In a column today in the Toronto Star, Coren states the following:
While most priests would never harm a child, and many are fine men, the culture of enforced celibacy and, forgive me, sexual immaturity, is profoundly damaging. Many experts estimate that perhaps half of all clergy break their vows of celibacy and while their partners may be adults, it creates the need for dishonesty and hiding. The abuser uses this dark insularity to his advantage.
When we mingle this with clericalism, a reverence towards the ordained that prevents criticism, a vehemently all-male and anti-democratic authority structure and a powerful self-defence mechanism it leads to all kinds of problems. Remember, abuse is not only sexual.
I will agree with Coren on one thing,"abuse is not only sexual."
On "clericalism," I detest it and anyone who reads this blog knows that. The worst clericalists are amongst the current crop of media priests and they don't need to be named here, we all know who they are. Coren and I would share the disdain for it and them. It was a false clericalism that allowed the predators that Coren describes and the bishops who covered it up to do the damage which they did and on this, we would also agree. A few blog posts below is the latest from a Grand Jury investigation in Altoona.
On the remainder, Coren; perhaps due to his new found funds and to stay in the good graces of TVO, The Toronto Star, CFRB and the CBC takes up the old canard to bash the Church, yet fails to mention the actual elephant in the room.
The crimes to which Coren refers were committed by homosexual men. It is not a matter of celibacy, it is a matter of sexual perversion. This is not to say that every man with same-sex attraction is a rapist or an abuser, but every man who has done these evil and dastardly deeds has same-sex attraction.
These were men who had no business in the priesthood. They came into the priesthood because it put them in close proximity to those whom they could bugger. They engaged in disgusting and vile acts upon Innocent boys mainly between 12 and 17. They were not interested in girls or little pre-pubescent children. They wanted perverted sex with boys and they were HOMOSEXUALS. They were protected for a variety of reasons, all of them wrong. Sometimes, they were protected by bishop who were themselves, sodomites.
Homosexual men should never and must never be admitted to the Catholic priesthood.
That is what Mr.Coren cannot bring himself to publicly state, but believe me, he knows it and I know that he knows it.
The John Jay report shows the following facts for the United States; the results would be similar in Canada:
The John Jay report shows the following facts for the United States; the results would be similar in Canada:
The John Jay Report stated that 4% of Catholic Priests were accused of child abuse.
(Although only only 5.7% of these were convicted, as an undisclosed number of other cases may have been settled out of court I shall keep to the higher figure of 4%)
Abuse of boys - Of the 4% of Catholic priests who abused children, 81% abused boys. So 3.24% ( ie 4% x 81%) of Catholic priests abused boys. But 16% of US Catholic priests were homosexual. So it appears that 20% of homosexual Catholic priests abused boys.
Abuse of girls - Of the 4% of Catholic priests who abused children, 19% abused girls. So 0.76% (ie 4% x 19%) of Catholic priests abused girls. But 84% of US Catholic priests were heterosexual.
Some abuse was against girls, the overwhelming majority was committed by men against boys. All of it was evil.
Coren was my friend and brother Knight. I had coffee in his living room and we shared many a phone conversation. He knows full well what the problem was and is.
Nice gesture bro.
19 comments:
The Jewishness in Coren is coming to the forefront. Jews hate Catholics and are very much involved with Freemasonry/Modernism & with putting an end to the CC. His opinions shouldn't be given any exposure.
You are 100% correct with regards to the abuse crisis within the Church being a sexual perversion problem, along with the majority of abuses done by homosexual priests with young boys. So many souls are being lost in the Church due to the lack of courage of many leaders to proclaim truth and confront evil. There are so many timid men who are afraid of confrontation, unless it is a confrontation with tradition. Although, I am sure many good men have been weeded out of the seminaries in preference of these effeminate men, which has led to our current state of affairs. Only a return to the faithful traditions of our Catholic Church, will get us out of this mess. This continued change and going always forward will only lead to more chaos and lost souls.
I'm not aware that anyone else has asked this question. Was Coren's ideological trajectory merely misfortune, or was it planned? Is his Trotskyite allegiance new, or was it always there -- throughout his flirtation with Evangelicalism, neo-Catholicism, and now sodo-Anglicanism? Is he a masonic plant, infiltrator, and subverter? Are there others working with him for the destruction of souls?
I skimmed the PA Attorney General's report, 145 pages, and looked like 2-3 involved females. Yet David Clohessy of SNAP, on my local US radio, vehemently denied it was a homosexual problem. (This man did not even call the police on his own priest-molester brother.) It's a swamp of liars.
After seeing the comment of 'Osusanna', I decided to check out the report as well. It is vile. The acts perpetrated by the priests, and yes it is overwhelmingly against young boys, but also the cover up by the so-called Bishops of God are indefensible. Any Bishop who covered up after any allegation was substantiated, has the responsibility of further vile acts committed by these priests on their soul.
https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/MainSite/Content/Related_Content/PressReleases/GJ%20Diocese%20Report.pdf
No, not every sex abuser priest is homosexual. The pedophile priest who caused the most damage to the faithful in the London (Ontario) diocese preyed on little girls. Screening for homosexuals would not keep out an abuser like that man.
