Tuesday, 13 October 2015

Abbot Jeremias Schröder - the heresy of Church devolution and the blessing of sodominical relationships

There is more heretical talk coming out of Rome today at the Synod on the Family, from Germany, no less. During today's English-language briefing, Father Federico Lombardi, S.J., was joined on the dais by a German Benedictine, Abbot Jeremias Schröder. 

We know as Catholics that two of the four marks of the true Church of Christ on earth, along with Holy and Apostolic, is that She is One and She is Universal, from the Greek, katholikó from where we have the word, catholic. This is elementary, every child is, or was, taught this. Every person coming into the Church through RCIA is, or should be, taught this. The Church being Universal and One means that She is the same everywhere in the world. While there may be different liturgical rites and some legitimate room for inculturation in terms of devotions and feasts and approved liturgical permissions, the doctrine of faith is one because the Church is One!

The Catholic Church cannot have different doctrinal or pastoral practices or She ceases to be Catholic! Bishops' Conferences have no authority nor can authority be "devolved" to them. This is heretical. A Catholic is Catholic in union with their Bishop and he with the Pope. A "conference" is not and cannot be the same thing. 

Why is it necessary to repeat this? Because as Father Paul Nicholson states today, "a properly catechized first Communion boy may actually know more doctrine than some shepherds today." I urge you to visit there to read his thoughts on what follows here and to read the link there back to the words of our beloved, then Cardinal Ratzinger's letter on Communion.

At the briefing today and in front of Federico Lombardi, S.J., the Abbot stated as recorded by Vatican Insider:

“Many of the speeches in the general discussions mentioned the possibility of dealing with questions on the basis of a given cultural context. I would say there were about twenty or so speeches and only two or three were against, claiming that for the sake of the Church’s unity handing over powers would have fatal consequences. I think that in this stage of the discussions, the idea is mostly shared. I, for example am German and it seems to me that the remarried divorces issue is very strongly and widely felt in Germany and much less so elsewhere. This is an area where there could be space for original pastoral ideas, also as far as the understanding of homosexuality goes, an issue that really varies from culture to culture. National Episcopal Conferences could be allowed to search for pastoral solutions that are in tune with their specific cultural context.”  

Why was this man not rebuked? What is this preoccupation with sodomy in the minds of these men? Are they homosexuals themselves or if not, "out" are they suffering from some kind of latent tendencies that causes them to be so consumed with the insertion of the penis into the anus of another man, and worse, if there could be?

Let me print this again so you get what this Abbot and others want the Holy Catholic Church to accept as a valid "lifestyle" with the Catholic Church:

Caution, descriptive language!

This is what our Churchmen want you to accept as normal and "gifts" to offer to the Church. The insertion of the penis into the anus of another man to be used as a masturbatory force. Mutual masturbation. Oral sodomy  the insertion of the penis into the man's mouth often through the use of "poppers" amyl nitrate contained in room deodorizers to soften and open the muscles of the anus or throat. The swallowing of the semen of another man. Fisting. Analingus (yes, it is what you think it is - the licking of another man's anus. Slurp ramps, glory holes, felsching. The expulsion of excrement and its consumption is common during these actions. Well, what do you think happens? It is not about the colour of the towels and it doesn't matter how "nice they are!"

Now, have you let that settle in a little? Sorry for the explicitness but we need to be clear on what these rotten evil shepherds want to sanction.

Let us read this interview with the Abbot from Augsburger Allgemeine.

Viele Fragen, um die es geht, sollte man regional entscheiden dürfen. Wir brauchen nicht für jedes Problem eine einheitliche, gesamtkirchliche Lösung, die in Rom erarbeitet wurde. Die Kirche muss sich vielleicht darauf verständigen, dass in unterschiedlichen Weltregionen und Kulturkreisen ein jeweils anderer Umgang mit dem komplexen Thema Familie ermöglicht wird. Ein Ordensmitglied aus dem Nahen Osten sagte mir jüngst: Eine Würdigung gleichgeschlechtlicher Lebensformen durch die Kirche wäre, rein hypothetisch, möglicherweise in Europa denkbar. Im islamischen Kontext wäre es das aber keinesfalls....

