Archbishop Paul-Andre Durocher - You have your reward!

Again, one doesn't need go far these days to figure out what to blog about. There are enough clowns in clerics that it just sort of writes itself.

During the Synod on the Family last October, Paul-Andre Durocher, the Archbishop of Hull, in Quebec, a dying Diocese with no vocations and empty churches, pushed the idea of women deacons. 

We reported on that back then. What that had to do with a Synod on the Family is still not comprehensible.

The National "Catholic" Reporter, a newspaper that is still in defiance with the use of Catholic in its masthead, is granting our boy Durocher, an award. Catholic Intelligence Blog has broken the story.

What is it with these priests and bishops and awards?

“I know that I am being given this award because of my intervention at the Synod last October inviting my brother bishops to study the question of women being ordained to the permanent diaconate,” Durocher wrote. “This was one of a few proposals I made to recognize the gifts that women can bring to leadership and teaching functions within the Church. The heart of my intervention considered the ongoing violence perpetrated by men against their spouses in a conjugal relationship.

So, we need Deaconettes because some guys beat their wives?

UPDATE:

I am privileged to have some excellent commenters and I am thankful for this link and reminder.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19860725_carlo-curran_en.html

The several dissenting positions which this Congregation contested, namely, on a right to public dissent from the ordinary Magisterium, the indissolubility of consummated sacramental marriage, abortion, euthanasia, masturbation, artificial contraception, premarital intercourse and homosexual acts, were listed carefully enough in the above-mentioned observations in July of 1983 and have since been published. There is no point in entering into any detail concerning the fact that you do indeed dissent on these issues.

It is the condemnation by the Pope John Paul II himself under the pen of then Cardinal Ratzinger of the heretical Charles Curran.

Why would Archbishop Durocher consent to be involved with any conference that also features Curran?

A case of birds of a feather, no doubt.

What a curse we Catholics in Canada must endure from these unfaithful, arrogant, emasculated overseers. They don't deserve our respect.

Never has the expression, "he has his reward" been more apt.

FutureChurch honors Canadian archbishop for advancing discussion of women's leadership

Traci Badalucco  |  Sep. 20, 2016 NCR Today

Women deacons

A Canadian archbishop will be recognized in Cleveland Thursday for his efforts in advancing the discussion of female deacons and promoting female leadership within the Catholic church.
FutureChurch [1] -- a Catholic reform organization that advocates for more collaborative and inclusive structures in the church -- will Sept. 22 present Archbishop Paul-André Durocher of the Gatineau diocese with the Father Louis J. Trivison Award at its 26th Annual Fall Benefit in Cleveland, Ohio.
FutureChurch is honoring Durocher for what it called "his visionary proposal during the 2015 Family Synod in Rome calling on bishops to discuss women deacons and expand leadership for women in the Church including greater opportunities for preaching."
The award is named for the organization's late co-founder.
"Archbishop Durocher's leadership deserves recognition because he calls the Church to fully recognize and engage women's gifts, ministries and leadership, a key component of FutureChurch's mission," said Deborah Rose-Milavec, executive director, in a Sept. 20 press release.
"FutureChurch supporters began working to advance women in church leadership in the early '90s and, we are grateful that the work continues today through their efforts and the efforts of Catholic leaders like Archbishop Durocher," she said.
In an email to NCR Sept. 21*, Durocher confirmed that he would be accepting the award from FutureChurch via livestream.
"I know that I am being given this award because of my intervention at the Synod last October inviting my brother bishops to study the question of women being ordained to the permanent diaconate," Durocher wrote. "This was one of a few proposals I made to recognize the gifts that women can bring to leadership and teaching functions within the Church. The heart of my intervention considered the ongoing violence perpetrated by men against their spouses in a conjugal relationship.
"Acknowledging the gifts of women within ecclesiastical structures is one way the Church can teach by example that women's dignity is inviolable and needs to be protected and celebrated within the marriage covenant," he continued. "In accepting this award, my mind and heart will be with the millions of women who continue to suffer from the scourge of conjugal abuse." 
At the 2015 Synod of Bishops on the family in Rome, Durocher used part of his three-minute intervention to talk about female deacons. He spoke to NCR in May about the intervention [2].
"Since the synod members themselves and the pope in his letter didn't refer to the role of women in the church very clearly, I was hoping it was a seed planted in the ground and praying it would bear fruit at one point, but I didn't know if it would," Durocher told NCR in a May phone interview shortly after Pope Francis announced the creation of a commission to study female deacons[3].
Durocher said that a number of bishops he spoke with at the synod were favorable of studying the idea.
Rose-Milavec, who was also in Rome during the synod, said she spoke with Durocher after his speech about how he would continue his efforts in advocating for more female inclusiveness in the church.
"He promised he would continue working with his own bishops in Canada," Rose-Milavec told NCR in a Sept. 20 phone interview. "I think he was inspired by some of them. We wanted to honor that."
This year's Annual Fall Benefit is especially important, said Rose-Milavec, due to Francis' creating the commission on female deacons.
"This is the stuff we've been working for for a very long time," she said. "We are hopeful that we will have a good outcome to the commission."
At the time of the synod and after Durocher's intervention, FutureChurch launched a petition to support his proposal. The organization received 8,500 signatures from FutureChurch supporters "within a couple of days," Rose-Milavec said.
Around 140 people are expected to attend the FutureChurch event at the Cleveland Airport Marriott.
Durocher is scheduled to appear via livestream to accept the award and to address the assembly.
Fr. Charles Curran, a theology professor at Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Texas, will also speak at the event about Francis' Amoris Laetitia ("The Joy of Love") an apostolic exhortation reflecting on the family.
Rose-Milavec said the April 8 release of Amoris Laetitia also makes this a particular year for the church. "We think that within that document there are brand new openings on conscience," she said. "And Fr. Charlie Curran has been at the forefront of that discussion for a very long time."
Rose-Milavec said Curran will discuss topics including ways in which Catholics can rely on their conscience, who should be included and excluded in the church, and how to relate to the church.
[Traci Badalucco is an NCR Bertelsen intern.]
*This article was updated with Archbishop Durocher's response at 12:38  p.m. CST.

