Sunday, 10 February 2019

Josef Seifert: Francis Has “Rejected Christianity”, Turned God into a "Relativist"

We have featured Professor Josef Seifert before on the persecution of the faithful by the Church of Bergoglio which is not the Catholic Church. Gloria.TV presents another column by Siefert.

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Grave Concerns About Pope Francis’ Abu Dhabi Document - By Professor Josef Seifert

There are grave concerns among Catholics about the Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together which Pope Francis and the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar, Ahmad Al-Tayyeb, signed on February 4, 2019 in Abu Dhabi.

Nobody doubts that many truths about God and the natural moral law, and many semina verbi have been known by the pagans and are contained in many religions (except in the directly satanic ones), such as the “golden rule”.

Nobody believes that God cannot give the grace of eternal salvation outside the realm of the visible Church, its sacraments and conscious Christian faith. No one fails to see the many good and beautiful truths Pope Francis and the Imam confirm in the document.

However, to claim that “the pluralism and the diversity of religions" (colour, sex, race and language) are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings” goes far, far beyond all this.

How can God will religions that deny Christ's divinity and resurrection? How is this compatible with logic? Can God want that men hold contradictorily opposed beliefs about Jesus Christ or about God or about any other thing?

How can God from creation on have willed that men would fall into sin, worship false gods, become victims of errors and superstitions of all sorts, that they adhere to subtly atheist or pantheist religions such as Buddhism, or to religions cursed by the Old Testament and attributed to demons and demon-worship?

How can God, who wants his disciples to go out and preach to the whole world and baptize them, have willed any Christian heresy, let alone religions that deny the faith of which Jesus says to Nicodemus that he who believes in Him will be saved and he who does not, will be damned (John 3,18)? If we read the Old and the New Testament, or look at the universal teachings of the Church on the divine command, given by Christ himself, to preach the Gospel to all nations, on the necessity of baptism and faith for salvation, etc., the opposite is clearly the case.

How can it then be true that God in His wisdom willed from creation on that many people do not believe in their only Redeemer?

I do not see any artful mental acrobatics capable of denying that this statement not only contains all heresies but also alleges a divine will that a large majority of mankind espouse all kinds of false and non-Christian religious creeds.

Besides, by attributing to God the will that there be religions contradicting His Divine Revelation, instead of attributing to him the will that all nations shall come to believe in the one true God and His Son and our Redeemer, God is turned into a relativist who does not know that there is only one truth and that its opposite cannot be true for different nations, or who does not care whether men believe in truth or falsity. This phrase claims that God wills religious errors.

By signing the statement that God wills a plurality of religions, the Pope defied both fides and ratio and rejected Christianity which is inseparable from the belief in Jesus Christ, who is the unus Dominus. (I assume that also the highest Islamic authorities will expel this Imam because the Islam makes an absolute claim to truth as well).

In fact, if God really “wills all religions,” then he must hate the Catholic Church most of all because of its claim to be the one, Catholic, and apostolic Church and because it rejects in its dogmas and perennial magisterial teachings any relativization of the Christian religion which would turn Christianity into one of many contradictory religions.

In sum: Any Catholic should pray that the Pope convert and reject this horrible sentence in the Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together signed by him and the Great Imam Ahmad Al-Tayyeb, because it undermines all true and beautiful things this document says on brotherhood.

It is neither impossible nor shameful for a Pope to retract errors that he has committed in his non-infallible teachings. The first Pope, instituted by Jesus Christ himself, Peter, did so upon the reprimand of St. Paul during the first Apostolic Council of the Church. Pope John XXII revoked on this deathbed a heresy about separated souls that he had committed in a previous document and that was a second time condemned as heresy by his successor.

Therefore, we have all good reason to hope that Pope Francis will revoke a sentence that constitutes a total break with logic as well as with Biblical and Church teaching.

If he does not do this, I am afraid that Canon Law may apply according to which a Pope automatically loses his Petrine office when professing heresy, especially when he professes the sum-total of all heresies.


Tom A. said...

Everything Bergoglio said in this heretical document can be traced back to Vatican 2. Why are so many people just getting upset now? Why weren't they upset when Montini, Wojtyla, and Ratzinger introduced the same heresies? Why now? And why only single out Bergoglio?

Lazarus Gethsemane said...

Question: What would the AntiChrist do any differently to destroy The Church than what Bergoglio's been doing?

Michael Dowd said...

