Archbishop Paul Gallagher admits that the ecumenical movement is not about Christ!

Paul Gallagher is the Secretary for Relations with States at the Vatican's Secretariat of State. 

He is quoted as saying:

“Some have tended to see ecumenical endeavour as a question of church, or as an internal Christian affair in which our unity will be good for the growth or even survival of Christ’s church. Given all we face today, given the urgency and precariousness of our situation I would argue rather that ecumenical engagement is a moral imperative for all of us who are baptised in the name of the Blessed Trinity. We must proceed together as the one Body of Christ, not because it will be nice or cosy to do so but because we have to in response to the pressing needs of humanity.”

More false oecumenism for these modernists. If these Church leaders continue to refuse to make it clear to protestants that the goal must be their acceptance of the One, True, Church and the Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Eucharist and the priesthood, then there can be no oecumenism. 

Barona at Witness has solid commentary.

Keep your wits about you, friend. It's going to get rough.

Next, the ecumenical "Mass" and the denial of Transubstantiation.

Bishop Crosby of Hamilton "commemorates" the Reformation! His Cathedral is to Christ the King!

One of these is Bishop Doug, the Catholic Bishop of Hamilton

In a Diocese with one of the most beautiful cathedrals in Canada outside of Quebec built in the 1930 and named after Christ the King, which commemorated the then recent institution of the Social Kingship of Christ the King by Pius XI on the protestant "Reformation Sunday," Bishop Douglas Crosby, OMI of Hamilton joins in celebration with Lutherans, the heretical poisonous action of that lecherous malefactor.

Clearly following the lead of Bergoglio of Rome, the one thing Crosby didn't do is erect a chocolate statue of the heretical Augustinian.

Celebrating and commemorating the loss of nation and peoples from the Church, the destruction of monasteries, the murder of hundreds of thousands of faithful Catholics, the spread of heresy, the creation of an environment of philosophical and theological error that persists to this day and which lead to the French Revolution, Freemasonry, Communism and Illuminism and the complete loss of faith of Germany and the rest of Europe. Yes, let us commemorate and celebrate that.

The article states, "the Spirit of God is calling us in our time to a renewed sense of common mission, prayer and service." What blasphemy. The Holy Spirit would only call protestants back to the unity of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Fifty years of this wretched false ecumenism and all it has done is make Catholics, protestant.

How many more stories such as this will we be subjected to this weekend?

Perhaps Bishop Doug should read this!

LUTHER? NOT A REFORM BUT A REVOLUTION

by Gerhard L. Cardinal Müller

There is great confusion today when we talk about Luther, and it needs to be said clearly that from the point of view of dogmatic theology, from the point of view of the doctrine of the Church, it wasn’t a reform at all but rather a revolution, that is, a total change of the foundations of the Catholic Faith.

It is not realistic to argue that [Luther’s] intention was only to fight against abuses of indulgences or the sins of the Renaissance Church. Abuses and evil actions have always existed in the Church, not only during the Renaissance, and they still exist today. We are the holy Church because of the God’s grace and the Sacraments, but all the men of the Church are sinners, they all need forgiveness, contrition, and repentance.

This distinction is very important. And in the book written by Luther in 1520, “De captivitate Babylonica ecclesiae,” it is absolutely clear that Luther has left behind all of the principles of the Catholic Faith, Sacred Scripture, the Apostolic Tradition, the magisterium of the Pope and the Councils, and of the episcopate. In this sense, he upended the concept of the homogeneous development of Christian doctrine as explained in the Middle Ages, even denying that a sacrament is an efficacious sign of the grace contained therein. He replaced this objective efficacy of the sacraments with a subjective faith. Here, Luther abolished five sacraments, and he also denied the Eucharist: the sacrificial character of the sacrament of the Eucharist, and the real conversion of the substance of bread and wine into the substance of the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Furthermore, he called the sacrament of episcopal ordination, the sacrament of Orders, an invention of the Pope — whom he called the Antichrist — and not part of the Church of Jesus Christ. Instead, we say that the sacramental hierarchy, in communion with the successor of Peter, is an essential element of the Catholic Church, and not only a principle of a human organization.