"They chose seven men" and the predecessors of Phyllis Zagano were not amongst them!

In another post, analysing some of the appointees to the commission to study the creation of deaconettes/deaconesses, Father Z quotes German theologian Karl-Heinz Menke, who will sit on the commission. In Die Zeit, Menke states:

The Second Vatican Council conclusively clarified the question whether the deacon receives the Sacrament of Orders. The Sacrament of Orders is received not only by the bishop and the priest, but also by the deacon. If there is only one Sacrament of Orders (in three stages, that is, deacon, priest, bishop), the admission of women would be sacramental, transmitted through ordination, diaconate would mean their admission to priestly and episcopal ordination.

During a recent diaconal ordination, I noted that sitting beside the bishop at his throne was not a priest, but a deacon. During the whole Mass, the bishop was assisted at the altar and at the faldstool, by a deacon. Following the ordination, the new deacon took his proper place at the altar beside the bishop. It was obvious, that the first role of the deacon, is to assist the bishop. The deacon is first and foremost, a liturgical minister. He also assists the bishop, as the prayers made clear, in other assignments, including charitable actions on the bishop's behalf.

The Second Reading  for the Mass of Ordination was appropriately from the Book of Acts beginning at chapter six. Let us take a look at what Holy Scripture states. I have chosen it from the New Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition, just to point out that the newest, most scholarly translation, and the one used in the approved Canadian Lectionary, is quite clear:

6 Now during those days, when the disciples were increasing in number, the Hellenists complained against the Hebrews because their widows were being neglected in the daily distribution of food. 2 And the twelve called together the whole community of the disciples and said, “It is not right that we should neglect the word of God in order to wait on tables.  3 Therefore, friends, select from among yourselves seven men of good standing, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we may appoint to this task, 4 while we, for our part, will devote ourselves to prayer and to serving the word.” 5 What they said pleased the whole community, and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and the Holy Spirit, together with Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolaus, a proselyte of Antioch. 6 They had these men stand before the apostles, who prayed and laid their hands on them.

Note that, they selected "seven men." Seven men, not seven women! 

Not even one, woman!

Not. One. Woman! 

Not Phoebe. Not Miriam. Not Sarah. Not Elizabeth. Not Mary. 

Not any woman. 

They chose men.

Who are we in our modernist mindset to argue with the Apostles. Only a fool or an apostate would attempt it. Who are you, who am I to dispute Holy Scripture. Who is any priest or any so-called, "theologian." Who is any bishop or cardinal to do this? What kind of pope would think this even possible.

To put the matter to rest, Pope John Paul II had the matter studied. No women deacons. He also pronounced definitively, no women priests. The matter was studied decades ago. Instead of just admitting he misspoke, which would be a true sign of humility, Francis charges ahead. Why? Is it because he cannot admit he erred?  Is it to placate women that this is something to study and then reject? Cruel, to be sure and dishonest. Is it to change the Church and blame those opposed to his Peronist schemes as not trusting the "god of surprises?"

