Friday, 8 February 2019

Bishop Athanasius Schneider corrects the latest Bergoglian Heresy

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+Schneider for Rorate - The Christian Faith: The only valid and the only God-willed religion

Rorate note: Earlier this week, Pope Bergoglio signed the heretical “Document on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together.” If you haven't read the full document, please do, then read the piece below which actually doesn't contradict the Church's teachings or mock the countless Christians martyred over the last 1,400 years. 

Once again, we are honored to post this guest op-ed, submitted to us by His Excellency Bishop Athanasius Schneider. We not only allow but encourage all media and blogs to reprint this as well. 


By Bishop Athanasius Schneider
Special to Rorate Caeli
February 8, 2019

The Gift of Filial Adoption
The Christian Faith: the only valid and the only God-willed religion

The Truth of the filial adoption in Christ, which is intrinsically supernatural, constitutes the synthesis of the entire Divine Revelation. Being adopted by God as sons is always a gratuitous gift of grace, the most sublime gift of God to mankind. One obtains it, however, only through a personal faith in Christ and through the reception of baptism, as the Lord himself taught: “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.” (John 3: 5-7).

In the past decades one often heard - even from the mouth of some representatives of the Church’s hierarchy - statements about the theory of “anonymous Christians.” This theory says the following: The mission of the Church in the world would consist ultimately in raising the awareness that all men must have of their salvation in Christ and consequently of their filial adoption in Christ. Since, according to the same theory, every human being possesses already the sonship of God in the depth of his personality. Yet, such a theory contradicts directly Divine Revelation, as Christ taught it and His Apostles and the Church over two thousand years always transmitted it unchangingly and without a shadow of a doubt.

In his essay “The Church, consisting of Jews and Gentiles” (Die Kirche aus Juden und Heiden) Erik Peterson, the well-known convert and exegete, long since (in 1933) warned against the danger of such a theory, when he affirmed that one cannot reduce being a Christian (“Christsein”) to the natural order, in which the fruits of the redemption achieved by Jesus Christ would be generally imputed to every human being as a kind of heritage, solely because he would share human nature with the incarnated Word. However, filial adoption in Christ is not an automatic result, guaranteed through belonging to the human race.

Saint Athanasius (cf. Oratio contra Arianos II, 59) left us a simple and at the same time an apt explanation of the difference between the natural state of men as God’s creatures and the glory of being a son of God in Christ. Saint Athanasius derives his explanation from the words of the holy Gospel according to John, that say: "He gave them power to be made the sons of God, to them that believe in his name. Who are born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1: 12-13). John uses the expression “they are born” to say that men become sons of God not by nature, but by adoption. This shows the love of God, that He Who is their creator becomes then through grace also their Father. This happens when, as the Apostle says, men receive in their hearts the Spirit of the Incarnated Son, Who cries in them: "Abba, Father!" Saint Athanasius continues his explanation saying, that as created beings, men can become sons of God in no other manner than through faith and baptism, when they receive the Spirit of the natural and true Son of God. Precisely for that reason the Word became flesh, to make men capable of adoption as sons of God and of participation in the Divine nature. Consequently, by nature God is not in the proper sense the Father of all human beings. Only if someone consciously accepts Christ and is baptized, will he be able to cry in truth: "Abba, Father" (Rom. 8: 15; Gal. 4: 6).

Since the beginnings of the Church there was the assertion, as testified by Tertullian: “One is not born as a Christian, but one becomes a Christian” (Apol., 18, 5). And Saint Cyprian of Carthage formulated aptly this truth, saying: «He cannot have God for his Father, who has not the Church for his mother” (De unit., 6).

The most urgent task of the Church in our time is to care about the change of the spiritual climate and about the spiritual migration, namely that the climate of non-belief in Jesus Christ, the climate of the rejection of the kingship of Christ, be changed into the climate of explicit faith in Jesus Christ, of the acceptance of His kingship, and that men may migrate from the misery of the spiritual slavery of unbelief into the happiness of being sons of God and from of a life of sin into the state of sanctifying grace. These are the migrants about whom we must care urgently.

Christianity is the only God-willed religion. Therefore, it can never be placed complementarily side by side with other religions. Those would violate the truth of Divine Revelation, as it is unmistakably affirmed in the First Commandment of the Decalogue, who would assert that the diversity of religions is the will of God.  According to the will of Christ, faith in Him and in His Divine teaching must replace other religions, however not by force, but by loving persuasion, as expressed in the hymn of Lauds of the Feast of Christ the King: “Non Ille regna cladibus, non vi metuque subdidit: alto levatus stipite, amore traxit omnia” (“Not with sword, force and fear He subjects peoples, but lifted up on the Cross He lovingly draws all things to Himself”).

There is only one way to God, and this is Jesus Christ, for He Himself said: “I am the Way” (John 14: 6). There is only one truth, and this is Jesus Christ, for He Himself said: “I am the Truth” (John 14: 6). There is only one true supernatural life of the soul, and this is Jesus Christ, for He Himself said: “I am the Life” (John 14: 6).

The Incarnated Son of God taught that outside faith in Him there cannot be a true and God-pleasing religion: “I am the door. By me, if any man enters in, he shall be saved” (John 10: 9). God commanded to all men, without exception, to hear His Son: “This is my most beloved Son; hear Him!” (Mk. 9: 7). God did not say: “You can hear My Son or you can hear other founders of a religion, for it is My will that there are different religions.” God has forbidden us to recognize the legitimacy of the religion of other gods: “Thou shalt not have strange gods before me” (Ex. 20: 3) and “What fellowship has light with darkness? And what concord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has the faithful with the unbeliever? And what agreement has the temple of God with idols?” (2 Cor. 6: 14-16).
If other religions likewise corresponded to the will of God, there would not have been the Divine condemnation of the religion of the Golden Calf at the time of Moses (cf. Ex. 32: 4-20); then the Christians of today could unpunished cultivate the religion of a new Golden Calf, since all religions are, according to that theory, God-pleasing ways as well.

God gave the Apostles and through them the Church for all times the solemn order to instruct all nations and the followers of all religions in the only one true Faith, teaching them to observe all His Divine commandments and baptize them (cf. Mt. 28: 19-20). Since the preaching of the Apostles and of the first Pope, the Apostle Saint Peter, the Church proclaimed always that there is salvation in no other name, i.e., in no other faith under heaven by which men must be saved, but in the Name and in the Faith in Jesus Christ (cf. Acts 4: 12).

With the words of Saint Augustine the Church taught in all times: “The Christian religion is the only religion which possesses the universal way for the salvation of the soul; for except by this way, none can be saved. This is a kind of royal way, which alone leads to a kingdom which does not totter like all temporal dignities, but stands firm on eternal foundations.” (De civitate Dei, 10, 32, 1).

The following words of the great Pope Leo XIII testify the same unchanging teaching of the Magisterium in all times, when he affirmed: “The view that all religions are alike, is calculated to bring about the ruin of all forms of religion, and especially of the Catholic religion, which, as it is the only one that is true, cannot, without great injustice, be regarded as merely equal to other religions.” (Encyclical Humanum genus, n. 16)

In recent times the Magisterium presented substantially the same unchanging teaching in the Document “Dominus Jesus” (August 6, 2000), from which we quote the following relevant assertions:

“Theological faith (the acceptance of the truth revealed by the One and Triune God) is often identified with belief in other religions, which is religious experience still in search of the absolute truth and still lacking assent to God who reveals himself. This is one of the reasons why the differences between Christianity and the other religions tend to be reduced at times to the point of disappearance.” (n. 7) Those solutions that propose a salvific action of God beyond the unique mediation of Christ would be contrary to Christian and Catholic faith.” (n. 14) “Not infrequently it is proposed that theology should avoid the use of terms like “unicity”, “universality”, and “absoluteness”, which give the impression of excessive emphasis on the significance and value of the salvific event of Jesus Christ in relation to other religions. In reality, however, such language is simply being faithful to revelation” (n. 15) “It is clear that it would be contrary to the faith to consider the Church as one way of salvation alongside those constituted by the other religions, seen as complementary to the Church or substantially equivalent to her, even if these are said to be converging with the Church toward the eschatological kingdom of God.” (n. 21) “The faith rules it out, in a radical way, that mentality of indifferentism “characterized by a religious relativism which leads to the belief that ‘one religion is as good as another' (John Paul IIEncyclical Letter Redemptoris missio, 36).” (n. 22)

The Apostles and the countless Christian martyrs of all times, especially those of the first three centuries, would have been spared martyrdom, if they had said: “The pagan religion and its worship is a way, which as well corresponds to the will of God.” There would have been for instance no Christian France, no “Eldest Daughter of the Church,” if Saint Remigius had said to Clovis, the King of the Francs: “Do not despise your pagan religion you have worshiped up to now,and worship now Christ, Whom you have persecuted up to now.” The saintly bishop actually spoke differently, although in a rather rough way: “Worship what you burned, and burn what you have worshiped!”

True universal brotherhood can be only in Christ, and namely between baptized persons. The full glory of God’s sons will be attained only in the beatific vision of God in heaven, as Holy Scripture teaches: “See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.” (1 John 3: 1-2). 

No authority on earth – not even the supreme authority of the Church – has the right to dispense people from other religions from the explicit Faith in Jesus Christ as the Incarnated Son of God and the only Savior of mankind with the assurance that the different religions as such are willed by God Himself. Indelible – because written with the finger of God and crystal-clear in their meaning – remain, however, the words of the Son of God: “Whoever believes in the Son of God is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God” (John 3: 18). This truth was valid up to now in all Christian generations and will remain valid until the end of time, irrespective of the fact that some people in the Church of our so fickle, cowardly, sensationalist, and conformist time reinterpret this truth in a sense contrary to its evident wordingselling thereby this reinterpretation as continuity in the development of doctrine.

Outside the Christian Faith no other religion can be a true and God-willed way, since this is the explicit will of God, that all people believe in His Son: “This is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life” (John 6: 40). Outside the Christian Faith no other religion is able to transmit true supernatural life: “This is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent” (John 17: 3).

+ Athanasius Schneider, Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana


Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

We are joyous and grateful to hear a Bishop confirm what we have believed since before our First Communion. This joy or relief is a testimony to the injustice and harm we have been suffering by the hands of the anti-Christs in our Church.

Aqua said...

Joseph Seifert speculates that the Pope professes in this inter-religious pluralism document the "sum-total Of all heresies". And thereby, if he fails to recant them, he automatically loses the Petrine Office.

He must be removed in this way before he willingly does what his predecessor did: partially resign. We must get back willingly on correct footing. I believe God is opening this door as a Grace; a *chance* to make this right before true lasting damage is done. It doesn't get any more clear than this.

I have always felt that the gravest problem with this ongoing precedent partial resignation and subsequent bifurcated Papacy is the stunning re-making of the Petrine Office itself into a bifurcated *spiritual* and *active* component. Thus remade, the new Papal paradigm is for future Popes to resign the "active" portion (Bishop of the Roman Dioscese) when age or interest or politics suggest it necessary.

That precedent, above all things, must not stand. We cannot accept *active Munus" partial resignation while "remaining firmly within the enclosure of St. Peter forever and always" as normal.

Bergoglio will likely resign and it will be, far from good, the most damaging thing he has done yet.

We (someone in authority) must take the Office away canonically (the Pope is not Catholic) for clear canonical reasons and return the Office of St. Peter to its proper devoutly Catholic, father of us all, sole-occupant, lifetime footing: Pope in full, Pope for life, Vicar Of Christ, shared by no other man, good or bad, the Office is his - one among the long line of others.

TLM said...

Alleluia! Thank God for Cardinal Muller! I read this on Lifesite a little while ago....both H and I have signed the petition in support of this Catholic Manifesto. Retweeted this a few times. We need to support and promote this as much as we possibly can! And....pray for Cardinal Muller and Bishop Schneider who has also come out with a statement that refutes Bergolio's 'God wills all religions' garbage. Pray for their protection....they now have a target on their backs. May Our Blessed Mother keep them and all prelates and clerics safely under her Mantle!

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Dear Friends,
I have a request.
Upon reading from the online Catechism of the Catholic Church, I am in disbelief at what I am seeing. Could you help? Is the following correct? Has the Church always taught that we become gods through Christ?

Chapter 2
460 [...]
For the Son of God became man so that we might become God."80 "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."

I feel horrible about this. Help.

Dan said...

Dorota, thanks for pointing that out. I know what I'm going to do.... Francis had better watch out.

But it does seem like it should have said "like God" or more "God-like."

Dan said...

Interestingly several of the religions that Francis claims that God wills, do teach something that ultimately the soul and God become one.

TLM said...

Dorota.....WHAT in the H_ _ _? I am going to see if I can get on to that site and figure it out.

Tom A. said...

I find it incredulous that so many traditionally minded faithful continue to be decieved by the like of Novus Ordo clergy such as Schneider, Burke, Muller, and Benedict. These modernists defend Vatican 2 by claiming to interpret it in light of tradition. Not sure what that means, but trads seem to jump for this fake lure like a trout on an early April morning jumps for knotted strings. Vatican 2 needs no interpretation. It is quite clear that Vatican 2 calls for a radical change of essence for "pastoral" reasons. This "logic" basically gives them free reign to alter everything and anything to keep pace with the modern world. These so called "heroes" that some trads ask us to pray for are merely those who support a traditional way of interpreting a heretical document. Please fellow trads, take the time to understand modernism and stop looking for modernist (like Schneider or Muller) to put the Church back on track. It was Ratzinger after all who was there at the Council pushing the "subsists" heresy. Yet still countless so called trads long for the days of his heretical "papacy." Stop letting your emotiona get the best of your judgment. All these modernists, whether they choose the red shoes or magna cappas or not are heretics! Pray for the conversion and nothing more.

Michael Ortiz said...

Dorota—that is basically St Augustine saying God wants his human creatures to become his adoptive children thru the grace of Christ. It’s a rhetorical flourish expressing an essential truth found among many places in the Fathers and of course in St John’s Prologue. Pax tibi!

Tom A. said...

Here is a good example of the "good bishop's" modernist heresy on display.

"Outside the Christian Faith no other religion can be a true and God-willed way, since this is the explicit will of God, that all people believe in His Son: “This is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life” (John 6: 40). Outside the Christian Faith no other religion is able to transmit true supernatural life: “This is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent” (John 17: 3)."

To the ears of conservative NO this sounds orthodox. But as a traditionalist, this is heresy. Schneider uses the phrase "Christian faith" as opposed to saying the Catholic Church. There is absolutely nothing in what Schneider has wrote in his letter that any protestant would find offensive. The truth is there is but one God-willed religion and that is the Catholic Church, the one founded by Our Lord Himself, the one outside of which there is no salvation. Did Schneider remind anyone of that truth?

Peter Lamb said...

Dear Aqua, These heretical conciliar "popes" have long been excommunicated and deposed by Divine Law. Canonical deposition is only for purposes of Church governance. It is not necessary for loss of office and all authority. Note how schneider consistently substitutes "Christian Faith" for Catholic Faith. Only Catholics are Christians - they follow Christ. When the term was coined in Alexandria, only Catholics existed. These other protestant "christians" follow luther, or calvin, or any of 40,000 others.So many continue to wallow in the trough of novus ordo swill. Schneider, burke, ratzinger all have sworn allegiance to anti-Christ bergoglio. They march with hitler. They are nazis. Why are so few Catholics prepared to be faithful to the indefectible, unambiguous Catholic Faith? Ignorance? Certainly for many. Cowardice? Certainly for many. Fear of loss of human respect? Certainly for many. Love of comfort? Certainly for many. Itchy ears? Certainly for many. Be done with the liars and deceivers! Be done with the whited sepulchers! Be done with the filthy novus ordo church and its satanic, judeo-masonic minions. Be a Catholic and let the slime be anathema!!!

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

This is encouraging. The first Atahansius stood agasint the world while this Athanasius stands against he worldly church

TLM said...

Yes Dorota, I finally found it. The way it is worded is truly blasphemous. The only way to look at this is that this 'new and revised' catechism is the reflection of the 'new anti church' that is inside the true Catholic Church. Lord help us! Lord have MERCY on us!

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

Sant Ignatius of Antioch. A.D. 110 "Letter to the Magnesians

...Christianity did not base its faith on Judaism, but Judaism on Christianity...

There are a few who show-up in the comment section who are riven with hatred to such a point that they will attack perfectly innocent and correct verbiage used by a Faithful and Orthodox Catholic Bishop.

Yes. lets all throw-in with the sedes whose ignorance nearly matches their vile hatred. Who wants to live like that?

O, and no Pope is deposed by Divine Law - if that were true, then why was Nestorius still Pope when he died?

Irenaeus said...

If we scrutinize every prelate's actions for modernism, we will never be pleased. Take it as the God-send it is, and move on.

We have become such masters of suspicion that we unable to savor the small victories we do get.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Thank you, everyone.

When I was doubting the Church, before I came back in humility, I mistakenly thought that the only way I could accept God was IF the Holy Trinity meant God-head, each Son/Daughter become god, and Wisdom joining the Two to become one and the same. I actually thought of it myself, as a very young person.

But this is NOT what the Church has always taught. I believe that this is inspired by the devil, as Teilhard de Chardin was. For me as a child to be unable to have simple faith, and to construct this Oneness that decades later Bergoglio is constructing for us all, smells of the devil to me.

When (if) we are resurrected and taken to heaven, we are still distinct from our Creator, as Angels are. They are not, and we are not gods. We worship God. God never spoke of us as gods in His Holy Word. Has He? There must be a very good reason for it.

Last night I searched through the Catechism to correct a person confused by New Age, but what I found supports their mistake rather than the understanding I wanted to convey. I called my brother in Poland. He checked, and it was the same in his Polish language catechism published in... 1994. He was shocked too. I understand this was borrowed from Thomas Aquinas, but it was most likely not intended to mean what the Catechism seems to be saying out of context. Unfortunately, this can easily be used to mislead. Perhaps it was the purpose all along.

Aqua said...

Dorota: I refer you to the letter from Cardinal Mueller who discusses this crucial point.

Page 1, Par 2 he discusses the Church; how Christ is the head, we are the body.

We are individual souls in heaven. We are also, mystically, one body in Christ: an analogy and also a reality.

We must be one, as he and the Father are one. Refer to the "unity prayer" of Jesus at his Passion John 17: 20-23.

I see the answer to your question (which I have also had; St. Augustine too) in these ways.

Peter Lamb said...

"O, and no Pope is deposed by Divine Law"

Little Mark, you are as ignorant as you are heretical:

Vatican I declared, “For the fathers of the Fourth Council of Constantinople, following closely in the footsteps of their predecessors, made this solemn profession:

"The first condition of salvation is to keep the norm of the true Faith. For it is impossible that the words of our Lord Jesus Christ Who said, ‘Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church’ (Matt. 16:18), should not be verified. And their truth has been proved by the course of history, for in the Apostolic See the Catholic religion has always been kept unsullied, and its teaching kept holy.’ …for they fully realized that this See of St. Peter always remains unimpaired by any error, according to the divine promise of our Lord and Savior made to the prince of his disciples, ‘I have prayed for thee, that thy faith may not fail; and do thou, when once thou has turned again, strengthen thy brethren’ (Luke 22:32)

So, this gift of truth and a never failing faith was divinely conferred upon Peter and his successors in this chair, that they might administer their high duty for the salvation of all; that the entire flock of Christ, turned away by them from the poisonous food of error, might be nourished on the sustenance of heavenly doctrine, that with the occasion of schism removed the whole Church might be saved as one, and relying on her foundation might stay firm against the gates of hell.”

The topic of a pope becoming a heretic was addressed at the First Vatican Council by Archbishop Purcell, of Cincinnati, Ohio: “The question was also raised by a Cardinal, ‘What is to be done with the Pope if he becomes a heretic?’ It was answered that there has never been such a case; the Council of Bishops could depose him for heresy, for from the moment he becomes a heretic he is not the head or even a member of the Church. The Church would not be, for a moment, obliged to listen to him when he begins to teach a doctrine the Church knows to be a false doctrine, and he would cease to be Pope, being deposed by God Himself.

“If the Pope, for instance, were to say that the belief in God is false, you would not be obliged to believe him, or if he were to deny the rest of the creed, ‘I believe in Christ,’ etc. The supposition is injurious to the Holy Father in the very idea, but serves to show you the fullness with which the subject has been considered and the ample thought given to every possibility. If he denies any dogma of the Church held by every true believer, he is no more Pope than either you or I; and so in this respect the dogma of infallibility amounts to nothing as an article of temporal government or cover for heresy.”(The New Princeton Review, Volume 42 p. 648, also The Life and Life-work of Pope Leo XIII. By James Joseph McGovern p. 241.)

Peter Lamb said...

St. Francis de Sales: – “Now when the Pope is explicitly a heretic, he
falls ipso facto from his dignity and out of the Church . . . ”

St. Robert Bellarmine: – “A Pope who is a manifest heretic
automatically ceases to be a Pope and head, just as he ceases
automatically to be a Christian and a member of the Church. Wherefore,
he can be judged and punished by the Church. This is the teaching of
all the ancient Fathers who teach that manifest heretics immediately
lose all jurisdiction.”

St. Alphonsus Liguori: – “If ever a Pope, as a private person, should
fall into heresy, he should at once fall from the Pontificate. If,
however, God were to permit a pope to become a notorious and
contumacious heretic, he would by such fact cease to be pope, and the
apostolic chair would be vacant.”

St. Antoninus: – “In the case in which the Pope would become a
heretic, he would find himself, by that very fact alone and without
any other sentence, separated from the Church. A head separated from a
body cannot, as long as it remains separated, be head of the same body
from which it was cut off.”

Peter Lamb said...

Coronata — Institutions Juris Canonici, 1950 – “Appointment to the
Office of the Primacy. 1. What is required by divine law for this
appointment . . . Also required for validity is that the one elected
be a member of the Church; hence, heretics and apostates (at least
public ones) are excluded. . . It cannot be proven however that the
Roman Pontiff, as a private teacher, cannot become a heretic — if, for
example, he would contumaciously deny a previously defined dogma. Such
impeccability was never promised by God. Indeed, Pope Innocent III
expressly admits such a case is possible. If indeed such a situation
would happen, he [the Roman Pontiff] would, by divine law, fall from
office without any sentence, indeed, without even a declaratory one.
He who openly professes heresy places himself outside the Church, and
it is not likely that Christ would preserve the Primacy of His Church
in one so unworthy. Wherefore, if the Roman Pontiff were to profess
heresy, before any condemnatory sentence (which would be impossible
anyway) he would lose his authority.

Billot — De Ecclesia, 1927 – “Given, therefore, the hypothesis of a
pope who would become notoriously heretical, one must concede without
hesitation that he would by that very fact lose the pontifical power,
insofar as, having become an unbeliever, he would by his own will be
cast outside the body of the Church.”

Peter Lamb said...

Wernz-Vidal — Canon Law, 1943 – “Through notorious and openly divulged
heresy, the Roman Pontiff, should he fall into heresy, by that very
fact (ipso facto) is deemed to be deprived of the power of
jurisdiction even before any declaratory judgment by the Church… A
Pope who falls into public heresy would cease ipso facto to be a
member of the Church; therefore, he would also cease to be head of the
Church.” And also: “A doubtful pope is no pope.”

A. Vermeersch — Epitome Iuris Canonici, 1949 –
“At least according to the more common teaching; the Roman Pontiff as
a private teacher can fall into manifest heresy. Then, without any
declaratory sentence (for the Supreme See is judged by no one), he
would automatically (ipso facto) fall from power which he who is no
longer a member of the Church is unable to possess.”

On the general topic of admonition, The Catholic Encyclopedia writes, among other things, the following:
“Since contumacy implies obstinate persistence in crime, in order to become liable to these punishments a person must not only be guilty of crime, but must also persist in his criminal course after having been duly warned and admonished. This warning (monitio canonica), which must precede the punishment, can emanate either from the law itself or from the ecclesiastical superior or judge. Contumacy can therefore occur in one of two ways: first, when the delinquent does not heed the warning of his ecclesiastical superior or judge, addressed to him personally and individually; second, when he violates a law of the Church with full knowledge of the law, and of the censure attached, in the latter case the law itself being a standing warning to all (Lex interpellat pro homine).”

the Encyclopedia’s statement that a pope would become a public heretic “were he publicly and officially to teach some doctrine clearly opposed to what has been defined as de fide catholicâ“.

We should be content with the principle of Nullam Partem ["no part"] with heretics,

Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.
(Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam Sanctam [1302]; Denz. 469)

Catholic Mission said...

FEBRUARY 9, 2019
The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II

We have a dramatic, extraordinary and new understanding of Vatican Council II which was always there before our very eyes but no one noticed it.Or if they did, they kept quiet.
The 50- year- old stereotypes of Vatican Council II being a revolution etc are over.
'The red is not an exception to the blue'. This is the new code.It is the hidden clue.
The old one was 'The red is an exception to the blue'.
Everything hinges on this.
The New Theology was based upon the red being a rupture with the orthodox blue.
We now know that the red passages are hypothetical. Always hypothetical.
They are only possibilities, theoretical and speculative.
They do not refer to personally known people in 2018-2019.
'Zero cases of something cannot be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)' confirms John Martignoni , the apologist at EWTN.Archbishop Thomas E Gullickson papal nuncio to Switzerland and Liechtenstein and Fr.Stefano Visintin osb, theologian-physicist and rector of the University of St. Anselm, Rome - AGREE WITH HIM.
The passages in red are 'zero cases'.
They do not contradict the past exclusive ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. The Council is no more a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX or the teaching on all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation ( Catechism of Pope Pius X ).
The red never was an exception to the blue.But this was how the liberals and ecclesiastics interpreted the Council and the conservatives and traditionalists, wrongly followed.
Now we know that the blue is no more contradicted by red passages in Lumen Gentium 8 as was suggested by Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, at the Placquet Deo , Press conference ( March 1, 2018).
The blue passages and EENS are no more contradicted by the red passages in LG 16 and GS 22 of Vatican Council II. This was a mistake Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria made in two papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican.They were wrong and Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston was correct.
Fr. Leonard Feeney was saying that there are no literal cases of the baptism of desire(LG 14) etc. The red does not refer to literal cases and so could not have been practical exceptions, or even relevant, to EENS.
This means our entire understanding of Vatican Council II has changed. Move over Bugnini and Bea. The Council has gone back to 'the pre-Vatican Council II times'. The 'Conciliar Church' today is traditional and Feeneyite.This is a whopper for the prudent and politically correct within the Church.
It is Vatican Council II which is part of the seismic shift and it is not just going back to Tradition and EENS.The Council has changed before our very eyes.
'The red is not an exception to the blue.' I like that sound.
'The red is not an exception to the blue'. Mama mia! Everything has changed. This is unbelievable!.
-Lionel Andrades

JANUARY 28, 2019
In Magisterial documents the red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : with the blue there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition (16th- century extra ecclesium nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, past exclusivist ecclesiology etc)

FEBRUARY 4, 2019
Nei documenti magistrali il rosso non è un'eccezione al blu, il rosso non contraddice il blu: con il blu c'è un'ermeneutica di continuità con la Tradizione (extra ecclesium nulla salus del 16 ° secolo , Sillabo degli Errori di Pio IX, ecumenismo del ritorno, esclusivista ecclesiologia ecc. )

Dan said...