That is why we cannot accept Luther’s reform being called a reform of the Church in a Catholic sense. Catholic reform is a renewal of faith lived in grace, in the renewal of customs, of ethics, a spiritual and moral renewal of Christians; not a new foundation, not a new Church.

It is therefore unacceptable to assert that Luther’s reform “was an event of the Holy Spirit.” On the contrary, it was against the Holy Spirit. Because the Holy Spirit helps the Church to maintain her continuity through the Church’s magisterium, above all in the service of the Petrine ministry: on Peter has Jesus founded His Church (Mt 16:18), which is “the Church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15). The Holy Spirit does not contradict Himself.

We hear so many voices speaking too enthusiastically about Luther, not knowing exactly his theology, his polemics and the disastrous effect of this movement which destroyed the unity of millions of Christians with the Catholic Church. We cannot evaluate positively his good will, the lucid explanation of the shared mysteries of faith but not his statements against the Catholic Faith, especially with regard to the sacraments and hierarchical-apostolic structure of the Church. 

Nor is it correct to assert that Luther initially had good intentions, meaning by this that it was the rigid attitude of the Church that pushed him down the wrong road. This is not true: Luther was intent on fighting against the selling of indulgences, but the goal was not indulgences as such, but as an element of the Sacrament of Penance.

Nor is it true that the Church refused to dialogue: Luther first had a dispute with John Eck; then the Pope sent Cardinal Gaetano as a liaison to talk to him. We can discuss the methods, but when it comes to the substance of the doctrine, it must be stated that the authority of the Church did not make mistakes. Otherwise, one must argue that, for a thousand years, the Church has taught errors regarding the faith, when we know — and this is an essential element of doctrine — that the Church can not err in the transmission of salvation in the sacraments.

One should not confuse personal mistakes and the sins of people in the Church with errors in doctrine and the sacraments. Those who do this believe that the Church is only an organization comprised of men and deny the principle that Jesus himself founded His Church and protects her in the transmission of the faith and grace in the sacraments through the Holy Spirit. His Church is not a merely human organization: it is the body of Christ, where the infallibility of the Council and the Pope exists in precisely described ways. All of the councils speak of the infallibility of the Magisterium, in setting forth the Catholic faith. Amid today’s confusion, in many people this reality has been overturned: they believe the Pope is infallible when he speaks privately, but then when the Popes throughout history have set forth the Catholic faith, they say it is fallible.

Of course, 500 years have passed. It’s no longer the time for polemics but for seeking reconciliation: but not at the expense of truth. One should not create confusion. While on the one hand, we must be able to grasp the effectiveness of the Holy Spirit in these other non-Catholic Christians who have good will, and who have not personally committed this sin of separation from the Church, on the other we cannot change history, and what happened 500 years ago. It’s one thing to want to have good relations with non-Catholic Christians today, in order to bring us closer to a full communion with the Catholic hierarchy and with the acceptance of the Apostolic Tradition according to Catholic doctrine. It’s quite another thing to misunderstand or falsify what happened 500 years ago and the disastrous effect it had. An effect contrary to the will of God: “… that they may all be one; even as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that thou has sent me” (Jn 17:21).

Bergoglio denounces true ecumenism - praises the heretic Luther! Will he be the next canonised?

Fairies invade Vatican!

Bergoglio has, with his own words, condemned himself and set himself against his predecessors. 

"It is not right to convince someone of your faith," says this Bergoglio.

"Go therefore and teach all nations," said Jesus Christ.

Who do you choose?

Are you a Christian or a Papolater?

In an address yesterday, the 99th anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima, Bergoglio stated that proselytism is "venom" and a "threat to Christian unity."

How illogical can he be? He must repent of this error.

What a betrayer of Our Lord Jesus Christ and His cry, "that they all be one." One in Him! One in His Church. Lutherans as individuals must come home, along with Anglicans, Presbyterians, Evangelicals, Eastern Orthodox. How can they come home when Popes preach to them to stay where they are? Why would the Orthodox desire union with Rome when it is overseen by a cabal of malefactors and heretics!

