Wednesday, 30 December 2015

Jorge Bergoglio "presumes" Jesus had to "beg forgiveness." Was the Holy Family "irregular" too?

The Feast of the Holy Family was long celebrated in the Coptic Church. Egypt, of course, was a Christian country from apostolic times long before it was overrun by the Mohammedans and tragically arabised, something that happened to my own ancestral land of Lebanon. Some day, the Lord and Our Lady and St. Joseph will free this suffering people in gratitude for the refuge they gave the Holy Family. 

A cult had been established in Quebec and a Confraternity established by Saint François de Laval, One could say that this feast is a contribution of Quebec and Canada to the universal calendar. In the Roman Church, it is a relatively new Feast from the 1920's and was appointed to the First Sunday after Epiphany whose Mass already contained the Gospel of the Child Jesus in the Temple and the beautiful communion antiphon. The remaining Proper was changed and the historical Mass of the First Sunday after Epiphany is now celebrated on the next ferial day. 
The liturgical wreckers of the Novus Ordo changed the date to the Sunday within the Octave, thus we have Jesus as 12 before he is circumcised and named on the 8th day. Whatever! The liturgy is not intended to always be chronological, except; it is an "Octave" when liturgical time stops and a Feast is prolonged, but what did the liturgical wreckers care about these liturgical nuances. By the way, the feast of Mary, the Mother of God was/is celebrated in the traditional calendar but in September and is a commemoration of the declaration of Her as Theotokos - the God-bearer from where we get, Mother of God! There was no justification for changing the date or downplaying the Circumcision of the Lord. The silliness of these reformers is that the Gospel, remains the same - the circumcision!

Those wreckers can only be topped by Jorge Bergoglio's latest fantasy. I say "Bergoglio" because as I wrote previously, when he is in accord with tradition he is Pope Francis, when he breaks into one of his off the cuffs or insults or theological nuttiness, he is Jorge Bergoglio. 

Before considering what he said, let us consider this. 

Mary and Joseph knew exactly who their Son was. They knew he was God come into the world in the Flesh. Mary understood this from the very beginning and it was made clear to Joseph. There is much that we do not know that the angel told St. Joseph, we know he was told not to "be afraid." There was no doubt, much, much more.  

Consider this. How do we know what the Gospel of Luke tells us about the Child Jesus in the Temple? Luke was not there, he may not even have been born. We know because Mary told him. The only living witness of these events was the mother of Jesus. She told Luke what happened in his early life. She told Matthew, Mark and John and the other Apostles of the important events in their lives. She was the "eyewitness." 

We have no place to assume what is not there in Scripture. Even if we are Pope! Nowhere, in history or homilies of the great Saints have I ever read the ingenious theological conclusion of Jorge Bergoglio as in this missive launched in last Sunday's homily. 

I'm surprised he didn't follow the Rosica philosophy that along with Jesus begging forgiveness, the Holy Family was also, irregular. Here is an excerpt of the homily given at St. Peter's on the Feast of the Holy Family:

At the end of that pilgrimage, Jesus returned to Nazareth and was obedient to his parents (cf. Lk 2:51). This image also contains a beautiful teaching about our families. A pilgrimage does not end when we arrive at our destination, but when we return home and resume our everyday lives, putting into practice the spiritual fruits of our experience. We know what Jesus did on that occasion. Instead of returning home with his family, he stayed in Jerusalem, in the Temple, causing great distress to Mary and Joseph who were unable to find him. For this little “escapade”, Jesus probably had to beg forgiveness of his parents. The Gospel doesn’t say this, but I believe that we can presume it. Mary’s question, moreover, contains a certain reproach, revealing the concern and anguish which she and Joseph felt. Returning home, Jesus surely remained close to them, as a sign of his complete affection and obedience. Moments like these become part of the pilgrimage of each family; the Lord transforms the moments into opportunities to grow, to ask for and to receive forgiveness, to show love and obedience.
So Jorge says that being "about his Father's business" was an "escapade. I guess he was galavanting around Jerusalem, too. Such a disobedient, uncaring child to do such a thing. If the Pope believes that Jesus needed to "beg forgiveness" then that means that he must have done wrong, that he committed a sin!

This is heresy.

Does he believe Jesus was God? After all, he still didn't genuflect at the altar after the elevations as I saw on Christmas Mass from St. Peter's.

Does this Pope believe that Jesus was God, or not? Does he believe He is truly present in the Holy Eucharist, or not?

He may be Pope, but he cannot be allowed to get away with this kind of non-magisterial theological and historical nuttiness that someone will believe and promote because he said it.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Typical Jesuit!

James Joseph said...

The homily for same day at my parish said this, "Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were not a perfect family. They had their problems." Incrediblly, open ended, no? Prior this was the assertion that Joseph and Mary "assumed Jesus was with family in the caravan." This one is more subtle but still offensive to His Majesty. You see holy Writ has it, "They had not the knowledge..."

Anonymous said...

Maybe Cardinal Jorge skipped Luke 2:49.. "Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you know I had to be in my Father's house?"
And thats the End of story! No need to add his own version.

Jim J. McCrea said...

Jesus never ever had to apologize - for He was completely without fault.

Dios me ama said...

"The Church will be in eclipse..." -Our Lady of La Salette

Bergoglio is not a valid pope he is an impostor.


St. Francis of Assisi (1181-1226)
"There will be an uncanonically elected pope who will cause a great Schism, there will be diverse thoughts preached which will cause many, even those in the different orders to doubt, yea, even agree with those heretics which will cause my Order to divide, then will there be such universal dissension and persecutions that if those days were not shortened even the elect would be lost."

Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913 “The Pope himself, if notoriously guilty of heresy, would cease to be Pope because he would cease to be a member of the Church.” -

Wernz-Vidal — Canon Law, 1943
“Through notorious and openly divulged heresy, the Roman Pontiff, should he fall into heresy, by that very fact (ipso facto) is deemed to be deprived of the power of jurisdiction even before any declaratory judgment by the Church... A Pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the Church.” And also: “A doubtful pope is no pope.”

St. Thomas Cajetan, O.P. (1469-1534)
Theologian and Cardinal

He points out that the famous axiom "Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia" (Where the Pope is, there is also the Church) holds true only when the Pope acts and behaves as the Pope, because Peter "is subject to the duties of the Office" otherwise, "neither is the Church in him, nor is he in the Church."



St. Francis de Sales (1567-1622)
Bishop and Doctor of the Church
"Now when the Pope is explicitly a heretic, he falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church . . ."


St. Alphonsus Liguori: “If ever a Pope, as a private person, should fall into heresy, he should at once fall from the Pontificate. If, however, God were to permit a pope to become a notorious and contumacious heretic, he would by such fact cease to be pope, and the apostolic chair would be vacant.”

St. Robert Bellarmine: “A Pope who is a manifest heretic automatically ceases to be a Pope and head, just as he ceases automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore, he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately lose all jurisdiction.” -

"It is very dangerous for the Christian Soul
join to a false pope; the
false pope is like "a foreign god
in this world, an idol, a statue, a
fictitious image of Christ" (Saint Vincent Ferrer, O.P)

Anonymous said...

Bravo and AMEN!!!!

Anonymous said...

Here's the correct translation of Luke 2: 49 (Douay-Rheims Bible):

[49] And he said to them: How is it that you sought me? did you not know, that I must be about my father' s business?

Maybe he has the wrong version of Scripture too.