Wednesday, 7 December 2016

Sorry George, I do not tend toward being an eater of human waste. What does it say about you who would use such descriptions. Where is mercy?

And you thought it couldn't get any worse?

Is there a psychiatrist in Rome, or how about, an exorcist?

Can you get one over to the St. Martha Motor Inn right away, top floor?

Seriously, there are a few things to unpack in this which I've bolded. His Peronist style of dictatorship conflicting with his wants for a Synodal Church, and his own manipulation that two-thirds of those voting at the Synod voted for Holy Communion for adulterers. This is not the case. He is playing games with the ambiguity of his own work.

Cardinals, Bishops! You must speak out to "Peter!" Only four? Only Bishop Schneider and a handful of others.

Are the rest of you emasculated cowards?

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ROME- Never one to shy away from a soundbite,  Pope Francis said media organizations have a tendency to “coprophragy”, meaning that which is dirty and base, and that they shouldn’t exploit this instinct to generate sales and readers.

Ah, the gentle soul Ines St. Martin. She is very prim and proper not wanting to offend. Who could blame here for substituting "smut" for what Bergoglio really said and what it really means.

Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/[1] or coprophagy /kəˈprɒfədʒiː/ is the consumption of feces. The word is derived from the Greek κόπρος copros, "feces" and φαγεῖν phagein, "to eat". Coprophagy refers to many kinds of feces-eating, including eating feces of other species (heterospecifics), of other individuals (allocoprophagy), or one's own (autocoprophagy) – those once deposited or taken directly from the anus.[2]
Coprophilia (from Greek κόπρος, kópros—excrement and φιλία, philía—liking, fondness), also called scatophilia or scat (Greek: σκατά, skatá-feces),[1] is the paraphilia involving sexual arousal and pleasure from feces.[2][3] In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association, it is classified under 302.89 – Paraphilia NOS (Not Otherwise Specified) and has no diagnostic criteria other than a general statement about paraphilias that says "the diagnosis is made if the behavior, sexual urges, or fantasies cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning".

Oh, and you thought this was the first time he's used this flowery language?

Now, back to Crux.

Francis has also said he prefers a “synodal” church, one in which the pope accompanies others and helps them grow, to a “pyramidal” church, where “Peter says what to do.”

The comments came in an interview with the Belgian weekly magazine Tertio.

On the media, the pontiff said news organizations  have the power to do a lot of good, but at the same time, are prone to what he called four “temptations.”

The first, he said, is calumny, “to tell a lie about a person,” something particularly seen “in the world of politics.”

Then there’s defamation, in which news stories damage people’s reputations.

The pope said that “every person has the right to a good name, but perhaps in their previous life, or in their past life, or 10 years ago, had a problem with the law or in his family life…so, bringing this into the spotlight is grave, it damages, it cancels a person.”

To describe this form of defamation, he used an Argentine expression meaning, roughly, “to bring out a file” on someone, holding them responsible today for what they did a long time ago, even after they have been punished or repented of it.

The third temptation is “misinformation,” meaning, “faced with any situation, to say one part of the truth but not the other.”

“No! This is to misinform,” he said. “Because you give half of the truth to the viewer. And as such, he [or she] can’t come to a proper judgement about the whole truth.”

Misinformation, he said, is “probably the biggest damage a news organization can cause. Because it directs public opinion in one direction by removing a part of the truth.”

Francis said that media are also called to be clean and transparent, without falling into what he called “the disease of coprophilia: constantly looking to communicate scandal, communicate ugly things, even if they are true.”

In the literal sense, coprophagy and coprophilia are perversions involving excrement, usually linked to mental illness. In Spanish, the language in which the interview was conducted, the terms are sometimes used to refer to an appetite for morbid or sick stories.

“And since people have a tendency towards coprophagy, it can be very damaging,” the pope insisted, before adding that the media are builders of opinion, and that as such, potentially do “immense good.”

This is not the first time Francis has used this language to refer to what he considers the media’s tendency to place too much emphasis on the negative. In a 2013 interview with the Italian newspaper La Stampa, he was asked about corruption in the curia, the Vatican bureaucracy.

At that time, the pope said that the curia gave an important service, and that news about its corruption were often exaggerated and manipulated to spread scandal.

