"Catholic" priest threatens to sue Blogger

Yes, you read that correctly.

No, it is not me.

Do yourself a favour Father; before you sue her, do a search for Vox and Rosica!

But first, read this, just in case you failed Scripture in seminary.

1 Corinthians 6 Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)

Lawsuits among Believers

6 When one of you has a grievance against a brother, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous[a] instead of the saints? 2 Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, matters pertaining to this life! 4 If then you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who are least esteemed by the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no man among you wise enough to decide between members of the brotherhood, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?

7 To have lawsuits at all with one another is defeat for you. Why not rather suffer wrong? Why not rather be defrauded? 8 But you yourselves wrong and defraud, and that even your own brethren.

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral,[b] nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[c][d] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor robbers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

Oh, you're on Twitter?

https://twitter.com/Father_Dan

Have a nice day.

Vox!


http://faithinourfamilies.com/2015/05/30/catholic-priest-threatens-mum-of-3-with-legal-action-because-she-told-him-off-for-saying-that-the-holy-spirit-is-female-and-then-he-lies-on-twitter-about-her/

Catholic Priest threatens Mum of 3 with legal action, because she told him off for saying that the Holy Spirit is female., and then he lies on Twitter about her!

May 30, 2015 in Uncategorized

Fr. Dan Fitzpatrick

This is not a spoof post. This actually happened.

So my in previous article I wrote about how Fr James Martin SJ and Fr. Dan Fitzpatrick had been tweeting about how the Holy Spirit was female:

And how both of them had been sharing posts saying that ‘Ireland is for gay marriage because it is Catholic’.

And I gave them both a jolly good clip round the ear about openly contradicting the teachings of the Catholic church. Well, this morning I got a message from Fr Dan threatening me with legal action because I was ‘defaming his character’.

I messaged him back saying:

“Would you like to tell me the 2 statements that cause you upset? I would be happy to rephrase anything that is not correct.”

He messaged back with:

Edited out some of the abusive comments??! I did nothing of the sort! The truth is that there were no abusive comments to begin with. It is all there in black and white, clear as crystal for the whole world to read. There was however an extremely abusive comment from a lady who seems to hate me. I was able to track her IP address to Newcastle-Upon-Tyne. Does anyone know who Christine Wright from is?

Anyway, I wrote back to Fr. Dan saying:

“Again, if you tell me exactly what 2 statements are bothering you, I am happy to rephrase them. From a legal point of view, because I have offered to amend any offending statements, the problem can be resolved and there is no reason to take the matter further. Your solicitor will be able to explain this to you in more detail.

Besides, suing me because I pulled you up on calling the Holy Spirit ‘her’ is going to be rather difficult for you as what you said is in direct contradiction to the Catholic faith!

As I said before, the best thing you can do now is to admit you didn’t understand the ancient Hebrew, and stop listening to Fr James Martin. I’m throwing you a life line here! I gave you the chance to put your side across before I wrote the article. I’m giving you another chance now to redeem yourself. Don’t waste it. I will always support priests who defend the churches teaching. Come back to us Fr Dan. Don’t sell yourself out. I couldn’t bear to watch that happen to a young priest. All my prayers and fasting next week is for you xx”

A few hours later I was alerted to the fact that Fr. Dan had posted a rather bizarre Tweet:

WHAT???!!! I did nothing of the sort! What am I supposed to be apologising for?

I’m afraid to tell you that I did no such thing. This is a bare faced lie from Fr Dan, obviously trying to close down the whole affair because he realises by this point that I am not one to be scared off by threats or bullying. But wait.. there’s more! Then his best mate Fr Marc Lyden-Smith gets on board:

I’m sorry – am I missing something here?! Has everyone seen this alleged apology except me?! Can anyone tell me what I apologised for?!

Fr Marc is the other half of the duo ‘The PodFathers’ With Fr Dan. You can hear their pod casts at http://thepodfrs.blogspot.co.uk/

‘The PodFathers’ – Fr. Dan Fitzpatrick and Fr Marc Lyden-Smith

Actually Fr Marc seems rather pleasant in the above Tweet. Much more pleasant than he was last night:

Hmmm… Where’s all your feel good peace and love gone Fr. Marc?

And then of course there was this:

I’m not sure Faith in Our Families has ever been described as an offensive blog before?! But I guess there is a first time for everything! I also guess it’s good news that I have ‘seen sense’ and deleted all these fictitious libellous comments!

Please – Fr Dan, could you produce these libellous comments for us all to see? No, I didn’t think so.

What appalling behaviour from 2 Catholic priests. It’s just embarrassing. I will be speaking to their Bishop.