Based upon what he did at the Synod, I suspect that if the Commission does not do as he wants, he will do what he wants; and I suspect it will be to have some kind of women deacons.

Women were never deacons.

Any women that may have been called such were the wives of deacons. They assisted women getting into baptismal pools and other functions for the sake of modesty. They were not ordained.

No woman can be ordained deacon.

No woman can take the role of the deacon described above.

If a woman wishes to "serve," she can become a religious sister or a contemplative nun. How hard is this for the Bishop of Rome and feminist, radical religious and their aiders and abettors such Phyllis Zagano to understand. The fact is, they do understand it. They want women priests even if they don't live long enough to see it! That is what this is about. This is the nose of the camel into the tent.

Those who are pushing for this are apostates.

We follow Our Lord Jesus Christ and the revealed truth of Holy Scripture and Holy Tradition as it has been handed down to us. Period!

The Pope is being irresponsible by undertaking this unnecessary commission and Phyllis Zagano, is an apostate!

Any diocesan official such as the Judicial Vicar for the Archdiocese of  Toronto, who would sit on a panel discussing and promoting "women deacons" and not denounce such ideas is misleading the faithful. What position did the Reverend Brian Clough take on the matter of women deacons when he had the chance at St. Michael's College? Did the Judicial Vicar reject it? Did he correct Phyllis Zagano and denounce the idea? Did he remain silent on it? 

When you're a bishop, such as Durocher of Hull, what does it say about you when you go to a Synod on the Family and raise this heretical agenda of women deacons?

Let the light shine. 

http://voxcantor.blogspot.ca/2016/07/phyllis-zagano-and-national-schismatic.html

http://voxcantor.blogspot.ca/2015/10/now-durocher-wants-women-deacon-youre.html

http://voxcantor.blogspot.ca/2016/05/there-have-never-been-women-deacons.html

http://voxcantor.blogspot.ca/2016/08/i-say-deaconnettes-you-say-deaconesses.html

Paul Durocher - daydream doodling and doctrinal diddlying

Paul Durocher. Now there's a name we've not heard since October. Please forgive me for not putting his title as a prefix. Truly, when he starts acting it, I'll start addressing him by it.

Y'all remember Paul Durocher, right? 

He was Canada's great contribution to last October's Synod to destroy the family held in Rome. That's right. Paul Durocher, erstwhile musicologist and Archbishop of Gatineau, a lovely little place across the River Outaouais from our Nation's Capital, just down the road from the rather seedy village of Hull. Well, young Paul, the poor suffering and deluded Catholics on the north side of the Ottawa River have this man for another dozen or more years, is the one who stood up at that infamous Synod and declared the most profound need for the family was to have women deacons.

That's right. 

The Synod on the Family used by this so-called "Shepherd" to push a radical feminist political agendas.

Now, how many priests do you think the Archdiocese of Gatineau has left? Well, as of 2013, a grand total of 61 priests with 21 of those being of Religious Orders and 1 Deacon. That is 1 priest for every 4,366 souls. Compare that with this. Prior to the Cultural Revolution, ... I mean, Quiet Revolution, - basically the other French one but without the blood and gore, except in the case of the late Pierre Laporte, may he rest in peace, and the new springtime of Vatican II, Gatineau-Hull, as it was then known had 214 priests or 1 for every 530 souls. They have no vocations and those who have recently shown any interest were far too Catholic and sent away.

Well, Durocher is up to it again. Since reporting on his Synod escapades on Sing and Walk which is more aptly titled Sit Down and Shut-up, he's now been featured by Toronto's own Catholic Register with his wisdom espousing a greater role for women in the Church.

Maybe if Paul showed a little masculinity and challenged the men of Gatineau to stand up for the faith and Our Lord Jesus Christ, he wouldn't have such a problem. What is it that these "men" don't get, the feminised Church is what sent the men away?

Ah, but they do get it.

They get it good.

http://www.catholicregister.org/item/21804-the-female-voice-needs-to-be-heard-durocher

If Vox is a "so-called Catholic blogger" then Rosica is a "so-called Catholic priest"

One of these Toms is not like the other.

According to the wise words of Father Thomas J. Rosica, this is a "so-called Catholic blog." 

Well. based on my experience, I think Father Thomas J. Rosica, CSB is a "so-called Catholic priest."

