Friday, 30 October 2020

China Virus in Toronto - What are the real numbers? What is the real risk?

Let me state quite clearly. In order to reduce the transmission of the China Virus and to protect myself, I support the use of masks in close quarters in public places and this includes churches. Those who cannot wear one for health reasons are legitimate but are few. As for Mass and in particular the Latin Mass, all you out there who refuse to wear a mask at Mass where required are being obstinate, prideful and disobedient to legitimate authority, both ecclesiastical and civil. Public health requirements are part of legitimate authority. Bishops own the church buildings and have authority over the physical space. Put on a mask. We have already seen what happened in two parishes in the Diocese of Hamilton because of prideful and arrogant "trads" who think this is a precursor to the Mark of the Beast. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but it is not a sin to put on a mask to protect your neighbours and yourself for what it can do from any contagion. It is an act of charity!

That being said, I was browsing a hospital network web page the other day and was astounded at the actual facts - the very low numbers of actual hospital and intensive care admissions. I have not looked at every hospital in the greater Toronto area, but I have compiled a short list below and photos from their web pages with the actual facts as of the morning of October 29, 2020. Note the distance between these hospitals on the map. The population served by these institutions is in the hundreds of thousands, if not, a million. The population of Toronto and Mississauga combined is 3,500,000 as of 2016.

Let's have a look.






The China Virus is real. It can be deadly, Of this, there is no doubt. Numbers in Ontario are up to levels higher than in March. But we are now testing 40,000 people per day rather than a few thousand. It is not cases, it is hospitalizations. The reality is, there may be as many now with it as there was in March, or there may be fewer. The more  you test, the more you find.

Europe is losing its collective mind. Italy, France, Germany, Belgium are all going into lockdown. It is insanity. 

There is no reason whatsoever, at least in Ontario, to even contemplate the draconian situation in Europe. Premier Douglas Ford knows this. He knows these numbers from all across Ontario and that the situation is in no way justifying the shut down of the entire economy. Targeted at best is a drastic matter for those businesses where it has occurred, bars, restaurants, gyms and of course, strip clubs. There is certainly no need for anyone to panic. There is no justification in killing our economies.

Wear your mask in public. Wash your hands. Keep a social distance as necessary. Eat properly. Sleep. Take Vitamins A, B, C and D and Zinc. Stay home if you're sick and stay away from people that are.

Closing down an economy is suicide. There is no reason in Ontario to do it. 


13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you Vox for your voice of Common sense , indeed it is rare!

Masks lower the viral load you are exposed to at any given time.Surgical masks are preferable to cloth. they cannot prevent all viruses from passing through , but they do lower the amount , especially those that hitch a ride on a dust particles or large droplets of mucous.
Personally I ditched one pro Trump blog group in my area since the youthful guy running the site likened a mask to wearing a dirty tampax on your face. As a healthcare professional I know better and his analogy was disgusting.
They have discovered the higher your D level the lower your chances of serious illness with covid. I also believe the virus has mutated somewhat by now. Hand washing is crucial.One of my daughters works in a small store. She requires everyone to wear a mask ,both employees and customers and she only allows four people at a time in her store.
She has been working since February and so far so good health wise.
President Trump's Doctors at Walter Reed Hospital said they wear masks to protect their patients and themselves.
Too bad for those who believe this to be the first step to the tyranny of the Antichrist .........they have no idea of what the Scriptures actually warn.


Anonymous said...

Can you logically prove they are “prideful” or “arrogrant”? There is a really nasty redpoll to swallow once you consider whether the whole covid fiasco is indeed about public heart and stare at he cold, hard evidence.

Barona said...

Doug Ford, with the entire establishment and media against him has tried to navigate a very difficult path. Those who angrily complain about him should be reminded they do not live in California, Michigan or other semi-despotic jurisdictions.

The bishops are what they are: globalists nearly to a man. But they own the buildings. They set the house rules(and they will answer to God for it). Do you want to do something constructive dear Catholics? STOP giving them your money. Just as you would not give money to Methodists or Anglicans, you are under no obligation to give money to Modernists. Find a good faithful Catholic priest, and support him directly!

Vox Cantoris said...

Anonymous said...
Can you logically prove they are “prideful” or “arrogrant”? There is a really nasty redpoll to swallow once you consider whether the whole covid fiasco is indeed about public heart and stare at he cold, hard evidence.

Are we really going down this road? That post was two weeks ago. In spite of being warned by the bishop, parish priest, myself and Una Voce Canada, these prideful, arrogant people refused to wear masks and they lost the Mass. That is fact.

As for disputes of whether the virus is real or not, that is not up for discussion here.

I am open to how it came about. That is a debatable point. A lab? A market? Intentional? Accidental? Certainly a communist cover-up, regardless.

What is not debatable is its existence or the deaths.

If you persist on this track, you will not be posted.

You'll put on a damn mask to buy your whiskey or jug of milk, surely Mass is a greater reasons to do it.

The point of this article, you obviously are too obtuse and dimwitted to get it, and I rarely insult my readers, is to show the low hospitalisation rate.

Consider yourself corrected.

Santa said...

It is certainly unfortunate that those two parishes in Hamilton lost their Traditional Mass, but no doubt the toxic atmosphere created over the years by Una Voce Toronto must have played a part. Those prideful and arrogant 'trads' may have been more receptive to sincere advice offerd by a more humble and respected organization. Time for the leadership to move on and let somebody less touchy and self-righteous take over.

Sam said...

The effectiveness of masks is by no means settled. Humans have a nasty way of acting contrary to scientists wishes, which makes any epidemiological pronouncements on the effectiveness of masks premature.
Feel the air passing between your mask and your skin. How does the virus know not to take that route? Or again, How many times a minute does the average person adjust their mask?
There's a very nice video of a man vaping while wearing a surgical mask, which should put to rest any nonsense about the effectiveness of masks as settled science.

Johnno said...

Sorry Vox. But I can't go along with it. I believe I actually possess a health exempt reason, and the Human Rights code accommodates many, but simply on principle I couldn't. Not even at the grocery store, where thankfully I have not encountered an issue. But let's just say I've been living quite frugally for the past few months and I'm blessed to have help from those who put up with it.

Since you won't allow further discussion about why, let me just simply say that I and many other believe that it IS an act of Charity to refuse.

They WANT the lock-downs. The Churches are optional to the point where they are either seen as an aid in the propaganda or not, otherwise they'd be shut, period. This whole thing is an exercise in psychological persuasion. The point of the lock-downs isn't the point. The point IS the lock-down. Just as the point for the Antifa lunatics isn't the point. The point IS revolution. They are putting all their marbles behind this and they need it to succeed very very badly.

Canada might be better right now than other nations with more insane regulations, but how long will that last? Note: the lockdowns and mask rules were in place long after the curve was on the way down. Will we escape it by being obedient or encourage more of it by docility? 'Cases', now redefined for this one unique virus to include asymptomatic (immune/healthy) people' are going to go up. That's what they're supposed to do. They will NEVER come down. They might as well make the Sun rising every morning a criteria for locking down. They have taken something entirely normal and routine and turned it into hysterical fear. The masks according to the CDC's own data only increase 'cases' which is what they want. By accommodating it we are collaborating with it. This isn't comparable to St. Thomas Moore offering "the benefit of the doubt." There is nothing to doubt. The facts are DAMNING. To simply play along would be to sin against our neighbour.

Having said that, there are other ways to go about this that don't put your parish 'at risk.' If your parish priest is worried and insists that you mask or leave, then obey him... leave. Don't enter the Church. Stand outside for the duration of Mass or far far away in the back where nobody is, if allowed.

That's what I do and intend to keep doing, even though I could fight for an exemption on my part. But I'd rather maintain my privacy, and I don't want to keep explaining myself over and over again. So provided it's not a blizzard, feel free to join me. I opt to receive Communion spiritually. I'll only hyperventilate in a mask for the 1-2 minutes that I'm in the Confessional where you can't see me.

Option 2 - Use the Bishop's own permission to remain at home and continue streaming the SSPX Mass, and tell them you're not coming back until the masks and other placebo rules are gone. No envelopes either. If Father is desperate and needs something, then call you.

Use their own rules to protest against them. Let the bishops and priests see a near-empty Church, with everybody refusing to enter and praying outside without masks. Leave when Mass is over and other masked people are exiting. This can be done when the weather is tolerable. If not, stream Mass on the internet or TV. Just perform your witness quietly and then leave. You're not breaking the 'law.' If the government tries to crack down on that too then it only exposes it as a load of hooey. Just do what you can.

Johnno said...

If Vox permits...

"Masks lower the viral load you are exposed to at any given time.Surgical masks are preferable to cloth. they cannot prevent all viruses from passing through , but they do lower the amount , especially those that hitch a ride on a dust particles or large droplets of mucous."

This means nothing. It's the equivalent of believing that a bullet-proof vest will save you from a Tomahawk Missile. Sure, every study will prove that it lowers the amount of shrapnel from reaching you, that's very true! But your odds of survival still ain't looking good.

All this is, is another one of those pieces of scientific data spouted by talking-mouths on TV that lack actual context. All masks stop is mucous and droplets, and whatever -might- be contained in them. But that's the tip of the viral load iceberg, which by the way, reaches much much further than any 6 feet social distancing rules. But if they followed the science, then all human interaction is practically impossible.

But we need to reduce any chance of risk, you say? Well, there's a difference between a statistic that significantly reduces the risk, a statistic that makes no difference no matter what you do, and a statistic where even attempting to enforce it to reduce risk ends up making things worse. Guess which one masks fall into?

This is why science and medical recommendations prior to 2020 stated that recommending masks gives people a false sense of security where they might take risks they otherwise wouldn't and in any hypothetical pandemic would only make things worse. And I've got very bad news for you. All this time, you've been walking around interacting with dust and particles carrying any number of viruses out there. Maybe you even passed by Ebola. You just never worried or thought about it until now.

Surgical masks also do not help you. That's not what they're for. Doctors wear them like they wear goggles and smocks and caps - to keep from getting dirty with blood and pus when they cut you open. The only good masks are the N-95 types with respirator valves. Needed because they are very airtight, need to be fitted properly, and also are very hard to breathe in and are therefore only recommended for trained professionals. So either that or you walk around in a biohazard suit.

The fact remains that masks don't prevent viral pandemics. Their use is entirely irrelevant during a pandemic. And note: I am saying 'viral pandemic', and not referring to isolated cases where they help prevent bacteria from spreading that is entirely trapped within mucous. Or protecting you from larger particles like dust and certain cleaning droplet chemicals and aerosols that are not good breathing in. Even certain gases require military-grade equipment gas masks.

They don't even test you to find a 'virus.' They test you to discover residual symptoms, and that residue can be attributed to a virus. Sometimes it's obvious. In this case it could be COVID-19 or COVID-18 or COVID-17 or any other Covids, they don't actually know. They find a piece that matches all of the above, and for 'cautionary' reasons this year, they are all considered due to #19.

The only way of knowing is to see if you respond to the older treatments that cured #18 and #17. If not, then you likely have the new thing and need a new treatment. And that could still be anything else but #19, which is why even all the competing vaccine groups can't legally guarantee that their concoction will help you.

This is why prior to 2020 mass-masking was not recommended. Because frequently limiting your oxygen intake and breathing in what you expel puts you at further risk of health complications, not less. And when everybody starts doing it - surprise! More people get sick! And under a faulty-test-happy government, 'cases' go up. So no surprise that the majority of 'cases' come from mask-wearers.

Vox Cantoris said...

Blogger Santa said...
It is certainly unfortunate that those two parishes in Hamilton lost their Traditional Mass, but no doubt the toxic atmosphere created over the years by Una Voce Toronto must have played a part. Those prideful and arrogant 'trads' may have been more receptive to sincere advice offerd by a more humble and respected organization. Time for the leadership to move on and let somebody less touchy and self-righteous take over.

Hey Santa, are you not really John Vicente? Didn't you once write for Toronto Catholic Witness? What happened?

Thanks for the advice.

Go to Confession. You know what you've done.

Vox Cantoris said...

Johnno,

You are always welcome here. I didn't want the post to degenerate into a mask discussion, for example Santa, others have not been published, because my effort was to point that the hospitalisations are surprisingly low. My point was that people need to be logical and use common sense.

I much prefer my N95 saved over since before the pandemic. I wear it at Costco.

I did not say, nor did the first commentator say, that masks reduce 100%. They reduce the viral load and that is what seems to be which causes the infection, the amount of virus.

The virus may also be mutating and weakening.

People wore masks during the Spanish Flu. Church was closed in some places.

The SSPX in Toronto wants people to wear a mask. I know for a fact, many refuse. My article has been useful to them to remind people not to tempt God.

The people in the Diocese of Hamilton were quietly counselled by me and the President of Una Voce Canada. They were counselled privately. The organiser is an anti-masker, his Facebook was full of it. They were even worried it would happen, they brought it on themselves.

Tom A. said...

There are other factors that go into wearing a mask, CO2 and O2 levels change, moisture and other bacteria can grow on masks that are reused over and over. Medical, first responders, military, and industrial workers all go through rigorous training on masks, breathing devices, and other PPE before they are qualified to perform their duties. The general population is not trained and is not properly informed on the risks they are taking versus the possible benefit or protection they may acquire from mask wearing. This whole issue has become political and the globalist forces who hate the Catholic faith are not to be trusted.

Anonymous said...

Johnno,

Higher viral load , the more serious the sickness is . More to replicate and hit all he organs as it travels though out the body.
It is like getting hit with a mac truck vs a bicycle.

The vaping nobody with the mask video proves NOTHING.Viruses hitch rides on dust particles and droplets of mucous. True some are small, but dust particles and larger globules of mucous are stopped since surgical masks are another layer of protection. Fool proof? No, yet only fools would refuse another layer of protection.

Unknown said...

If the governor or bishop told you they were going to tell a lie, and that you must participate in their lie, or you will be punished, are you obligated to support the lie out of obedience? Is that the humble thing to do?

The response to covid is disproportionate to the threat. Our leaders are not walking in the truth, they are suppressing it. They intend to stoke fear to continue to lead us to the dark future they openly hope to attain for humanity.

Even guilting me that a mask works when right on the side of the box it says that they don't, seems manipulative.

It's not pride that makes me refuse to wear a mask at every opportunity, it's honesty.