One should be allowed to decide many questions about which it is on the regional level. We do not need for every problem a uniform, whole-church solution which was compiled in Rome. The church must maybe come to an agreement about the fact that in different world regions and societies another contact with the complicated subject Family is allowed. An order member from the Middle East said me recently: An acknowledgment of same-sexual life forms by the church would be conceivable, purely hypothetically, possibly in Europe. However, in the Islamic context it would on no account be this....

In dieser Frage hat mir Kardinal Rainer Maria Woelki die Augen geöffnet: Er hat darauf hingewiesen, welche Werte, etwa Treue, auch in gleichgeschlechtlichen Partnerschaften gelebt werden. Einen Segen für sie schließt das nicht aus, aber dann müsste die Kirche dafür vielleicht auch neue Formen finden. Ich fände es jedenfalls fatal, wenn eine Segnung gleichgeschlechtlicher Partnerschaften verwechselt würde mit dem Sakrament der Ehe von Mann und Frau, die auf die Zeugung von Leben hin gegründet ist.

In this question cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki has opened to me the eyes: He has pointed to the fact which values, possibly loyalty, are also lived in same-sexual partnerships. This does not exclude a blessing for them, but then the church would have to find for it maybe also new forms. I would find it, in any case, fatal if a blessing of same-sexual partnerships was mistaken for the sacrament of the marriage of man and woman who is founded on the fathering from life.

Loyalty has nothing to do with how they live? They will die younger and be sicker because of what they do and then they will go to Hell for all eternity!

Abbot does not think this blessing should be "mistaken for the sacrament of marriage." Is he stupid? Is he blackmailed? Is he a sodomite? How does he think it is going to be interpreted?

Will no one in authority hold these men, these heretics, these men spouting bile and filth against the teachings of Our Blessed Lord, accountable?

Is it truly up to us, the poor and abused laity?


Anonymous said...

You have come completely unhinged with this one, Vox. Wow.

Dorota said...

I fully support your direct language in regard to sodomy. All the practices you mentioned are supposed to be covered by the very "inclusive" term - love. Sodomites "love" orgasms brought about by many objects and living things. A few of them, very few, love one person of same sex, and can't imagine living without them, and without getting sexual pleasure from activities engaged in with them.

It is because of an ill-conceived love for those few that so many churchmen today are set on stripping humanity of our dignity, or is it because of the massive delusion prophesied by many? I vote for the latter. All the lukewarm humanists, who in the name of love treasure human error above the wisdom of God, are coming out and preaching down to the remnant of God-fearing humanity, the pope among them - humanists. How sad, how tragic.

TLM said...

THIS IS INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! yes, I would say these perverted dissidents are a hair away from being OUT AND PROUD!! Lord have mercy on me for saying such but what is one to think?? The biggest question is WHY WAS HE ALLOWED WITHOUT REBUKE TO SAY SUCH A THING???

Hop over to Fr.Z's blog. He has a valid point in saying that just maybe this 'letter to the Pope' by the 13,11, or however many Cardinals is a decoy. Something for the press to get wrapped up in, when what's really at stake is the 50/50 chance of the Pope kicking decision making about 'Doctrine' to local Bishops. We've heard inklings of this in the past, but now it's openly discussed. Fr. is just now wondering why Daneels is even at the Synod!!! (I think we wondered about this a while ago) This just gets worse and worse.

ceckiz said...

Crux sacra sit mihi lux / Non draco sit mihi dux: Vade retro satana / Numquam suade mihi vana: Sunt mala quae libas / Ipse venena bibas.

Vox Cantoris said...


On which point?

Eskimo said...

My God! My God!
A seriously ill society by decay of addiction that only Divine intervention could destroy.
Yes, "vade retro satana".
We come to the point of being humiliated by mentioning the word "gay" in reprehensible tone.
I do not see anything on the horizon for the better.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

DJR said...

Here is a quote taken from the Vatican Radio website:

"Abbot Schröder remarked that he wished there were more women religious present. He explained that at a meeting of male Superior Generals' there was a suggestion that they should give half of their ten allocated seats to women religious."



Maudie N Mandeville said...

What is this preoccupation with sodomy in the minds of these men?

An open letter to Pope Francis
By Randy Engel
On a Papal Commission of Inquiry into Homosexuality, Pederasty and La Lobby Gay in The Catholic Church

9 November 2013

In an interview titled "Careerism and vanity: Sins of the Church," Tornielli's last question to you was: Can you tell us how the Roman Curia is perceived from the outside?