He has the temerity to state that the signing of the letter of the thirteen cardinals which included Toronto's Cardinal Thomas Collins of the Archdiocese was a "faux pas." For whom Tom? 

Sebastian Gomes, an employee at Salt + Light, called the Cardinal's actions, "lettergate." 

Who the heck is Gomes and what gives him the right to comment on Catholic doctrine and to make a flippant remark about the Cardinal?

As for Archbishop Durocher, .... pfft.



http://bcc.rcav.org/canadian/5770-we-wait-for-the-pope-to-speak-archbishop-durocher

VATICAN THUGS BAR CATHOLIC PRIEST WITH CREDENTIALS FROM SYNOD YET ALLOWS HOMOSEXUAL LOBBYIST - THE PRIEST IS NOW IDENTIFIED

BREAKING!

Late last week we had reports from Michael Voris that a priest who challenged Gatineau Archbishop Durocher, had his press credential revoked. The next day, it was reported that a homosexual lobbyist who was not a journalist, was given credentials.

LifeSiteNews now reports on the identity of the priest barred by the Vatican and that a second "orthodox" priest also had his credentials removed.

What scondrels these men in the Vatican are in the manipulation of this Synod. Do they really think we're this stupid?

How many times did Pope Francis use the word "dialogue" on his trip to American? 

Dialogue for everyone except Catholic, right Holy Father? 

I wonder which dog-collared lap-dog assistant to Lombardi did the dirty work.

Hmmm.... I wonder.

Vatican revokes Catholic priest’s press credentials after he challenged archbishop

 Catholic , Paul-Andre Durocher , Synod On The Family , Vatican

URGENT: Sign the pledge to pray for the Synod fathers and the outcome of the Synod on the Family here. 

ROME, October 12, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) – Amid continuing concern about the Vatican press office’s “manipulation” of the family synod’s message, a priest who has been covering Vatican news for over 15 years had his credentials revoked last week, and was told to leave the premises “immediately.” The revocation came after he had challenged an archbishop following the October 6 press conference over comments claiming that allowing Communion for the divorced and remarried is up for debate.

Archbishop Paul-Andre Durocher made the comments in response to a reporter’s question about whether the matter pertained to Church discipline – which could potentially change – or doctrine, which is fixed.

“To be quite honest, there might be differences of opinion on that,” Durocher said. “Let’s be honest. Is that a question of doctrine or is that a question of discipline? I think that’s probably going to be one of the questions that will be debated in the small groups.”

"If you want doctrine, go read Denzinger,” he added.

Father Nicholas Gregoris

As Archbishop Durocher walked back after the press briefing, Father Nicholas Gregoris approached him and questioned him on the remarks.

“I told him that I think it was very dangerous to say the Church can change her teaching on the divorced and Communion,” Father Gregoris told LifeSiteNews. In particular, the priest told Archbishop Durocher that “conciliarism is a heresy,” referring to the idea that Church councils can establish doctrine independently of the pope.

Father Gregoris noted that he was “agitated” by the archbishop’s remarks, but argued that “speaking passionately” is not a crime.

Read the rest at https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-vatican-revokes-catholic-priests-press-credentials-after-he-challe

Now Durocher wants women deacons? You're having a busy day on Vox, Bish!

Well, we can see that our Canadian Bishops are taking a nice leading role at the Synod. It wasn't enough that this one got in a dust-up over dogma (one post below), now he wants Deaconesses!

I thought this was a Synod on the Family.

Let's see, no dogma, now he wants to exalt women where they cannot be. 

Hmmm, what else does this Bishop dissent on or seek change in.


What's that about smoke and fire?

Here are his links to his blog Sing and Walk. Here is his BookFace and you can Tweet him here.

Bishop, you're a disgrace to the Church and a fool. You are a scandal and an affront to the Faith. 

Here’s his blog, Sing and Walk. Here’s his facebook page and you can Tweet him too.

You change your blog name to SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN!

What a joke you are; what an utter embarrassment. 

O LORD JESUS CHRIST, SON OF THE LIVING GOD, GRANT US PEACE IN YOUR MERCY, WE BESEECH YOU TO DELIVER US FROM THESE UNFAITHFUL AND TREACHEROUS MEN DISGUISED AS SHEPHERDS; 

IN YOUR MERCY LORD, HERE OUR PRAYER!

By Carol Glatz Catholic News Service

VATICAN CITY (CNS) — Canadian Archbishop Paul-Andre Durocher of Gatineau, Quebec, said the synod should reflect on the possibility of allowing for female deacons as it seeks ways to open up more opportunities for women in church life.

