Jorge Bergoglio has subverted Catholic doctrine, even the neo-Cath media have to admit it - Holy Communion for adulterers can be given. Whether priests have done this illicitly and sinfully is not the issue, they will be held accountable for the sacrilege and leaving people in their sins, never in history as a Bishop of Rome authorised this.
The Amoris Latrine is not magisterial as Cardinal Burke has stated. It is not magisterial because it breaks with the past.
You, as a Catholic, have no choice but to resist and condemn this action on the part of the Bishop or Rome. It is not his Church, it is Christ's Church. Jorge Bergoglio is not Christ, it is not his Church and you and I as Catholics have a commission and a responsibility to resist him, the malefactors around him and to denounce his evil actions as outlined in the love latrine.
Where in the name of all that is Holy are our bishops and cardinals to stand up and denounce this pope and his actions?
Is it always up to us?
Read!
http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/88cd932e0fb30da936d547131dbddacf-571.html
Situation Ethics Enshrined - Q & A on Francis' Amoris Laetitia
20/04/16 08:49
Situation Ethics Enshrined
Francis’ Amoris Laetitia
A simple Q & A on Certain Aspects of the Post-Synodal Exhortation
By John Vennari
www.cfnews.org
What is Amoris Laetitia?
Amoris Laetitia (the “Joy of Love”) is the much anticipated post-Synodal Apostolic Exhortation of Pope Francis on marriage and the family. Released on April 6, it runs 260 pages, approximately 59,000 words. Father George Rutler, wryly commenting on the exorbitant length of modern Vatican documents, notes that Francis’ text “is nearly two-thirds the length of all the Vatican II promulgations.”
What are we to think of Amoris Laetitia?
Respected Italian journalist Antonio Socci wrote: “The Apostolic Exhortation is an open act challenging two thousand years of Catholic teaching. And in Catholic circles people are shocked and struck dumb in bewilderment.” Raymond Cardinal Burke, in a somewhat subdued response, called the document a “personal reflection of the Pope” that is “not [to be] confused with the binding faith owed to the exercise of the magisterium.” The eminent Professor Roberto De Mattei said, “If the text is catastrophic, even more catastrophic is the fact that it was signed by the Vicar of Christ.” These assessments are accurate.
Should we be surprised?
Anyone who followed the tumultuous 2014 and 2015 Synods will not be surprised at the Exhortation. The Synods, the synod press conferences, the synodal texts and the newly-released Exhortation represent one steady stream of modernist revolution.
What is a key problem with the document?
Amidst great drifts of verbiage – some not bad, some remarkably tedious – Francis effectively canonizes situation ethics. He furtively opens the door for Communion to the divorced and remarried on a ‘case-by-case’ basis, which destroys key elements of Catholic Moral Theology. In particular, his approach undermines recognition of intrinsically disordered acts, and once this is undermined in one area, it is undermined in all areas. Progressivists immediately celebrated Amoris Laetitia as a “radical shift.”
19 comments:
"Should we be surprised? Anyone who followed the tumultuous 2014 and 2015 Synods will not be surprised at the Exhortation."
I am very surprised as on February 17, 2016 A.D., a reporter asked His Holiness Pope Francis whether divorced and "remarried" Catholics may receive Holy Communion. Pope Francis declared in clear and unmistakable terms that said Catholics may not receive Holy Communion.
Therefore, we have a recent and undeniable declaration from Pope Francis directly that (unrepentant) Catholics who have divorced and entered into new unions are forbidden to receive Holy Communion.
https://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2016/february/documents/papa-francesco_20160217_messico-conferenza-stampa.html
When asked whether divorced and "remarried" Catholics may receive Holy Communion, Pope Francis declared:
"This is something... this is where it hits home. Being integrated into the Church does not mean “taking communion”. I know remarried Catholics who go to Church once or twice a year: “I want to receive communion!”, as if communion were a commendation. It is a matter of integration... the doors are all open.
"But one cannot just say: from now on “they can take communion”.
"This would also wound the spouses, the couple, because it won’t help them on the path to integration.
"These two were happy! They used a really lovely expression: “We do not take eucharistic communion, but we do find communion by visiting people in the hospital, in this or that service...”. Their integration is there."
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Dear Vox,
It is so hard to read your posts that show white typeface on yellow background.
I love your blog. Maybe it's my phone.
Thanks,
Christine
"Should we be surprised? Anyone who followed the tumultuous 2014 and 2015 Synods will not be surprised at the Exhortation."
Again, I am very surprised as Cardinal Schonborn declared that in Amoris Laetitia, there is "no break" and "no change" in Church teaching in regard to whether (unrepentant) divorced and "remarried" Catholics may receive Holy Communion.
Any interpretation that differs from that is at odds with that which His Holiness has declared.
Therefore, I will take Pope Francis at his word. He declared on February 17, 2016 A.D., that divorced and "remarried" Catholics may not receive Holy Communion.
Pope Francis declared last week that we should refer to Cardinal Schonborn's presentation of Amoris Laetitia. In turn, Cardinal Schonborn said that Amoris Laetitia is in line with Familiaris Consortio. Cardinal Schonborn added that Amoris Laetitia does not "break" with or "change" the Church's teaching in question.
Therefore, I am very surprised that anybody would claim that Amoris Laetitia has overthrown Church teaching.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
It's time for a campaign of faithful Catholics to call, write, email, tweet, stand in St. Peters Square, and chant the slogan: "Amoris Laetitia stercora est!"
We can do it.
Spread the stercore!
"Should we be surprised? Anyone who followed the tumultuous 2014 and 2015 Synods will not be surprised at the Exhortation."
Vox-permitting, to offer a final repose to John Vennari's question...yes, I am surprised.
From #46 of Pope Francis' Encyclical Lumen Fidei: Pope Francis said that the Catechism of the Catholic Church "is a fundamental aid for that unitary act with which the Church communicates the entire content of her faith: all that she herself is, and all that she believes".
The CCC upholds the Church's traditional teaching on the issue of Holy Communion for divorced and "remarried" Catholics.
CCC #1650: "Today there are numerous Catholics in many countries who have recourse to civil divorce and contract new civil unions. In fidelity to the words of Jesus Christ - "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another, commits adultery against her; and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery" the Church maintains that a new union cannot be recognized as valid, if the first marriage was.
"If the divorced are remarried civilly, they find themselves in a situation that objectively contravenes God's law. Consequently, they cannot receive Eucharistic communion as long as this situation persists.
"For the same reason, they cannot exercise certain ecclesial responsibilities. Reconciliation through the sacrament of Penance can be granted only to those who have repented for having violated the sign of the covenant and of fidelity to Christ, and who are committed to living in complete continence."
Therefore, based upon Pope Francis' statement that the CCC teaches the True Faith, I will then adhere to #1650, which by his very words about the CCC, Pope Francis has called us to embrace.
CCC #1650 is the teaching that Pope Francis, by his very words about the Catechism of the Catholic Church, upholds.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Yes Mark, the Holy Father and those surrounding him absolutely have professed the true teaching of the Church, only to turn around and deny it. It is the M.O. of modernists. It's what they do.
With Amoris Laeititia's 'situation ethics', 'subjectivism' and 'known exceptions to mortal sin', the traditional doctrine on mortal sin, salvation, receiving the Eucharist and sacrilege has been changed
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/04/with-amoris-laeititias-situation-ethics.html
The same thing happens to me with my phone (Android)!
TLM said..."Yes Mark, the Holy Father and those surrounding him absolutely have professed the true teaching of the Church, only to turn around and deny it."
TLM, at least in regard to Holy Communion for Catholics who divorced and entered into new unions, His Holiness Pope Francis has not denied that teaching.
There are Churchmen and laity who have interpreted Amoris Laetitia that way. But that interpretation contradicts undeniably that which Pope Francis has declared publicly.
Again, Pope Francis declared clearly that divorced and "remarried" Catholics may not receive Holy Communion. He declared that publicly.
Therefore, numerous Cardinals (such as Christoph Schönborn and Raymond Burke), bishops, priests, religious, and laymen have declared that Amoris Laetitia is in keeping with Church teachings that do not permit unrepentant divorced and "remarried" Catholics to receive Holy Communion. Based upon Pope Francis' clear words on that issue, that is the only legitimate interpretation that one may apply to the Pope's Exhortation.
Should Pope Francis repudiate his clear and public teaching in question, then he Church would plunge the Church into an unimaginable crisis. But Pope Francis' clear and public words prohibit (unrepentant) divorced and "remarried" Catholics from receiving Holy Communion.
TLM, unless Pope Francis says otherwise, that is the only legitimate manner in which to interpret Amoris Laetitia.
Pax.
Mark Thomaw
The yellow on white must be on your phone. They are cut and paste from others.
Sadly, within the Church, it has been brother against brother in regard to our understanding of Amoris Laetitia. I appreciate that Pope Francis is frustrated in that he believes that Cardinal Schnoborn presented to us the proper understanding of Amoris Laetitia. He is upset that his Exhortation has been reduced to the question of Communion for divorced and "remarried" Catholics.
Pope Francis referred us to Cardinal Schonborn's presentation of the Exhortation. In turn, Cardinal Schonborn stated that Amoris Laetitia does not break with Church teaching.
However, the key problem is that certain Churchmen have gone beyond that which Cardinal Schonborn presented in regard to the Exhortation. Yes, the Pope is correct in that the news media have played their usual games in regard to having misrepresented a Church document. But in fairness to the news media, various Churchmen have played that game with Amoris Laetitia. We are back to where we started when controversy erupted in regard to the Exhortation.
Therefore, Pope Francis must correct publicly those who have presented Amoris Laetitia as having broken with Church teaching.
Pope Francis, unless he has overthrown his February 17, 2016 A.D. declaration that prohibited Holy Communion to divorced and "remarried" Catholics, must declare publicly that the Exhortation upholds Church teaching.
We just cannot continue to have brother vs. brother in regard to Amoris Laetitia. We are Catholics. We are brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ. God gifted up with the Papacy to unite and confirm us in the clear, unmistakable, unambiguous Truth.
It is obvious that Pope Francis' response last week...that we need to refer to Cardinal Schonborn's presentation of Amoris Laetitia...has not stemmed the controversy that has surrounded his Exhortation.
It is unbelievable to me that of all religions, we, the True Religion, have the Papacy...but we are mired in controversy over a Papal document. That does make any sense to me.
I beg His Holiness to end the controversy in question. He must respond to his brother Churchmen who have employed his Exhortation contrary to the manner in which Cardinal Schonborn presented Amoris Laetitia.
In the meantime, I wish Vox and all my brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ peace. We are united in Jesus Christ and His True Church.
Pax.
Mark Thomas
Mark, your comment, "I beg His Holiness to end the controversy in question. He must respond to his brother Churchmen who have employed his Exhortation contrary to the manner in which Cardinal Schonborn presented Amoris Laetitia."; is exactly right.
You and I, as Catholics, should not need to mine a papal document to determine that which is good in it from that which is not or at best, confusing. It should be clear for the simple man to understand. If he is upset about it, then he can do something about it and it is not referring us to what some Cardinal or Bishop may have said.
What does the Pope say? He seems to have answered it on the plane, "Yes, period." But he also said, he couldn't "remember the footnote."
So which is it, is it "yes," is it "what he said" or can he not, "remember."
He likes to talk about the "spirit" whatever it is. Well, it is not the Holy Spirit because the Holy Spirit brings "warmth to the chill..coolness in heat, solace, comfort, clarity, wisdom" and so on. He does not bring chaos, confusion, dissent, rancour.