“Journalists sometimes risk becoming ill from coprophilia and thus encouraging coprophagia,” he told Andrea Tornielli at the time, “which is a sin that taints all men and women, that is, the tendency to focus on the negative rather than the positive aspects.”

In the interview with Tertio, released on Wednesday, Francis was also asked about his attempts to “renew the Church” inspired by the Second Vatican Council. In his reply, the pope distinguished what he called the ‘synodal Church’, which he contrasted with a pyramidal, or top-down, model.

“The Church is born from the communities, the bases, baptism, and is organized around a bishop that convokes it, strengthens it,” he said. “The bishop is the successor of the apostles. This is the Church. But in the world, there are many bishops, many organized churches, and there’s Peter.”

Hence, he continued, there’s either a “pyramidal” Church, where “what Peter says what to do,” or a synodal Church, where “Peter is Peter but he accompanies the Churches and makes them grow.”

The richest experience of the latter, Francis said, were the two synod of bishops on the family, which took place in October 2014 and again in 2015. During them, he continued, all the bishops of the world, representing their dioceses, made their voices heard.

“From there we have ‘Amoris Laetitia,’” the pope said, referring to the apostolic exhortation he released earlier in the year, as the fruit of the synods.

The richness of nuances present there, he added, is part of the Church: “Unity in differences. This is synodality. Not to go down from top to bottom, but to listen to the Churches and harmonize them, discern.”

Everything which is present in this document, Francis continued, was approved in the synod by two thirds of the bishops, and this is a “guarantee.”

Synodality, the pope said, is something the Catholic Church still has to work on and not to be afraid to embrace, adding the Latin phrase that says that the churches are always with Peter and under Peter, cum petro et sub petro, make the pope the “guarantor of the unity of the Church.”

Asked about the 100th anniversary of World War I, Francis said that Europeans didn’t live up to the post-war call of “war never again.”

While lip service is being paid to the idea, weapons are being produced and sold to both sides in a conflict.

Acknowledging he hasn’t studied this economic theory in depth, he mentioned reading in several books the theory that when a country’s accounts don’t balance as they should, nations go to war for financial reasons.

“Making war is an easy way to make wealth,” he said. “But of course, the price is very high: blood.”
Quoting his own reference of a World War III being fought piecemeal, he mentioned the ongoing conflicts in Ukraine, the Middle East, Africa and Yemen as examples.

Asked about current conflicts being fueled by religious differences, Francis insisted, as he’s done before, on the fact that no war can be justified in the name of God or religion.

“Terrorism, war, are not related to religion,” he said. “Religious deformations are used to justify [war],” but they have nothing to do “with the essence of what is religious. Religion is love, unity, respect, dialogue.”

In the interview, Francis was also asked about a possible trip to Belgium, to which he answered it’s not currently in the works. Yet he did share something that was unknown even for Geert de Kerpel, editor of Tertio and the man behind the interview: while he was a Jesuit provincial in Argentina, Francis traveled to Belgium several times.

“There was an Association of Friends of the Catholic University of Cordoba,” Francis said. “And as its chancellor, I would go there to talk to them when they had their spiritual exercises.”

De Kerpel did some follow-up research and found out that the reason behind the travel was a Jesuit priest named Jean Sonet, once the rector of the Jesuit-run Université de Namur in Belgium. In 1958, De Kerpel told Crux, the priest relocated to Argentina, where he became the librarian of the Catholic University of Cordoba. Eventually, he became vice-rector of the university.

It was Sonet who asked his friends for help. The impact this group of friends had on the institution was such that a recently inaugurated new library at the Catholic University of Cordoba was named after Sonet.


Maudie N Mandeville said...

Author Randy Engel had a scathing letter to 'George' back in 2013. Well worth the read. Daggers.

November 10, 2013
An open letter to Pope Francis

"Now the term "coprophilia" which you used spontaneously in the interview refers to a sexual perversion (fetish) by which a person derives sexual excitement from the presence of feces. The term "coprophagia" pertains to the actual act of eating excrement. Both paraphilias are commonly associated with homosexual behavior and are a regular feature of homosexual pornography.