Well, time is ticking on. There is only a few hours left until midnight, when Fr Dan will launch his legal campaign against me. Although I’m not sure what suing a Mum of 3 with a recovering husband will do to for his already damaged reputation. He certainly wont get any money out of us – as regular readers of this blog know, our family has not had an income for over 18 months now!

Someone please notify Michael Voris would you?! And the CDF while you are at it! I’ve got a headache…

UPDATE: This is from Father Fitzpatrick's Twitter. The bottom line is that no priest should be Tweeting in this manner and should never, ever threaten a lawsuit against a layman or woman. Maybe now these clericalists will learn and humble themselves to be priests of Jesus Christ.

Cardinal Kasper - self evident heretic!

 Gay unions now ‘central’ to Synod agenda after Irish vote: Cardinal Kasper

 Homosexuality , Ireland , Same-Sex 'Marriage' , Synod On The Family , Walter Kasper

NEWS ANALYSIS

May 29, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- The grave effects of Ireland’s May 22 referendum in favor of a same-sex “marriages,” not only for the secular world, but also especially for the Catholic Church, are showing themselves already.

None other than the leading cardinal who has promoted the liberal agenda for the two-part Synod of Bishops on the Family, Cardinal Walter Kasper, has now come out publicly and with force, telling the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera that the Church needs to address more fully the question of same-sex couples. This topic was at the last Synod “only a marginal topic, but now it becomes central,” Kasper said on Wednesday.

Kasper also defended the vote of the Irish in favor of homosexual “marriages,” saying: “A democratic state has the duty to respect the will of the people; and it seems clear that, if the majority of the people wants such homosexual unions, the state has a duty to recognize such rights.” He also said that the Irish referendum is “emblematic for the situation in which we find ourselves, not only in Europe, but in the whole West.” Kasper also said: “The postmodern concept – following which everything is equal – stands in contrast to the doctrine of the Church.”

Cardinal Kasper made a link between the events in Ireland and the doctrine of the Catholic Church, when he said it now becomes harder for the Church to explain its own moral position to others in the question of homosexuality. “We have to find a new language,” he said. “We have to overcome [unjust] discrimination, which has a long tradition in our culture.” It is important in his view to honor those long-lasting same-sex relationships, which contain “elements of the good,” even though the Church cannot change its fundamental attitude toward them since they are themselves against the teaching of the Gospels.

Read the rest here:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/gay-unions-now-central-to-synod-agenda-after-irish-vote-cardinal-kasper

Help a Seminarian!

Hello Friends,

I would like to put out this appeal for Mr. Michael Hayes. I know Michael and can vouch for him. He is studying for the Catholic priesthood for the Ukrainian Rite of the Catholic Church in Canada.

Michael writes below his appeal.

Can Vox readers put him over the top? 

God bless you.

Vox

http://www.gofundme.com/michaelhayes

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!

My name is Michael Hayes. After several years of discernment, I entered seminary last year for the Ukrainian Catholic Church in Canada. I am preparing to enter my second year of theological studies in September, 2015.

In order to continue with my seminary formation, I will require the financial support of others. My diocese will cover room, board, and food; I pay for tuition, academic fees, and personal expenses. While I will be working during the summer, I will not make enough money to cover my costs for the next academic year. As a seminarian, I am not permitted to work during the academic year.

I am trying to raise approximately $8,500 to cover the costs of the year. The breakdown is as follows:

University tuition and fees (Summer, 2015): ~$700

University tuition (Fall-Winter, 2015-16): ~$5,100

Incidental fees (Fall-Winter, 2015-16): ~$700

Books: ~$500

Personal expenses: ~$1,500

Any donation no matter how large will be greatly appreciated. Since this is a personal fundraising campaign, I am not able to issue tax receipts. Please know that I pray for all of my benefactors by name daily; I mean it when I tell you that you are in my prayers!

Thank you, and God bless!

Only evil lurks in secrecy and shadows, let us shine light on them

Edward Pentin has done Catholics a great service at National Catholic Register by publishing the names of those present at the "secret" meeting of those who would undermine the Church by promoting a new view of sodomy and marriage.

None of you can hide. We will smoke you out. You and your homoheresy will not be allowed to defile the Bride of Christ. You are malefactors, filthy, corrupt and heretics, traitors to Christ.

