“A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us.” ― St. Antony the Great
There have been some outrageous statements made by prominent Catholic leaders in defense of the homo-pedo crimes of Catholic leaders.
This one may be the worst.
Donohue is referring to Catholic children, sexually assaulted and used up by Clergy under their Sacramental authority and spiritual care. He is talking about children who have been spiritually murdered by Priests.
Speechless. That borders on "aiding and abetting".
He is the worst layperson representative for the Catholic Church in recent history. His comments are cold and unsympathetic. I am pretty sure that if his child would have gotten groped or abused by a sodomite priest he would be singing a different tune. Now that Wuerl is in hiding maybe Donohue's funding will be cut off.
We are really and sincerely surprised at his defense of the church. There is no other conclusion but he is in the pocket of the bishops. We were once supporters of the Catholic League, and back in the day he did a good job of defending Catholicism from the culture attacks, which have lessened now because Catholicism rolled over and gave up. But back when Catholicism was defended by the men in the church, he helped.
It is shocking to see how zealously Donahue is deflecting attention and minimizing the sexual abuse of boys and seminarians. Really shocking. Here's the sad thing, it works. He gets lots of EWTN Catholic types, also called neo-cons, to cheer his efforts. There are lots of Catholics who are happy to play, let's pretend none of this happened. He is a perfect enabler of that. The pope and the Cardinals and bishops being what they are does not surprise me now, but Donahue's words have. Money and influence, they are the god of this world.
Kathleen - exactly right, and you've described to a "T" how conservative-but-not-traditional Catholics have been co-opted by the Modernists to enable the Church's demolition. The claims being made by the neo-socialists of the Democratic party - "socialism works, we just need to get the policies right, our predecessors didn't because they weren't as smart/wealthy/technologically advanced as we are" - are the same claims they make about Modernized Catholicism: "Modern/Post-V2/Novus Ordo Catholicism will work....if we just make it "conservative" enough!" Their branch of Modernism is the weak form of it so they constantly get out maneuvered by the stronger "liberal" form of Modernism.
It baffles me how people like Donahue, Weigel, the apologetics-industrial-complex (Catholic Answers), most of EWTN, etc. who have degrees in this stuff can't see this! I guess if the money is good enough - and at $500k a year for Donahue, it certainly is - then you just stick with what you know and get real comfortable with the cognative dissonance.
well one must remember, this is a paid position of his, money can often convince men to freely do offensive things - and now it and his world are falling apart. i'm happy i have never donated to his organization. as for the USCCB and its Catholic charity front organizations, and the dioceses, we just need to stop giving. its literally an international human sex trafficking cabal. wonder what late night visitors archbishop mccarrick got whilst globetrotting on the vcatican's "behest" and the laity's dime.
Rather have mass in people's barns and elementary school cafeterias, no beautiful churches and material glory are worth the dishonor the Church suffers now.
I wonder if Catholics in ancient Rome were drawing enormous salaries to "defend" Catholic rights?
There is another mystery in all of this. God is house cleaning. God demands "all or nothing". Those Catholics who are still charging money to tell us about the grave danger of sodomy in the Church, should be ignored. Did St. Paul sell the truth?
What would we think of a person who would not inform the police of an abuser, unless they were paid? Well, the same applies to these Catholics who sit around trying to make a "fast buck" off thousands of abused children, empty seminaries, sodomite bishops and pervert priests.
If you have something to say: say it!!!
A final comment. Archbishop Vigano did not sell his story. But he could have: he could have made a small fortune. I think he is teaching us something.
Its also sexual discrimination ,its making out that groping and inappropriately touching boys and young men is not sexual assault,yet if it was done to a young girl or woman it would be. Even their definition of sexual assault is ambiguous. How many young men and boys have had their lives ruined by fiends ,innocence once stolen can never be returned.
If a member of his family were accosted in this way I wonder would he be still making excuses for the clergy? He is being paid to support deviant prelates & is now the equivalent of Judas. He needs to repent & find another job.
I wonder what all those convert apologist Catholics really think about this. I am a convert myself and read many of their books. But the institutional Church never seemed to match what they were saying.
All he was saying was that the church-haters describe the Pennsylvania report as describing "RAPE, RAPE, RAPE" of Catholic children, and that most of the incidents reported didn't involve "rape," i.e. penetration of someone's body, but were other forms of abuse. Is that hard to understand?
Rape does *not* require "penetration". It takes about two seconds to find that on google.
I am curious why it is important to establish this crime does not rise to the level of rape. It does, but why would a Carholic try to make that case in the face of such systemic evil and devastated victims?
Who is he? Why is he so important? If one person were to grope or attempt to grope me, and another were to rape or attempt to rape me, they would both receive the same response- broken bones. Bill Donohue is an idiot!
Maybe he is ssa attracted himself and sympathizes. He knows perhaps the power of the attraction and Takes offense that the most despicable word rape would be used to describe most if not all acting out.
16 comments:
There have been some outrageous statements made by prominent Catholic leaders in defense of the homo-pedo crimes of Catholic leaders.