My guess is Pope Francis would say he based everything he said on Vatican II, along with all his other heresies or near heresies. Vatican II has been a catastrophe for the Church as we have seen over the last 50 years, and even more fully with Pope Francis who has effectively clarified the underlying intent of Vatican II which was to Protestantize the Church. Here is a corroborating statement by Archbishbop Bugnini.

“We must strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren; that is for the Protestants.”
- Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, L'Osservatore Romano, March 19, 1965

Bill Murphy said...

Michael Dowd is spot on in assuming that Francis is basing this appalling declaration on Vatican 2, especially Lumen Gentium and Nostra Aetate. At least, Dr Adam, his academic cheerleader at Georgetown University, attempts the impossible in this ludicrous apologia. As I pointed out in a much longer comment at onepeterfive, I'm sure Georgetown's cooperative attitude towards Islam has absolutely nothing to do with the $20 million+ they have received from Islamic donors....

Incidentally is a terrific compendium site for reading all sorts of anti-Catholic articles by various "Catholics".

Anonymous said...

Exactly JPII appointed Bergoglio. JPII spent 28 years acting like a global TV diva kissing airport runways offering the holy mass at racetracks instead of appointing pious holy men to high church offices he appointed legions of filthy perverts as bishops.

Ana Milan said...

Josef Seifert is putting it up to our silent, accommodating prelature & shambolic secular theologians/canon lawyers who make a fortune from their websites & twitter accounts misleading Catholics into believing that nothing can be done to remove an heretical 'pope' & display great relish in the undermining of the Ten Commandments & Catholic Doctrine. They are as complicit in this apostasy as the main ringleaders. It has now come to the point where these scurrilous apostates will have to be quickly removed & excommunicated by the few remaining prelates who follow the traditional practices & belief of the OHC&A Church:- ++s Brandmüller, Burke, Eijk, Müller, Sarah supported by +s Paprocki, Schneider, Strickland etc. who have warned us against the evil from within, as did many who have gone to their eternal rest. May the clean-out be devastatingly thorough.

Lazarus Gethsemane said...

Canon Law has been fundamentally diluted with the ambiguity of relativism by Vatican II. This was purely intentional by the Novus Ordo heretics in an effort to game the entire paradigm of forcing the provable existence of "heresy" into a pedantic never-ending open-ended exercise of impossible doubt that requires the Law to read the mind of the heretic in some sort of impossible tangible way while ignoring all open heretical actions of the heretic.

Under this Modernist ruse of a definition of provable heresy - virtually NO ONE in history could ever be found guilty of this sin. Not even Judas, Pilate, or Satan himself.

There are some Truths that are so obvious - it takes a Canon Lawyer to deny them

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

The clean-out will never happen. There would be never-ending protests against "haters" in the remaining churches (who knows, perhaps they would all fill up again?). The majority of (progressive nominal) catholics enjoy the new religion. They love a god of mercy, who cares nothing about his own commands, and who does not discriminate (between truth and lie). A god like this makes their progressive lives much more enjoyable than what Jesus Christ is offering. Let us not forget - this progress took over education and media, so that most "catholics" today perceive refusal to celebrate sodomy as inhumane and worthy of criminal prosecution. How long before Bergoglio condemns car-driving and meat-eating as sinful? These dumb, irrational fools don't see a connection between contraception, sodomy and infanticide and euthanasia. They do not see the logical progression between UN Agenda 30 and death panels. Presented with facts, they have been programmed to cover the ears and the eyes and to run to government/corporate overlords for protection from this evil. For the sake of mother earth, they will support infanticide and forced removal of their useless eaters elders from its face.

These masses of useful idiots are on the side of... love, peace, unity, diversity, inclusion and equity. For these goals they will gladly turn churches into vegan restaurants. This is all in progress already, and it will not be stopped, because the "educated" will sooner kill us deplorables than allow us to interfere with the inevitable and necessary.

No clean-up is coming. Only catacombs.

Irenaeus said...

Why now, Tom? I think it's because Francis/Bergoglio is so forward about his embrace of the Council. Plus, he's not generally garbed in pretty vestments and speaks much more roughly than his forebears.

Irenaeus said...

Dorota - All things are possible with God. That being said, I unfortunately share the same concerns as you. Humans and old habits do not part easily from one another.

Michael Dowd said...

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

"The clean-out will never happen."

I agree. Most Catholics(really Protestants) have no big issue with homosexual priests, Pope Francis, Vatican II, Democrat Party Platform, abortions, etc. These are go-along, get-along folks who are more into material comforts including contraception, small families, feel good religion, etc.