And you, Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio, replied:
"Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus fomenting coprophagia: ....."

Now the term "coprophilia" which you used spontaneously in the interview refers to a sexual perversion (fetish) by which a person derives sexual excitement from the presence of feces. The term "coprophagia" pertains to the actual act of eating excrement. Both paraphilias are commonly associated with homosexual behavior and are a regular feature of homosexual pornography.

That a bishop should so glibly refer to such disgusting and perverted practices in a public interview clearly indicates to me that you are not unschooled in the ways and dangers of sexual perversion, and hence, have no real need for me to instruct you on the perversity of homosexual behaviors, nor on the grave necessity of combating the Homosexual Collective and other forces of organized perversion.

And so it is with great sorrow that I bring this Open Letter to a close.

Barona said...

What is happening is the result of decades long infiltration by militant homosexuals into seminaries. From there, homo-rectors, bishops promote their own. What we are seeing in Germany (for example)is a decades long, perhaps even a century long gradual growth of unnaturual vice. Late 19th century Germany had a decadent and scandal riddled aristocracy that indulged in perverted sexual acts. These deviants thrived during the Weimar Republic, joined the SA in the 30s. When shut down, the most "natural" job for a sodomite would be the SS or the Gestapo. Absolute power, and the ability to indulge is sadism with impunity. These homo bishops in Germany and Judas priests are merely the bastard offspring of the Pink Swastika.

Cathy said...

News update! The Synod just announced a minor change to the Creed. The phrase you reference above will be replaced, beginning next Sunday, with "One Homo Catholic and Apostolic Church."

Meanwhile, the Synod Fathers will work on the more complex task of fitting the word "inclusive" into the Consecration formula. Then the Agenda moves on to replacing the words "Our Father" with "Earth Mother."

Progress, folks, progress!

Anonymous said...

The truth makes one "unhinged"?

Anonymous said...

Consider the three children of Fatima ,shepherds tending their sheep,it was to them God sent the Virgin Mary and not to three children in catechism class ,so his argument is nonsense .The catholic laity in Germany must donate a percentage of their income to the Church ,perhaps he feels they are entitled to receive something for their money regardless of their lifestyle ,sounds like Christ is been sold all over again ,and for a lot more then thirty pieces of silver. http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/issues/december-12th-2014/why-the-german-church-is-rich-and-arrogant/

Anonymous said...

That Abbot Jeremias Schröder is probably gay himself, and his heretical views should be challenged and he should also be defrocked, but unfortunately there seems to be no one in the Church with enough power to do that, and those who can are on his side.

We live in very very difficult times.

May God have mercy on us all!

Damask Rose said...

The Church is cleaning itself. They're coming out, whether more gay priests come out and if they get bolder in the parishes ie blessing gays at Mass, remains to be seen. It could get worse.

Ask yourself how much more the Court of Heaven or the Angels can tolerate this clandestine filth behind the Sacraments the Church gives to its people.

What''s terrifying is how ready and up for a more sexually filthy Church the laity are. This Ambrosio woman from 'Salt and Light' being an example. Notice that she calls conservatives, Cardinal Burke and others, "ilk".

The 'wheat and chaff' are being sifted, think of the Luke-warm Mass-going Catholics that don't practice their faith properly, and are welcoming this. It's thousands of people. It's terrifying because the 'sifting' is on biblical proportions. It is the same as what St Leonard of Port Maurice said in his treatise 'On the little number of those who are saved.' Our Lady of Fatima is ignored.

TLM said...

The FILTH AND EVIL that Our Dear Lord is allowing us to witness is sometimes beyond comprehension. But, I guess He is showing us what we are really up against and that He will eventually concur and throw into the depths of Hell GLORIOUSLY. How long Oh Lord?????!!!!!

DJR said...

Blogger Damask Rose said... The 'wheat and chaff' are being sifted, think of the Luke-warm Mass-going Catholics that don't practice their faith properly, and are welcoming this. It's thousands of people. It's terrifying because the 'sifting' is on biblical proportions.

And the number of those with their heads screwed on correctly is indeed small. Frightening. God help us.

susan said...

Anon 3:40 said: "That Abbot Jeremias Schröder is probably gay himself..."

Gee.....YA THINK???