This one may be the worst.
Donohue is referring to Catholic children, sexually assaulted and used up by Clergy under their Sacramental authority and spiritual care. He is talking about children who have been spiritually murdered by Priests.
Speechless. That borders on "aiding and abetting".
He is the worst layperson representative for the Catholic Church in recent history. His comments are cold and unsympathetic. I am pretty sure that if his child would have gotten groped or abused by a sodomite priest he would be singing a different tune. Now that Wuerl is in hiding maybe Donohue's funding will be cut off.
We are really and sincerely surprised at his defense of the church. There is no other conclusion but he is in the pocket of the bishops. We were once supporters of the Catholic League, and back in the day he did a good job of defending Catholicism from the culture attacks, which have lessened now because Catholicism rolled over and gave up. But back when Catholicism was defended by the men in the church, he helped.
It is shocking to see how zealously Donahue is deflecting attention and minimizing the sexual abuse of boys and seminarians. Really shocking. Here's the sad thing, it works. He gets lots of EWTN Catholic types, also called neo-cons, to cheer his efforts. There are lots of Catholics who are happy to play, let's pretend none of this happened. He is a perfect enabler of that. The pope and the Cardinals and bishops being what they are does not surprise me now, but Donahue's words have. Money and influence, they are the god of this world.
Kathleen - exactly right, and you've described to a "T" how conservative-but-not-traditional Catholics have been co-opted by the Modernists to enable the Church's demolition. The claims being made by the neo-socialists of the Democratic party - "socialism works, we just need to get the policies right, our predecessors didn't because they weren't as smart/wealthy/technologically advanced as we are" - are the same claims they make about Modernized Catholicism: "Modern/Post-V2/Novus Ordo Catholicism will work....if we just make it "conservative" enough!" Their branch of Modernism is the weak form of it so they constantly get out maneuvered by the stronger "liberal" form of Modernism.
It baffles me how people like Donahue, Weigel, the apologetics-industrial-complex (Catholic Answers), most of EWTN, etc. who have degrees in this stuff can't see this! I guess if the money is good enough - and at $500k a year for Donahue, it certainly is - then you just stick with what you know and get real comfortable with the cognative dissonance.
well one must remember, this is a paid position of his, money can often convince men to freely do offensive things - and now it and his world are falling apart. i'm happy i have never donated to his organization. as for the USCCB and its Catholic charity front organizations, and the dioceses, we just need to stop giving. its literally an international human sex trafficking cabal. wonder what late night visitors archbishop mccarrick got whilst globetrotting on the vcatican's "behest" and the laity's dime.
Rather have mass in people's barns and elementary school cafeterias, no beautiful churches and material glory are worth the dishonor the Church suffers now.
I wonder if Catholics in ancient Rome were drawing enormous salaries to "defend" Catholic rights?
There is another mystery in all of this. God is house cleaning. God demands "all or nothing". Those Catholics who are still charging money to tell us about the grave danger of sodomy in the Church, should be ignored. Did St. Paul sell the truth?
What would we think of a person who would not inform the police of an abuser, unless they were paid? Well, the same applies to these Catholics who sit around trying to make a "fast buck" off thousands of abused children, empty seminaries, sodomite bishops and pervert priests.
If you have something to say: say it!!!
A final comment. Archbishop Vigano did not sell his story. But he could have: he could have made a small fortune. I think he is teaching us something.
What is wrong with this man Bill D? Ewwww! Is he on drugs or a mental patient?
Its also sexual discrimination ,its making out that groping and inappropriately touching boys and young men is not sexual assault,yet if it was done to a young girl or woman it would be. Even their definition of sexual assault is ambiguous. How many young men and boys have had their lives ruined by fiends ,innocence once stolen can never be returned.
If a member of his family were accosted in this way I wonder would he be still making excuses for the clergy? He is being paid to support deviant prelates & is now the equivalent of Judas. He needs to repent & find another job.
https://lifepetitions.com/petition/pledge-of-support-pray-for-archbishop-vigano
I wonder what all those convert apologist Catholics really think about this. I am a convert myself and read many of their books. But the institutional Church never seemed to match what they were saying.
Vickie
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-priest-abuse-victims-demand-transparency-vatican-205432210.html?guccounter=1
All he was saying was that the church-haters describe the Pennsylvania report as describing "RAPE, RAPE, RAPE" of Catholic children, and that most of the incidents reported didn't involve "rape," i.e. penetration of someone's body, but were other forms of abuse. Is that hard to understand?
@ Luke:
Rape does *not* require "penetration". It takes about two seconds to find that on google.
I am curious why it is important to establish this crime does not rise to the level of rape. It does, but why would a Carholic try to make that case in the face of such systemic evil and devastated victims?
Who is he? Why is he so important? If one person were to grope or attempt to grope me, and another were to rape or attempt to rape me, they would both receive the same response- broken bones. Bill Donohue is an idiot!
Maybe he is ssa attracted himself and sympathizes. He knows perhaps the power of the attraction and Takes offense that the most despicable word rape would be used to describe most if not all acting out.
Post a Comment