Dorota, your comment reminds me. When I was a child I kind of thought that the Trinity was Jesus as the Son, Santa Clause as the Father, and Casper as the Holy Ghost.

mazara said...

Peter Lamb said...

Dear Mazara, I had a look. It seems it's to send him prayer intentions. Would you ask him two questions and report his reply?
1. Can an heretic be Pope?
2. Is Pope Francis an heretic?

Best wishes.

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

In this long article in The Catholic Encyclopedia, one read that Pope Honorius was condemned as a heretic.

Yes, he as both a Pope and a heretic and there is not one word- NOT ONE - from the Council that condemned him that he automatically lost his office owing to his heresy.

Some in here are aught but the schismatic hounds baying each time their Pope, Mario Derksen, over at Novus Ordo Watch Sedevacantist Sectarian City ring shis rhetorical bell.

Tye copy him word for word...

Sure it is funny and sad but it makes them feel manly :)

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

One can see the copy and paste work by Mr. Lamb who dutifully copies and repeats the errors of his Pope Mario Derksen at Novus Ordo Watch Sedevacnatist Sectarian City

It does n matters to Lamb that Mario is leading him to Hell, he just echoes the lies and partial quotes of Derksen

Peter Lamb said...

Little Mark,
You are in a sad way. Why not read Magisterial teaching and accept and submit to it like any good Catholic? Be upright enough to admit you were wrong and apply Catholic doctrine to your thinking, if you are a Catholic. What do you hope to achieve by being stupid, insulting, rude, heretical and always spewing bile and venom? Your standard response when you are proved wrong is to deflect to a shoal of red herrings, or to build a stack of straw men, or to start cursing.
I call you Little Mark because you are a tiny carbon copy of Big Mark who I'm sure all long-time readers of this blog will well remember. Big Mark was a master of his trade where you are still an apprentice. He was more intelligent, more effective and a thousand times more irritating than you are. Plain stupid is not so irritating. As a novus ordite trog you are not much good. Big Mark leaves you standing. I pray for you Mark. Saul became St. Paul and you could do the same. Be as nasty as you like, but lay off the heresy. Here is a special cut and paste for you:

“The crowning disloyalty to God is heresy. It is the sin of sins, the very loathsomest of things which God looks down upon in this malignant world. Yet how little do we understand of its excessive hatefulness!… “We look at it, and are calm. We touch it and do not shudder. We mix with it, and have no fear. We see it touch holy things, and we have no sense of sacrilege… “Our charity is untruthful because it is not severe; and it is unpersuasive, because it is not truthful… Where there is no hatred of heresy, there is no holiness." (Fr. Faber.)

So let's turn over a new leaf. Let's be civil and talk Catholicism. Who knows maybe we get to be pals. Stranger things have happened. :)

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

Peter Lamb.

You are so lost in diabloclai deception and delusion that you don't even realise you begin by calling ABS...

stupid, insulting, rude, heretical and always spewing bile and venom? Your standard response when you are proved wrong is to deflect to a shoal of red herrings, or to build a stack of straw men, or to start cursing.

and then you begin to talk about charity Let's be civil and talk Catholicism

It is quite clear you are delusional and hypocritical to a profound degree.

Vox Cantoris said...



Got it?

Aqua said...


Awsome blog. One of the best.

Nice job moderating the comments, too. Not easy; appreciated.

Vox Cantoris said...

I like it freewheeling but there is a point when the teacher needs to blow the whistle.