That a bishop should so glibly refer to such disgusting and perverted practices in a public interview clearly indicates to me that you are not unschooled in the ways and dangers of sexual perversion, and hence, have no real need for me to instruct you on the perversity of homosexual behaviors, nor on the grave necessity of combating the Homosexual Collective and other forces of organized perversion."

Dan said...

This interest in the scatological may explain his affection for Luther. Hmmmmm.....

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Jorge Bergoglio lied. Not everything included in the final synod documents was approved by two thirds of Cardinals.

The rejected paragraphs he ordered to be included were those on communion for the divorced and homosexuality.

ROME -- Pope Francis has “pushed the door open” on the issues of homosexuality and Communion for the divorced and remarried, and no vote by a future Synod of Bishops is going to reverse it, according to one of the pope’s closest advisors. Cardinal Reinhard Marx, the president of the German Catholic Bishops’ Conference and a member of Pope Francis’ inner circle, said in an interview with Die Zeit that the pope himself had ordered the rejected paragraph on homosexuality to be retained in the Synod’s final document.

It was widely reported by the world’s press, including interviews with high-ranking prelates, that the paragraphs relating to homosexuality and Communion for divorced and remarried Catholics in the mid-term document aroused shock and outrage among some Synod fathers. The paragraphs asked whether the Church could learn to “accept” the homosexual “orientation.”

In the Synod’s final document, the fathers failed to approve a paragraph mentioning the Synod’s discussion of appropriate “pastoral attention” for homosexual persons and quoting Church teaching that homosexual unions are not “in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God's plan for marriage and family.”

Despite only garnering 118 out of 180 votes, and thus failing to meet the needed two-thirds majority, the Vatican included the paragraph in the published document along with the vote tally. Likewise, the document included a paragraph on the discussions about opening Communion to civilly ‘remarried’ divorcees that had failed to gain the needed votes.

Ana Milan said...

For a man who said "Who am I to judge" PF shows a judgemental attitude when targeting the media.
Misinformation, he said, is “probably the biggest damage a news organization can cause. Because it directs public opinion in one direction by removing a part of the truth". Is this not precisely what AL does by its footnotes? It is neither clean nor transparent & PF's refusal to answer the Dubia underlines that fact. I think he should take a good look in his mirror before questioning anyone on these topics.

raphaelheals said...

"The third temptation is to give tell half of the truth and to leave out the rest." Lord please help us! Do you mean like Familias Consortio #84....where Pope John Paul's words were quoted but the last part was intentionally left out that didn't fit the narrative to allow Communion? Or Veritatis Splendor...same thing.

Anonymous said...

Who talks like this? What in heaven's name is the matter with this man? If anyone is obsessed with this perversion it sounds like it's him.

Anonymous said...

It's an interesting exercise to attempt to imagine any previous pope talking about such things publicly. Couldn't the point be made without reference to such filth?

Jaybee said...

A former nightclub bouncer lacking the educational requirements for even cardinal, who refuses to wear cuff links: Is a bit of crude language a shock from such a man?

Anonymous said...

@Paul Morphy : Francis wants groupthink and lockstep. Fine. However there is a noble thing called fact checking. It behoves everyone to fact check the arguments which are presented.

BillyHW said...

"Pope" Francis seems to be obsessed with coprophilia and coprophagia.

Anonymous said...

Yes,"Pope" Bergoglio & many of his "Cardinals" needs an urgent Exorcism.

Eirene said...

It disturbs me that a "Pope" could talk about a "past life" and a "previous life"! We are not Buddhists!We do NOT believe in Reincarnation ! Even though Francis might? Hmm - now THAT S a Worry! Next please!

Welshy said...

He needs a bar of Fels Naptha in his dirty mouth. Shame on you, Francis. Shame on you. Now go wash your mouth. And answer the Dubia, you cowardly little bully!

Anonymous said...

But which kind? What type? There are so many. The floater. The malt ball. The Lincoln log.

The question remains. Do we need a dubia?

Anonymous said...

I have a question to those who are waiting for an answer from Bergoglio about the Dubia.

What kind of answer do you people expect from a progressivist "Pope" like Bergoglio ?

This guy not even worthy to answer any kind of question from Catholics. He's a radical anti Catholic,a dangerous man who want to lead all poor souls to hell.