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/list-of-participants-who-attended-gregorian-shadow-synod

Rome Study Day of the presidents of the Swiss, French and German Bishops' Conferences in Rome on the theme of the Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops:

"THE VOCATION AND MISSION OF THE FAMILY IN THE CHURCH AND THE WORLD TODAY"

BISHOPS:

Cardinal Reinhard Marx, president of the German Bishops’ Conference, Archbishop of Munich and Freising

Archbishop Georges Pontier, president of the French Bishops’ Conference, Archbishop of Marseille

Bishop Markus Büchel, president of the Swiss Bishops’ Conference, Bishop of St. Gallen

Bishop Franz-Josef Bode of Osnabrück, Germany

Bishop Heiner Koch of Dresden-Meißen, Germany

Bishop Felix Gmür of Basel, Switzerland

Bishop Jean-Marie Lovey of Sitten, Switzerland

Bishop Bruno Ann-Marie Feillet of Reims, France

Bishop Jean-Luc Brunin of Le Havre, France

PROFESSORS/PRIESTS:

Father Hans Langendörfer SJ, secretary general, German Bishops Conference

Father Hans Zollner SJ, professor of psychology, vice-rector, Pontifical Gregorian University

Father Achim Buckenmaier, professor of dogmatic theology in the "Akademie für die Theologie des Volkes Gottes" Institute of the Pontifical Lateran University, Rome; consultor to the Pontifical Council for Promoting the New Evangelization

Father Andreas R. Batlogg SJ, professor of philosophy and theology, chief editor Stimmen der Zeit

Father Alain Thomasset SJ, professor of moral theology at Centre Sèvres, France 

Father Humberto Miguel Yañez SJ, dean of moral theology, Pontifical Gregorian University

Father Eberhard Schockenhoff, professor of moral theology at the Albert-Ludwigs-Universität Freiburg, Germany

Father Philippe Bordeyne, professor of theology, Institut Catholique de Paris

Professor Thomas Söding, professor of biblical theology at Ruhr-Universität Bochum, Germany

Professor Werner G. Jeanrond, theologian, Master of St Benet’s Hall, Oxford, England

Professor François Xavier Amherdt, theologian, University of Fribourg, Switzerland

Professor Erwin Dirscherl, dogmatic theologian, University of Regensburg, Germany

Professor Monique Baujard, director, Service National Famille et Société at the French bishops’ conference

Professor Eva Maria Faber, dogmatic and fundamental theologian and rector of Chur Theological College, Switzerland

Professor Thierry Collaud, theologian, University of Fribourg, Switzerland

Professor Francine Charoy, professor of moral theology, Institut Catholique de Paris

Professor Anne-Marie Pelletier, biblicist at the European Institute of Science of Religions (IESR)

OTHER:

Msgr. Markus Graulich SDB, prelate auditor of the tribunal of the Roman Rota

Marco Impagliazzo, President of Sant’Egidio lay community

MEDIA:

Simon Hehli, journalist, Neue Zürcher Zeitung

Tilmann Kleinjung, ARD television correspondent

Michael Bewerunge, ZDF television correspondent

Jörg Bremer, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Vatican and Italy correspondent

Frédéric Mounier, correspondent, La Croix, Catholic daily, France

Marco Ansaldo, journalist, La Repubblica (Italian daily)

Antoine-Marie Izoard, director, I-Media French Catholic news agency, Rome

Father Bernd Hagenkord SJ, director of Vatican Radio (German edition)

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/list-of-participants-who-attended-gregorian-shadow-synod/#ixzz3bTVZTw8p

Communist and Masonic infiltration into the hierarchy of the Catholic Church

The work of Michael Hichborn at the Lepanto Institute must not go unnoticed. We have opined recently about "Russia's errors" and that the failure to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has more than just political and economic consequences. Intricately connected to global communism is the broader globalist plan of world political and economic control and Freemasonry. One need not be a conspiracy theorist or wear a tin-foiled hat to hold these views, one simply needs to see clearly what is happening around us daily.

The world is on a march to war and control. We are being used by dark forces as fodder for their satanic aims and the Church is the target because She is the last thing standing in their way.

I have written before how the Masonic Press Agency and the Grand Lodges of Italy and Argentina applauded the election of Jorge Bergoglio as Bishop of Rome. I am not saying that Pope Francis is a Freemason, I am saying that Freemasons applauded his election and the evidence us available for all to see. Even Cardinals who have their own dark history, referred to "powerful men" who sought the election of Jorge Bergoglio. Why? 

When Bella Dodd testified that she recruited over one thousand communists for the Catholic priesthood maybe we should believe it.

Caritas, the subject of the article below, now headed by Cardinal Tagle, was headed by Cardinal Maradiaga. This is the same who has recently condemned those opposed to the UN's push on climate change and the Pope's apparent encyclical as "capitalists" in classic Marxist rhetoric.