It is only through proselytism, with clarity and charity, that we will achieve "Christian unity." 

Martin Luther has led millions of souls to Hell. There is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church. Should God choose to save those who are not Catholic is up to Him and beyond our knowledge of certainly. What we do know is that it is only by being baptised and in the bosom of the Catholic Church, can we be saved. Vatican II did not change this, notwithstanding its ambiguity and pastoral overtures.

This Bergoglio would rather see Lutherans continue on their path of error following a heretic priest in his blasphemy than come home to the One True Church.

The time has long since passed for a denouncement of this Pope.

What a disgusting and sickening display, a statue of Martin Luther together with the Bishop of Rome. A heretic. A blasphemer. A fornicator who led millions of souls in Hell.

As Brian wonders in the combox, will he dare to lift the excommunication of Luther?

God help us all.

(ANSA) - Vatican City, October 13 - Pope Francis told a group of mostly Lutheran pilgrims on Thursday that proselytism was a potential threat to Christian unity.

"The last thing you must do is 'to say, to convince'. It's not right to convince someone of your faith," he said.

"Proselytism is the strongest venom against the path of ecumenism".

The pope was speaking to around 1,000 pilgrims in the Vatican - most of them German Lutherans - who are in Rome as part of ecumenical preparations for the 500th anniversary of the beginning of the Lutheran reformation.

"The Apostle Paul tells us that, by virtue of our baptism, we all form the one Body of Christ," the pope said.

"The different members, in fact, are one body. This is why we belong to each other and when one suffers, all suffer, when one rejoices, all rejoice. Let us continue with confidence on our ecumenical journey, because we know that, beyond the many open questions that still separate us, we are already united.

What unites us is much more than what divides us".

Bergoglio blesses people with the Archlayman of Canterbury

Mr. Justin Welby is no more a priest or bishop than I. Anglican orders are "null and void." This has been the case centuries and declared by Leo XIII. He is a fraud, the Archlayman of Canterbury. He can bless his children or his dog, maybe, but that is it. 

For Jorge Bergoglio, or any pope including Benedict XVI, to appear in "clerics" with these men is to perpetuate a fraud. A fraud of lies, murder, adultery and deceit on which that sect was founded. 

More relevantly, it is an insult to those believing Anglicans who have achieved union with the Church through the Ordinariate.

Tens of thousands of faithful Catholics went to their glorious martyrdoms to remain faithful to Christ and His Church. Only to see from heaven the Vicar of Christ cavorting with fraudulent bishops and thieves possessing the churches where those saints once worshipped.

Lund is coming.

These popes are a cause of scandal.

http://www.catholicregister.org/faith/item/23259-pope-anglican-archbishop-call-for-unity-in-mission-service

Bergoglio invents a new sin - the sin against "ecumenism"

Ah, another papal trip, another homily, another aeroplane interview. It's all becoming so boring.

It is not necessary to write much about what follows. You know the difference between true and false ecumenism. 

For those who do not, a quick refresher, it really is quite simple.

True ecumenism is to preach that all Christians ecclesial communities have a duty to return to full and complete and visible unity in the Catholic Church outside of which there is no salvation. 

What we have primarily experienced since the Second Vatican Council is a false ecumenism, that we can dialogue and leave people where they are because God just loves them there, anyway. Even though, "there" is out of union with the Church and in heresy or schism.

We don't need to pick a fight on an individual basis with our Orthodox brothers and sisters. Frankly, given the behaviour of Rome and the those in the west who undermine the Church's faith, liturgy and morality, what possible reason would the Orthodox have for wanting to discuss unity.

To equate that one can "sin" against "ecumenism" is an utter falacy. It is repugnant to think that a Pope could invent a sin against an action or a theory or a movement. One sins against God, not an idea.

“Be open, be a friend. ‘But I must do everything to convert them!’ There’s a great sin against ecumenism: proselytism, they’re “our brothers and sisters.”

Well, you can dialogue and encounter all you want but it's not going to get you anywhere if your'e afraid to proclaim the truth.

