Thursday, 29 March 2018

At the doorstep of the Holy Triduum, Bergoglio declares there is no Hell

With sorrow to interrupt what was to be no posting.

It must be posted so that you and I can share in the sufferings of Our Lord Jesus Christ, betrayed by Judas Iscariot and by Jorge Judas Bergoglio.

From Rorate:

Will @pontifex or @gregburkerome deny this?

Will any bishop or cardinal have the courage to demand that this Argentinian scandal foisted upon the Chair of Peter be called out to reject this heresy?

Cowards, all of them.

To hell with them, literally.

[Scalfari:] Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?
[Francis:] "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."

Revelation 21:8
8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Matthew 25:46
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Psalm 9:17
17 The wicked go down to the realm of the dead, all the nations that forget God.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
9 They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might

Matthew 13:50
50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Acts 2:27
27 because you will not abandon me to the realm of the dead, you will not let your holy one see decay.

Mark 9:43
43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.

Jude 1:7
7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

Proverbs 15:24
24 The path of life leads upward for the prudent to keep them from going down to the realm of the dead.

Proverbs 23:14
14 Punish them with the rod and save them from death.

Matthew 13:42
42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:41
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 19:20
20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.

Proverbs 15:11
11 Death and Destruction lie open before the LORD— how much more do human hearts!

Matthew 16:19
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

2 Peter 2:4
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment;

Revelation 20:13-14
13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Matthew 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Ezekiel 18:20
20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.


Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Such a nice gift from our humble and pastoral papa. I never liked the idea of hell either. Now we can ALL celebrate Sodom (should we so desire, or be legally obliged to at least do lip service) as our pervert shepherds have been all along, without a worry in the world, this one or the next.
By the way, Bergoglio was reported by Scalfari to have said the exact same thing 5 years ago. I expected him to be removed or the world to end, when I read about it. Nobody said anything. Well, such a merciful teaching was useful to them.

Anil Wang said...

Scalfari has gone on record as saying he takes no notes but gives the gist of the conversation from memory, so it might not be accurate or truthful.

But let's assume it is accurate, this is merely the natural consequence of von Balthasar's theology on hell which was held up by the past two Popes as worthy of study. This infestation is at the core of the problem in the Church Today. If there is no hell (or no-one except Hilter and Stalin get there), then we don't have to worry about morality, liturgy, or evangelism. Sure we may get it wrong and be punished with a million years in purgatory, but eventually everything will be okay, for ever. This infestation has crippled the Church, left it in the fate of the victim in the parable of the Poor Samaritan.

Personally, I don't believe the quote is accurate. If he did believe in annihilationism, then he's be a very vocal ally of Tradition since despite it's torture, non-existence is a worse fate than Hell and he would not want to be responsible for reading people to destruction. If he did not believe in Hell, it's because he believes only the truly evil people are annihilated....the rest just have to go through a long time in Purgatory so he's free to amend the Church as he wishes.

Michael Ortiz said...

They should go to Santa Marta and demand clarification. All of the cardinals. Every one.

Jay Jay said...

I can go along with that. So Francisco, why don’t you disappear, like ASAP?

Dan said...

He said before that hell is incompatible with the logic of the gospel. You know, the gospel that speaks of the incarnation and suffering and death of Christ in order to reconcile us to Himself. Yep, hell doesn't seem to logically fit that gospel.

God must be feeling really stupid right about now.

And yet no one has the guts to say anything against this imbecile.....

Wolverine said...

Wolverine said...

Hope it's true!! I pray that evil will be made manifest. Please dear Lord let all be revealed so that even the blind may see.

10:41 pm, March 28, 2018

Wow...less than 24 hours and God is answering my prayers. Don't stop now Bishop Bergoglio you're on a roll!!

Kathleen1031 said...

If it was not said, if he did not intend that meaning to be conveyed, it has been how many hours since he uttered it?
He has certainly heard the hue and cry over his statement, he knows full well how to refute things quickly, look how quickly he corrected Cardinal Sarah when he dared to say Holy Mass should be celebrated ad orientem! That was responded to quickly, so if we do not hear a full retraction of this statement in hours, then we can go ahead and assume the obvious, that he meant it full well, and delivered that heresy with exquisite timing, just when Catholics were entering into the sacred time of the Triduum. It is obvious the man enjoys poking Catholics in the eye, and on a regular basis.
The other aspect is his obvious choice of an old atheist Communist as the partner in these regular chats. It's all just part of the scandal, how he keeps us all guessing. "Did he say it?", "Is that what he meant?", "Did the atheist get it wrong?", "Was he misquoted?". No pope in history has likely ever deliver his barbs with regularity to an avowed atheist. It is likely there is not a hair's difference between them.
Yes, it's all just part of the fun for this man, who is enjoying his position of worldly power.