The future I see for the Catholic Church is a schism with small group of Traditional Catholics on one side and the vast majority or Protestant Catholics on the other. There could very well be two Popes in this arrangement. I see this as the final arrangement before our Lord comes again.

. said...

Every Pope since John the 23rd can be found in images giving Masonic handshakes including JP 2 and Benedict, there is ample proof just in images the Alta Vendita has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Ultramontanism is our downfall, Francis is not Catholic he needs to go now.

Tom A. said...

Michael, ultramontanism was upheld at Vatican I.

Peter Lamb said...

" I am afraid that Canon Law may apply according to which a Pope automatically loses his Petrine office when professing heresy,..." Actually canon law is not necessary. Divine law has long done the job, but haleluja at long last a public admission that public heresey causes loss of office. Burke has muttered it three times under his breath - but carried on just the same.

Peter Lamb said...

Throughout this post, including comments, shines the realisation that the novus ordo church is not the Catholic Church. Thanks be to God!

Great quote of Bugnini Mike.

Tom A. said...


Anonymous said...

There is always HOPE. Trust totally in the Lord Jesus Christ because Nothing Is Impossible With Our God !!!!!
Good people are at work in prayer and in action.
We do not understand the mind of God, yet He is allowing this purification according to His Will. His timing is not ours.
We are ALL being tested. Perhaps the Angelica threshers are mystically at work ? Pray the Rosary daily and search for God in your heart and not outside of it. If we all cultivate these practices we WILL usher in the social reign of Jesus Christ.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

I agree. Everything is possible with God.
However, God gave us capacity for logical thinking and free will.

We all know that to be considered a good catholic, our bishop of Rome and team demand that we abandon thinking and choose them over Jesus Christ. Many people are eager to comply.

The numbers of faithful Catholics are growing, because the faithful group who even until now were unsure or in denial of the nature of the current pontificate, can not stay undecided anymore. Some of this group will manage to raise faithful children, but there is a limit to the size of the remnant.

Those of us who see objective truth as a constant, look to the real Christ for salvation. Those who see truth as evolving, look to public opinion surveys for guidance. Their "Christ-consciousness" lovingly expands to include all subjective truths, among others those honouring infanticide and death-panels for the old. This new spirit takes humanity to the hive mind via transgenderism and transhumanism. Our "catholic" schools have "toxic" boys wear skirts. [Until recently I was glad that Poland resisted UN's push to implement transgendersim; The truth is that while the allegedly conservative government avoided making unpopular laws, behind the backs of the people it opened all doors to UN indoctrination through schools and companies.]

Consider: In the USA under Trump (could have been Clinton!) two openly practising sodomites calling themselves husband and husband, are asked by a parish priest to stand in front of their church, proudly lifting a small child they have procured, to share the story of their "family". Upon proclaiming that this "family" is as normal as it can get, since Jesus himself had two fathers, the sodomites receive a standing ovation from the gathered parishioners.

The parish people applaud 1) child abuse; 2) two practising sodomites taking offensive and self/sin-serving liberties talking about God - in church; 3) a priest who sets up this abomination in front of the parish - adults, youth and children alike.

This is madness. Our "pastors" support it, they have plotted to implement it, the "pope" bashes anyone who dares to oppose it, calling such a person a destroyer of unity, a hater and a non-Christian.

But I have read/heard about thousands of such examples. This rot is everywhere, and we who oppose it, are probably a group of less than 10%. Haven't we all lost many friends over our rejection of this madness? Some of us here may have lost jobs.

When a few years ago I drove to City Hall to join a protest against the firing by the City of Calgary of a bus driver, a young father, who respectfully asked his supervisor to allow him to drive any bus of the fleet which would not display a sodomy advertisement, I became one of no more than 30 protesters, most of whom were barely able to speak English, engaging in real hate speech. These groups, as we all know, are outside of hate speech laws and under protection.

There were no Catholic there, as far as I could say.

Our rulers have made laws to deprive us of ability to make a living, and to raise children. Our friends (families too) despise us. Our priests are having "listening sessions", where we don't get to speak, while they get to demoralise our youth.

The catacombs await.
God have mercy on us all.

Kathleen1031 said...

Dorota, you have spoken so much truth today, well done. It is all just as you said. We should all just earnestly want to be part of the remnant, which I certainly do.
We can't possibly know what's coming, but whatever it is, may God have mercy on us, Our Lady, protect us.