Oh wait, it will get you somewhere.

Martin Luther was an evil devil; any Catholic Prelate that says otherwise is a liar.

The title says my thought for the day.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01/should-any-catholic-praise-luther-cross.html

And just to annoy my special friend; here is Luther again, in Hell.

Egbert II van Heemskerck d. 1710

Will you join Francis in praising Martin Luther?

Luther In Hell, Egbert van Heemskerck, d. 1710

These pathetic Romans from Bergoglio on down can honour Luther all they want.

I won't.

Who's next, Calvin? How about Henry VIII? Maybe the wretched murderer Elizabeth I or Mahomet? Shall we honour them too along with David Bowie?

Luther was an antichrist and he remains so, notwithstanding whatever corruption existed in Rome - none of which justified his actions which has lead to the loss of tens, nay - hundreds of millions of souls. 

They are simply, wrong.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/01/important-lutheran-world-federation.html

Important - Lutheran World Federation, Pontifical Council for Christian Unity launch "Common Prayer" service extolling Martin Luther and the Reformation

By their fruits...

Last year saw unprecedented expressions of "openness" on the part of some Vatican officials (including the Pope) and official Catholic structures towards Lutheranism.
First there was the support expressed by a Vatican spokesman for the renaming of a square in the central part of Rome after Martin Luther, support that was never disowned by any higher ecclesiastical authority in Rome. Adventists and Lutherans had been trying since 2009 to get a square in Rome named for Luther, but the effort garnered success -- and Vatican support -- only last year.

What does Thomas J. Rosica, CSB not get about Islam?

In a blog post, Father Thomas J. Rosica has written that a Muslim chant which shall not disgrace this blog does not mean what we think it means. You can read it there.

Has he ever read the book that Muslims follow? A book dictated by a desert illiterate who was nothing more than a wretched and blood-thirsty murderer, warlord, thief, pervert and paedophile. 

Given the statement of St. Thomas Aquinas or the one by Thomas Rosica, whom do you think has a greater understanding? Is Tom Rosica contradicting Aquinas?

Let's take a look at Surah 8:39

And fight them until there is not fitnah (sedition, civil strife) and until the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease, then indeed, Allah is Seeing what they do.  

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the overwhelming majority of terrorists are Muslims. If a Muslim is a good person it is not because of their religion, it is in spite of it. It is because of Natural Law, something which our churchmen discount and deride. Muslims, objectively speaking, will spend eternity in Hell unless the merciful God chooses to save them through the Catholic Church because of their invincible ignorance and a good life based upon Natural Law. However, we cannot know this for certainty. There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.

What does Tom Rosica think of St. Nicholas Tavelec and Companions martyrdom? What would Tom Rosica say to St. Perfectus and the Martyrs of Cordoba? Would he show any respect towards St. Antonio Primaldo and the Martyrs of Otranto?

Those three alone prove two things:

1. The history of Islam is one of murder and mayhem upon Christians. 
2. Tom Rosica has his head in the sand or up somewhere else and doesn't know what he is speaking about. 
3. The Pope and the rest of the hierarchy who refuse to call out Muslims for the murderers they were and are have the blood of those in Paris and Beirut on their hands every bit as much as the perpetrators themselves.

If the above is not enough for Tom Rosica, then maybe Dr. Taylor Marshall is someone whom he should consult. Then again, we can consult the Saints. Even Phil Lawler has seen through this fallacy.

Do we as Catholics desire the salvation of Muslims? We surely must not. We do not speak to them, in all this talk of mercy, of Jesus Christ and Him Crucified.

Fundamentally, this contemporary Catholic praxis is actually a disdain and a hatred for Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and Protestants and so on. This ecumaniacal religious dialogue is not based on love and mercy. If it were, the Church would care enough about the souls of these to preach to them that they must come to Christ.

It is also self-hatred because it is religious indifferentism, a heresy.

Logically, there can be no other conclusion. 

Nuns, heretics and slipping on banana peels

The final report on the Nuns on the Bus is out and is a sham, a whitewash. It was not intended to be when it began but in this new environment what can one expect?