Tony V said...

First, we hear there's no hell.
What's next--no heck?

Anonymous said...

Those scripture passages are only evidence of ancient Jewish fairy tales. -Modern Catholic Theologian

Johnno said...

"No one is condemned forever." - Amoris Stupidita

Remember that?

I trust Scalfari. That atheist mason has more integrity than the heretic pope and the heretical incompetent Vatican press office. Scalfari's recollected memory is more consistent than the boobs who cant even pull off a letter PR stunt that continues to be an embarrassment of riches.

Bergolio does not believe in the Eucharist or Hell, and his views of heaven sound equally warped.

No wonder these morons reject Fatima. If they don't believe the 1st Secret, they won't believe the 3rd. The 2nd one they probably dismiss as a fabrication.

C. LaSalle said...

Remember that old saying, "liar, liar pants on fire?" I'm waiting for PF pants to burst into flames any day now.

Unknown said...

This religion just sounds better and better!


Michael Ortiz said...

Kim: very funny!

Unknown said...

Like all popes God has given this man an opportunity to do greater things as Jesus promises. But this makes me doubt that Christ in Francis has a voice or rather that Francis is able to submit to the Christ in him. I am assuming that Francis believes that Jesus died on the cross to save him from sin. Oh dear.... it all comes into question now doesn't it.... If Christ is in this pope then I pray He rise up and glorify Father God. Otherwise the flesh of Francis will mislead many millions to am empty shell of a faith perpetuated by self.

Michael said...

Francis should be very careful. It is a shame for us, but more so for him, that he chooses to not be careful. If he propagates the belief that there is no hell, or allows others to propagate it in his name (that part is important!), he very likely will end up there.

susan said...

How can anyone still say that this beast is Peter? I truly think at this point, that anyone who refers to bergoglio as the pope is calling Jesus Christ a liar....the grave, unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit. We are in the realm of grave consequences for individual souls now.....Jesus gave us clear promises about Peter, and promised him a charism of the Holy Spirit regarding binding and loosing and protection of the Deposit of Faith....this man displays NONE of them. He is NOT the is time for the truth to be stated far and wide. As long as he hides securely behind the white polyester he will continue to do more and graver damage, and the recovery (if we're allowed it) will be brutally hard. Benedict is the reigning (AWFUL) pope....unmask bergoglio....deny him enmasse....he can't recover from that.

Unknown said...

Like Dorota says Francis "the humble" did say it about 5 years ago and there was no commotion, there was no traditional or conservative cardinal rebutting that declaration. I don't understand why now. Such a very dangerous misleading statement....

James said...

Lord have mercy.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

@ Unknown 10:48

I know why the same words allegedly spoken in the beginning of the pontificate - in conversation with the same atheist communist Scalfari - were ignored.

As long as Bergoglio didn't speak heresy ex cathedra, only unofficially (though not privately), the Church doctrine was considered safe. Yet we know the concept of gradualism. We have seen it at work for decades or longer. Look at unwed mothers, for example. No longer does anyone dare to correct the "ladies'" behaviour. We are being desensitized to sins calling for vengeance to Heaven (meaning "to God", not to some abstract concept/place), and we go along with it, as long as the doctrine seems safe.

It finds hardly any expression in real life, but we say nothing, because the doctrine seems safe - even when it is as good as dead!

We are legalistic. Bergoglio is right. He is using it boldly against the Church, "laughing all the way, ha ha ha..."

But the doctrine has never been safe, the devil has never stopped charming us with denial of Truth and false promises. The proof of the devastation which has been done to the doctrine is everywhere we look. James Martin comes to mind. I really despise his life's work. It bothers me that the Church has let this disgusting deviant demoralize the gullible. There are so many like him, Bergoglio being not the least influential.

Every time anyone in the Church, small or large, speaks lies, they should be immediately corrected for the love of Truth, of Christ. Just look what is happening to our Brothers, Catholics in China, under this evil man's leadership.

Yes, I am ignorant. Yes, I am not a theologian. But I ask - What use is a theologian, when he stands by, as Jesus Christ is mocked by His alleged representative on earth?

Anonymous said...

@ Paul Morphy

This entire situation can be very easily rectified.

Our esteemed pontiff can issue a communique stating (1) Scalfari has falsely attributed statements to him (the Pope), and (2) Hell does exist.

I look forward to Bergoglio's communique.

Badcatholic said...

What's with the supposed comment that our species will become extinct and God will create a new one ?

Johnno said...

Says it all

tuleesh said...

Well, Bishop Robert Barron must be throwing cartwheels of joy right now.

tuleesh said...

Daniel 12:2,3: 2And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the firmament; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever.