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Wednesday, 1 September 2021

Bergoglio the narcissist and his personalism against the Mass.

I've read this Bergoglian bile quickly, I wish to puke. I'm rather cranky, given the Fascist Premier Ford prison of Ontario and the time of year. Feel free to analyze this narcissistic tirade or read Father Z for his commentary.

I have nothing good to say about any of it so I won't say anything but this; the end of this charade, this circus can't come soon enough in whatever form it takes.


Q: I don’t know if Pope Francis is a man who likes to bang his fist on the table. Would it be possible that the last blow on the table has been the pontifical document limiting the celebration of the ‘Tridentine Masses’? And I also ask you to explain to my audience what the ‘Tridentine Mass’ is, what is it about the Tridentine Mass that is not mandatory. 
FRANCIS: I’m not one to bang on the table, I don’t get it. I’m rather shy. The history of Traditionis custodes is long. When first St. John Paul II—and later Benedict, more clearly with Summorum Pontificum—, gave this possibility of celebrating with the Missal of John XXIII (prior to that of Paul VI, which is post-conciliar) for those who did not feel good with the current liturgy, who had a certain nostalgia… it seemed to me one of the most beautiful and human pastoral things of Benedict XVI, who is a man of exquisite humanity. And so it began. That was the reason. After three years he said that an evaluation had to be made. An evaluation was made, and it seemed that everything was going well. And it was fine. Ten years passed from that evaluation to the present (that is, thirteen years since the promulgation [of Summorum Pontificum]) and last year we saw with those responsible for Worship and for the Doctrine of the Faith that it was appropriate to make another evaluation of all the bishops of the world. And it was done. It lasted the whole year. Then the subject was studied and based on that, the concern that appeared the most was that something that was done to help pastorally those who have lived a previous experience was being transformed into ideology. That is, from a pastoral thing to ideology. So, we had to react with clear norms. Clear norms that put a limit to those who had not lived that experience. Because it seemed to be fashionable in some places that young priests would say, “Oh, no, I want…” and maybe they don’t know Latin, they don’t know what it means. And on the other hand, to support and consolidate Summorum Pontificum. I did more or less the outline, I had it studied and I worked, and I worked a lot, with traditionalist people of good sense. And the result was that pastoral care that must be taken, with some good limits. For example, that the proclamation of the Word be in a language that everyone understands; otherwise it would be like laughing at the Word of God. Little things. But yes, the limit is very clear. After this motu proprio, a priest who wants to celebrate that is not in the same condition as before—that it was for nostalgia, for desire, &c.— and so he has to ask permission from Rome. A kind of permission for bi-ritualism, which is given only by Rome. [Like] a priest who celebrates in the Eastern Rite and the Latin Rite, he is bi-ritual but with the permission of Rome. That is to say, until today, the previous ones continue but a little bit organized. Moreover, asking that there be a priest who is in charge not only of the liturgy but also of the spiritual life of that community. If you read the letter well and read the Decree well, you will see that it is simply a constructive reordering, with pastoral care and avoiding an excess by those who are not…

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

https://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/no-more-training-rome-seminarians-latin-mass

Anonymous said...

Can someone fact check his claim that he “worked with traditional people good sense”? Who were they?

Christina ofs said...

I cannot stomach one word from Bergolio!
He knows he attacks the true mass. He's not stupid, or he is, and he certainly is blind by his mortals sins and betrayal. I hear confirmation he is a Saint Gallen member, as was St JPII; sickening. KYRIE ELEISON!

Freemason APE Church!

God is permitting all this, but we dont know why.

Let's follow Fr. Z's stay prayerful, strong in the Lord; there's only one Rite in Heaven.

Johnno said...

As usual some long winded answer and flowery homo language just to say nothing at all and enough vagueries to allude to unspecified "un-pastor-like" activities with no concrete examples.

Let me sum it up for you:

He has no legitimate reason. He's simply lying. The real reason is that he and his heretical friends know that nobody wants their novel corona-mass, nor his suspect mercy-vaccines, so taking a cue from secular governments, they are restricting your rights and access to the Mass so that you give in to their demands and believe in and do what they say.

When you stop thinking of him as "pope" and start seeing him as another globalist installed politucal puppet, then it will all start to make sense.

Brian said...

Vox
You remember the popular sixties hit song "Aquarius", by the Fifth Dimension, I believe. How about changing some of the lyrics to make the song suitable, as the theme song, for the entire Vatican II church. It starts like this.."This is the dawning of the CHURCH of Aquarius..." Weird Al Yankovic could do a great parady. Just think of all the words, some offensive to pious ears, that could be included: dialoque, make a mess, smell the sheep, bead counters, annihilationism, coprophilia etc. Anyway, Bergoglio, this Traditionis Deletor, has said "There is no going back...". He is the gold standard for what Archbishop Lefebrve called Modernist Rome. And this Modernist Rome, despite the hopes of many traditionalists, is not returning to Catholic Rome, no more than Anglican Canterbury is returning to Catholic Rome. That is how far gone things are. It is simply not going to happen.

Anonymous said...

In a weird way, he's the perfect pope for this time. When things reach their natural end, it makes sense that it wouldn't make sense. Why should infernal hopes that come true and are realized in the world make sense to those who believe in and ascribe to the things of God? We hope for a "Catholic" pope, but to what end? This is the battle of battles, it is here or in the works. Supernatural realities clashing like gongs over our heads. We hear the noise, but can't comprehend the full picture. Where is our captain, we think, we need a leader. There is a reason why we are called the flock, the sheep. We need the shepherd who can guide us through the storm. Right now we cling to what we know, what Jesus and Holy Mother Church taught us. We feel alone, but we are not alone. We are standing on the rock of firm foundation, not the shifting sands of the world. "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for Thou art with me, Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me..."
Keep the faith friends. Resist. Follow your well-formed Catholic conscience. Expect to be derided and even isolated. But continue on, Christian soldier, marching as to war. And when you yearn for the voice that guides you, read Scripture, and the words of Abp. Vigano.