At the end of the day, what does it really matter, except for the souls of course of those religious sister and nuns who tore off their habits, engaged in social justice work to the exclusion of all else, eco-spirituality, pro-abortion advocacy, heresy, radical feminism and so much more. 

The reality is, in a decade, they'll all be gone, dead or suffering from dementia and the problem will have solved itself. May God be merciful to them.

Those left in faithful religious orders will pick up the pieces and carry on to rebuild.

Meanwhile ...

Today, we have more information that these same ecumaniacal that whitewashed the report on the nuns are actually going to celebrate the Lutheran revolution of death and destruction - celebrate a liar, a filthy blasphemer, an adulterer, a heretic, a filthy murderer of souls. While Father Luther may had some initial justifiable concerns about the corruption that existed, his schism and heresy has lead to the fall of many souls into Hell. For the Church to even consider any celebration of what this man said, did, wrote and founded is a scandal.

Meanwhile, the real Catholics associated with Econe remain in limbo and the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate suffer persecution; it seems that two plus two indeed equals five.  

Watch out for those banana peels.

The False Ecumenism of Salt + Light and the CCCB

On the evening of Sunday, November 10, an ecumenical service was held in Toronto between Roman Catholics and Anglicans at St. James Anglican Cathedral. The service was attended by Thomas Cardinal Collins and the "Right Reverend Bishop" Linda Nicholls who preached a sermon. It was tirelessly promoted by Father Tom Rosica and Salt + Light. This is part of the Anglican/Roman Catholic Dialogue promoted by the CCCB.

To what ends? Visible unity? It is not possible!

Let's get something straight.

Linda Nicholls can call herself a "Right Reverend Bishop" but she is nothing more than a lay woman masquerading as a bishop. Women cannot receive Holy Orders of priest or bishop, there is a little problem of "matter." Anglicans possess no Holy Orders at all and have no apostolic succession because they do not have the "intent" to do or to believe what the Church believes and this was definitively taught by Pope Leo XIII, long forgotten in the modernist era of canonsiations of Vatican II papacies, (though don't ever expect one for hte martyred John Paul I or for ever for Benedict XVI) There are some within the broader Anglican Communion who do possess valid orders through the Old Catholic line or Orthodox. 

This service perpetuates the syncreticism of the false ecumenism of the distortion and hermeneutic of rupture by those who still flog the dead and diabolical "spirit of Vatican II."

Father Tom Rosica has long been an ecumenist and a promoter of this charade as is clear from this interview whist he was still a Deacon, he even called for Holy Communion for everyone, defying even the Bishop of London! He perpetuates this lie as do the Canadian Bishops with this false ecumenical outreach. 

If our bishops appear in the same sanctuary as the "Right Reverend Bishop" Linda Nicholls do they believe that she is actually a bishop?

If our bishops work towards this so-called "ecumenism" do they believe that women can be ordained to the priesthood or that the existing Anglican orders generally speaking, are valid?


Do our bishops ever say with clarity and charity, "you must come home to the Roman Catholic Church for your own salvation and you must stop pretending that you are a bishop or priest as it will lead to your condemnation?

Barona at Toronto Catholic Witness dealt with this head-on earlier this week.

He has also features another post of a comment left there. It seems from this commentator, and my own sources, that it was sparsely attended and mostly grey-haired.  

The most shocking part in all of this is the absolute snubbing and insulting of the actual fruit of true ecumenism, thanks to the Pope of Christian unity, Benedict XVI and Anglicanorum Coetibus. The two Ordinariate quasi-parishes in the Toronto area, Good Shepherd in Oshawa and St. Thomas More in Toronto were not invited and were it seems, mocked afterwards. 

True ecumenism is speaking the truth and calling the lost sheep back home, not letting them perpetuate in their schism and heresy. This goes for all in the Church, no exceptions. To do otherwise is to not do the will of Christ.

Ecumaniacs

A picture speaks a thousand words.

Cardinal Taurans

Then Archbishop, soon to be Cardinal Nichols

Cardinal O'Malley