Dear Anon 4:19PM.
Yes, not every abuser and of course, my point was the overwhelming abuse case was homosexual men upon post-pubescent boys. I should have been more clear.
However, according to the John Jay Study in the United States which should be similar to Canadian realities:
4% of Catholic Priests were accused of child abuse.
(Although only only 5.7% of these were convicted, as an undisclosed number of other cases may have been settled out of court I shall keep to the higher figure of 4%)
Abuse of boys
Of the 4% of Catholic priests who abused children, 81% abused boys.
So 3.24% ( ie 4% x 81%) of Catholic priests abused boys.
But 16% of US Catholic priests were homosexual.
So it appears that 20% of homosexual Catholic priests abused boys.
(The counterargument to this would be to make the counter-intuitive claim that heterosexual priests abused boys.)
Abuse of girls
Of the 4% of Catholic priests who abused children, 19% abused girls.
So 0.76% (ie 4% x 19%) of Catholic priests abused girls.
But 84% of US Catholic priests were heterosexual.
About the priest to whom you refer; let us name him.
Father Charles Silvestre of the Diocese of London; ordained in 1962, as I recall and his abuse began right away. He left a trail of suffering across southwestern Ontario. A disgraceful pervert and cretin preying upon young post-pubescent girls. He pleaded guilty to, I think, 48 cases. Who hid him? name him? Gerald Emmett Carter. Who else. John Sherlock! Poor Bishop Fabbro has had to deal with it.
What else about London under Carter and Sherlock?
The diocese in Canada with the most confirmed cases or convictions, I believe 29. The rest were all homosexuals.
You've heard of course of Berry Glendenning?
What does it say about Carter?
And what of certain Monsignor's he had in Toronto found in funny clothes?
The overwhelming majority were homosexual men preying upon boys; you cannot argue with the facts.
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Anonymous 4:19 - That is incorrect.
The most damage in DoL has been done by sodomite priests, notably Barry Glendinning, a homo-pederast. It is the lesson of history, traceable all the way back to ancient Greece and Rome, that homos have the strongest predilection for young boys. Victoms in recent times are predominantly young boys. Cf. Sylvia's site to see the depravity that existed in the Diocese of London:
http://www.theinquiry.ca/wordpress/tag/london/
Pope Benedict sent a personal thank you note to Father Prof. Dariusz Oko (a true hero, who receives death threats regularly, and is much mocked and put down by the polish overwhelmingly leftist media) for his 2012 paper illustrating the problem of homosexuality and ephebophilia in the Church entitled "With the Pope against the Homoheresy".
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/02/fr-dariusz-okos-major-article-with-pope.html
Vox, long ago I used to see M. Coren as a guest on 100 Huntley Street. I know he was your friend, but I am going to say it anyway - I was shocked by his arrogance and pride. I could appreciate his intelligence, and do not think at all (as many do) that a Christian must be a doormat, but this man was obviously arrogant.
Thank you for telling us the following:
"Homosexual men should never and must never be admitted to the Catholic priesthood. That is what Mr.Coren cannot bring himself to publicly state, but believe me, he knows it and I know that he knows it."
I believe you when you say that you know that he knows. From this point on I will always remember that he is a paid weasel. Until he repents. Let us hope he does, but I am not holding my breath. Pride is major obstacle to repentance.
Homosexual Priests are Reprobates they should not be Priests Period. No boy should be left a lone with Homosexual Reprobate Priest for one second. A Homosexual becomes a Reprobate when he becomes ordained in the Catholic Priesthood. He rejects the Truth that the Apostles that Christ Ordained were hetrosexually normal. The Apostolic session is to be normal heterosexual men ordained into the Catholic Priesthood. This Truth Homosexuals reject and therefore are Reprobates. As Reprobates God allows them to lust for dirty and diabolical perversions. Which is the facts we have seen in the last two decades. It will continue until the Church kicks them out of the Priesthood.
@anon 2:24
You are correct in saying that homosexuals should not become priests. However, if a homosexual is ordained he is not ipso facto a reprobate.
A Homosexual knowingly becoming a Priest is rejecting the Truth that a Homosexual can not be an ordained Priest. By rejecting that Truth He is a Reprobate. A Reprobate is a person Baptized and rejects any of the absolute Truths. Therefore a Homosexual Priest is a Reprobate. Unless one objectively favors Homosexual Priests.
The infiltration continues in some areas - especially religious orders. One must ask why so many Jesuits (especially in the United States) are pro-homosexual? For example, Jason Welle S.J., was last Fall ordained a deacon. He will be ordained to the priesthood, presumably this year. He is on the record of supporting homosexual "unions". Vox Cantoris and I exposed him on our blogs, wrote to his Jesuit Superiors. Nothing has been done.