What the Bishop of Rome has done is to throw his lot in with those who do not do the work of the Holy Spirit but some other "spirit."
Well, he need to decide who he is going to follow.
Is he mad and frustrated? GOOD. I hope he's really peeved about it all too! Now, he knows what he has put us through for three, long, tortuous years.
One man can fix it.
If he can, great, I'll praise him for it.
If he does not, then let God give him mercy, if He sees fit.
"The Amoris Latrine is not magisterial as Cardinal Burke has stated."
I hate to sound like a cracked record, but fair is fair.
1. AL is an Apostolic Exhortation directed by the Pope to the Universal Church. It fulfills all the criteria of magisterial teaching.
2. I have previously cited Pope Francis' own statement that his Exhortations are magisterial.
If Bergoglio is a true Pope, AL is beyond dispute, magisterial.
"It is not magisterial because it breaks with the past."
A Catholic Magisterium CANNOT break with the past. This is impossible. The Catholic Church is indefectible by the power of the Holy Ghost - Catholic dogma.
If Bergoglio's magisterium breaks with the past it CANNOT be Catholic and Bergoglio CANNOT be a true Pope. It really is as simple as that.
Ok thanks. I'll try to read on another device.
Christine
Lionel,
Your comment above is repugnant and distasteful to me and to the truth. You have no right to judge me and no right to question the Church.
I will let this post stand because Michael Voris is my example of a man. You have lied and misrepresented my past admission which was done out only because I was accused of living in adultery by a man named Julian Barkin on a blog in Toronto. He was a liar then and you are now.
Shame on you.
Lionel Andrades is a Feeneyite. For those who are not sure what this means:
"In the late 1940’s, a certain Fr. Leonard Feeney, S.J., a priest functioning in the Archdiocese of Boston, published articles and books declaring that the Catholic Church never taught the doctrine of baptism of blood and baptism of desire. Reacting to the nascent ecumenism and liberalism of Cardinal Cushing, he held that unless someone were baptized with the baptism of water, he could not be saved. He and his followers also said that the Church’s doctrine, that outside the Church there is no salvation, means that those who do not externally belong to the Catholic Church are necessarily going to hell. The Catholic Church never said or taught the doctrines of Fr. Feeney. The Catholic Church has universally taught and teaches that there is a baptism of blood and a baptism of desire, and that those who are invincibly ignorant of the truth of the Catholic Faith are not guilty of the personal sin of infidelity in their failure to embrace the Catholic Faith. Fr. Feeney’s error was condemned by the Holy Office in 1949, under the reign of Pius XII. Fr. Feeney did not recant, but was excommunicated. He founded a community where his followers gathered around him, and his error was confined mostly to the eastern section of the State of Massachusetts. They are commonly referred to as “Feeneyites.” In the past few years, however, many traditional Catholics have espoused this condemned error as if it were a Catholic doctrine. They falsely perceive the doctrine of baptism of desire and baptism of blood as a dilution of the Church’s true doctrine in preparation for the era of ecumenism. It should be noted that there are hardly any traditional priests who adhere to the doctrine of Fr. Feeney. It is a layman’s error, and it arises out of an ignorance of the Church’s true doctrine. In this Anti-Feeneyite Catechism, therefore, I intend to point out to the faithful the traditional doctrine of the Church, against the condemned innovation of Fr. Feeney. I will draw mostly from texts of popes, saints, doctors of the Church, renowned theologians, and common catechisms in order to prove the point."
For a detailed refutation of this heresy please read:
http://www.mostholytrinityseminary.org/Anti-Feeneyite%20Catechism%201%20&%202.pdf_____________________________
Thank you Peter! The only point I concede to Lionel, is that we "cannot know specific situations" because those can only be known to God.
AND IF HE DOESN'T WATCH HIMSELF, HE'LL BE BANNED FROM THIS BLOG!
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http://www.mostholytrinityseminary.org/Anti-Feeneyite%20Catechism%201%20&%202.pdf
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