ-like, not increasingly beast-like. Christ willingly took up the Cross, so must we, if we are to call ourselves His followers. A hedonist who demands from all a full acceptance of all his proclivities, who elevates pleasure above truth and natural law, who rejects his cross and denies others a freedom to speak against the weakness he insist on calling love, has no right to call himself a Christian. These intellectually challenged unfortunates use the "argument" - God makes no mistakes, I was born this way. They have already made the way for the paedophiles, necrophiliacs and other "oppressed minorities", such as serial killers. These churchmen who demand a change in language demand (logic dictates) respect for paedophiles. These paedophiles within the Church, whom some of Synod fathers had allegedly protected in the past, certainly desire a change in language, ASAP. They may soon make demands like Charamsa did.

Father John Matthew Duffy said...

I cannot understand why a "synod on the family" is being advised by, and seems to be seeking the counsel of, homosexual heretics. As informed Christians, we all know that homosexual behavior - and the recent glamourization of homosexuaity - has added to the destructive forces that are impacting terribly on the dignity, united and Divinely-revealed nature and mission of the Christian Family. Clearly, some of the "synod fathers" have insinuated themselves into the hierarchy of the Catholic Faith. These dubious "men" are not in the service of Christ, but are in the service of their own disordered inclinations and, as such, are in the service of Satan. We must pray for the triumph of Christ in this Synod - and for the protection of the very soul of the Catholic Faith.

Father John Matthew Duffy

tuleesh said...

How long, oh Lord? How long?!!!!

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Anonymous said...

Another who has moved FAR FROM CHRIST. Another who seeks to make Sodomite Sin acceptable in our Holy Church. Another ' worldly' man who seeks not God's Holy Kingdom but believes the first lie from satan in the garden: "Ye shall be as gods."

Tell me Cardinal Dew..How many Sodomites will be gathered around the HOLY, SINLESS Throne of God? How mant Holy Angels accept sodomites? NONE!
Our HOLY Catholic Church must expel this filth who seek to ' make acceptable' the unholy sins of Sodom and Gomorrah.