I ask the reads of this comment: have you written to Welle's Superiors, to the bishop who ordained him. What are you doing to try to stop him. Have you blogged about him? Have you written to blogs about him, raising awareness? We have a moral obligation before God to do what we can to stop this man becoming a priest.
Michael Coren is a whore.
He's doesn't sell his body - just his integrity. He will take whatever position nets the most reliable profit. When Sun News TV was going down he realized the market for a conservative Catholic crap disturber was dismal, so he reinvented himself once again into a progressive Protestant poop thrower.
In three years he'll be ordained an Anglican minister. They will give him a Toronto parish where he'll have a captive audience (something he craves). He'll get to claim to know the true mind of God, privately interpret Scripture, and contradict everything he wrote in "Why Catholics Are Right".
Given their dwindling numbers there won't be much to do as an Anglican pastor so Coren will have time to write more of his books. He has a decent flair with words but is no academic or creative contributor to the greater good. Expect a book attacking the Catholic clergy - how celibacy causes child abuse. Maybe Jack Chick will provide the graphics.
It's not Coren that amazes me but the lemmings who praise him now. No matter how unreasonable a convert seems to be if they embrace the homosexual agenda all is forgiven. Of course once you cross into the dark side it's an all or nothing exchange or else you'll feel their wrath - just ask Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner, Republican.
If this new gig doesn't work out we may see Coren as an Islamic Iman, or Wiccan Warlock, or whatever will pay the bills. Those who assume a British accent equals intellectual substance will fall on Coren's schtick like a horny john gets duped by a well put together tranny. Pray for him and hope you're not standing next to him on the General Judgement Day.
Ouch!
Vox:
I hope you will remove the ignorant, racist and uncharitable statement above by Ana Milan. Such misinformed and irrational comments discredit this blog, and all traditional Catholics. Anti-Jewish ridicule is in direct contrast to Church teaching and Christian virtue.
@Anonymous 9:46 am, March 04, 2016
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you there. A reprobate is someone who is in hell or destined for hell (see Summa Theologiae Ia, q. 23, a. 3, co.). A homosexual being ordained a priest might be gravely wrong, but this does not necessarily mean that he is committing a mortal sin or that he will go to hell.
Based on extensive professional experience on the intersection between homosexuals and sexual abuse, there is no doubt that this was a homosexual crisis, not a pedophile one. The vast majority of victims were pubescent boys. This is the classic victim of a predatory homosexual. In the Jay report, younger boys drop off dramatically, then tail off to nearly nothing. In my experience as a criminal lawyer, pedophiles tend to go young, often VERY young, and are indiscriminate about the sex of their victims. Predatory homosexuals nearly always go for the pubescent of adolescent boys. That's why it irks me when people talk about "pedophilia priests." The Jay Report gratuitously states that there is no evidence that homosexuals were involved. Well, their own data blows that out of the water.
Joan, there is ample evidence within the Talmud itself of anti-Catholic and hateful statements by Rabbinical Judaism towards Christ's Church. I don't agree with Ana that it is Coren's "Jewishness" - I think it is something else which I won't discuss. Nor, do all Jews hate Catholics. I will let the comment stand regardless.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but let's look at some of what the Talmud states:
Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal"
Yebamoth 98a: All gentile children are animals
Sanhedrin 74b: "Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals"
Egret Raschi Erod 22 30: "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture says to honor the dog more than the non-Jew"
Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed"
Zohar 1,160a: "Jews must always try to decieve Christians"
Choschen Ham 2,661: "The Jew is allowed to go to the Akum (Gentile), lead him on, do business with him, to deceive him and take his money. For the wealth of the Akum is to be regarded as common property and belongs to the first who can get it"
Hikkoth Akum XI: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death"
Coschen Hamischpat, Hagah 425: "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah"
Libbre David 37: "To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly"
Whereas the Muslims honor Jesus as a holy prophet, the Jews have a very wicked and blasphemous image of Jesus. In Sanhedrin 105ab, it is written, "Jesus fornicated with his jackass"
Certain Orthodox Jewish organizations have even been forthcoming and admit that the Talmud disparages Jesus Christ as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak. These Orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish sympathy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions. For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Jubavitch group - one of the largest in the world-we find the following statement:
"The Talmud records other sins of 'Jesus of Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic and led Jews astray into idolatry... (Sanhedrin 43a) 2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone, was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b;Sotah 47a) 3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh (Shabbos 104b)"
According to the Talmud, Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement (Gittin 57a) and Mary was a whore - "She who was a descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters" (Sanhedrin 106a). In the footnote of Shabbath 104b, Mary is referred to as "Miriam the hairdresser" who had sex with many men.
There are many Jews who still hold to these beliefs.
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