(...)

Discussing a number of proposals he offered the synod fathers to think about, he said, “I think we should really start looking seriously at the possibility of ordaining women deacons because the diaconate in the church’s tradition has been defined as not being ordered toward priesthood but toward ministry.”

Read the rest of the bile at http://cnstopstories.com/2015/10/06/synod-should-reflect-on-possibly-allowing-female-deacons-says-archbishop/

Paul-André Durocher, Archbishop of Gatineau! Canada's Catholics demand you uphold the Catholic Faith!

On just the second day of the Synod on the Family, or against it if you will, we have this Canadian bishop, and former President of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops, Paul-André Durocher Archbishop of Gatineau, stating, "If you want dogma, go and read Denzinger!"  (https://archive.org/details/TheSourcesOfCatholicDogma). It seems that Durocher hasn't.

Here’s his blog, Sing and Walk. Here’s his facebook page and you can Tweet him too.

Michael Voris reports:

There were a few fireworks at the very end of today's press briefing that took place after the morning sessions. It's clear what's going on here is that there are an awful lot of bishops sitting in the Synod who are not really expressing theological thoughts about some of these issues. Obviously some of them are, but some of them are getting their theology mixed up. And in one particular episode right at the very end of the press conference, one last question came up from the press gallery, and on stage was the archbishop of Gatineau, Quebec, Paul-André Durocher, who was asked, "What about this question of the discipline versus the doctrine of administering Holy Communion to divorced and civilly remarried Catholics? Is it safe to say that this issue is still under debate? And if so, what does that say about the question of the dogma and the discipline?"And he gave an answer that stunned a number of us inside the press room. He said, 'If you want dogma, go read Denzinger. The Synod will be deciding and talking about whether this is a discipline or it's a dogma."That caused one priest who was sitting very, very close to us to sort of go into a rage. He actually confronted the archbishop on the way out of the door and said, "All you bishops, everything you're doing here, is this conciliarism, which is destroying the Church! You are confusing the faithful. You don't know the Faith."There was a very, very strong reaction; you could see the division between faithful Catholic journalists and the more liberal crowd reporting — for America Magazine and National Catholic Distorter (I mean Reporter) and all this. There is quite the division here. It's really funny because every day they stand up and tell us there's no division. And then they stand up and say something divisive, and the whole thing falls apart again. This is very interesting, the way this is all playing out.But hold on! This is only day two. Day two of 21! And I am shocked. I cannot believe a bishop said, "Oh well, you want dogma, go to Denzinger. We'll decide whether doing the discipline differently affects dogma."

Canadian Bishops and Durocher -- full of gas

In a move reminiscent of former Winnipeg Archbishop Weisgerber's plastic water-bottle sermon-from-the-mount, Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishop's President Paul-Andre Durocher has now decided that the greatest ill in Canada is its potential of becoming a global energy "super-power." 

Retired Archbishop of Winnipeg, Weisgerber

Quoted on Radio VM, Durocher states that while it is not a "position" it is a "working tool and reflection on issues of social justice. It is made for the education of adult faith on the social doctrine of the Church."

Originating as a Jesuit document, its English release is set for this week in Toronto. It is good to know that the Sisters of Sainte-Anne de Lachine, the Sisters of IBVM (Loreto in Toronto), the Sisters of Mercy of Newfoundland and Sisters Foundation St. Joseph of the Diocese of London all support the document. Considering that each of these former Orders are on their literal death beds, what they think is hardly relevant to the Church.

CCCB President, Bishop Durocher

This is nothing more than Marxist drivel coming out of our Bishops Conference and our debauched and corrupted religious orders, particularly the Jesuits. They would prefer perhaps that North America should continue to buy its energy needs from the same people chopping. What can we expect, when the Bishop of Rome, himself a Jesuit, makes an absurd statement that the greatest problem facing the world today is "youth unemployment."

Where did these clericalists learn their economics; or do we already know?

Canada continues to be have no law protecting children at any stage from abortion. Catholics contracept at the same rate as everyone else, Mass attendance is in decline, our schools are threatened by the homosexualists and our Catholic brothers and sisters are being slaughtered. Yet, the greatest economic development is the concern of our bishops? Development that will lead to security and prosperity for our country and our native peoples in a sustainable manner? 

What poppycock! 

What drivel!

They are an affront to the Christ and His Church and to we the Catholic people.


PostScript: for more on Mario Bard, the author of the Radio VM report, read this little ditty on "sacred meals."

Thanks to New Catholic for the tip.