The KGB developed Liberation Theology and now these followers have redeemed its pathetic founder, beatified its spiritual head and now we have a Pope who people have gone to great lengths to distance him from this theological heresy during his time in Argentina. I note that they don't distance him from it anymore.  

We cannot as Catholics abandon our Mother. She is being raped and defiled. These malefactors, many of them in scarlet, are trying to turn Our Holy Mother into the Whore of Babylon. They are forcing her to "commit fornication" and they are preparing to set up within Her, the "Abomination of Desolation."

We must not let them succeed.

We must remain faithful and Our Lord Jesus Christ will guide us through the Holy Spirit.

St Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host, thrust down into Hell, Satan; and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/catholic-group-exposes-red-influence-in-the-vatican/

Catholic Group Exposes Red Influence in the Vatican

Cliff Kincaid  —   May 26, 2015
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Doing the research and investigative work that the major U.S. media have all but abandoned, an organization called the American Life League (ALL) has uncovered dramatic evidence of links between the highest levels of the Roman Catholic Church and an international communist group known as the World Social Forum. The evidence suggests overt Marxist influence on the climate change movement that Pope Francis and his top advisers are now embracing.

The ALL report, a 76-page PowerPoint presentation complete with original source material and numerous photographs, documents how Caritas Internationalis, the Vatican’s top social justice organization, is actually “providing leadership” to the communist group.

The report’s author, Michael Hichborn, stated, “This is a very serious problem. Given how intimately connected the World Social Forum (WSF) has been with the promotion of communism, abortion, and homosexuality since the very beginning, it’s impossible to see how any Catholic can participate in it, or even speak positively about it, let alone have any involvement in its governance. But Caritas Internationalis does!”

These allegations can’t be dismissed as anti-Catholic bigotry, since the American Life League is itself a Catholic organization that has been working for years to expose Catholic funds and organizations that promote causes at variance with official Catholic teaching.

However, Hichborn tells Accuracy in Media that except for specialized publications such as Lifesitenews, the media have ignored the report.

The ALL report on the WSF includes eye-opening photographs from the group’s events, featuring open displays of communist flags and banners as well as images of such personalities as Lenin, Castro and Mao.

Most of our media, of course, reported on the “death” of communism after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

But the ALL report notes that “There can be no mistaking the materialist and revolutionary (Communist) nature of the forum itself, which sets it in opposition to the Catholic Church.”

Hichborn told AIM that he delivered a copy of the report to the Vatican office known as Cor Unum, but that nothing came of it, and that one Vatican official concerned about the issue was relieved of his duties.

ALL identifies the other Catholic groups involved in the activities of the WSF as Pax Christi, Center of Concern, Sisters of Notre Dame de Namur, Catholic Relief Services and CIDSE, an international alliance of Catholic development agencies.

An independent review of the ALL report confirms the research into the links between Caritas Internationalis and the WSF. In fact, a document on the Caritas website still affirms that “Caritas has been involved in the WSF since its beginnings. Caritas believes it’s an opportunity to exchange ideas and to build the momentum towards real change.”

After the ALL report was released, a conference at the Vatican was sponsored by Caritas Internationalis that featured Jeffrey Sachs, the Columbia University professor and Special Advisor to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon, and Gustavo Gutierrez, the father of Marxist-oriented Liberation Theology.

As Accuracy in Media reported, Sachs wrote an article for the Jesuit publicationAmerica attacking the “American idea” of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as narrow and selfish. He suggests that America’s founding document is outmoded and incompatible with his idea of Catholic teaching about social justice.

Sachs is an advocate of global taxes to extract hundreds of billions of dollars from the American people in order to finance some form of world government. The climate change movement, based on dubious science, is the most popular current vehicle that Sachs and others can use to bring this about.

Seizing on Sachs’ extraordinary remarks in a major Catholic publication, the well-known writer Edward Cline comments on the Family Security Matters website that “It would take a village—or, at least, the ‘global’ one—to subjugate and sack America. That is what is being proposed by Jeffrey Sachs.”

The Cline piece carries the title, “The ‘Sach-ing’ of America,” and he concludes that “In its essentials, Sachs’ plan for the future sacking of America differs little from Islam’s.”

In short, the American way of life is at risk, this time from a Vatican alliance with America’s academic elites and the U.N.

The World Social Forum itself just held another international conference focusing on one aspect of the Sachs agenda: global taxes. The WSF announced the launch of the Global Alliance for Tax Justice, including a statement that “Our vision entails progressive redistributive taxation polices that fund the vital public services, end inequality and poverty, address climate change and lead to sustainable development.”

The topic fits nicely with the expected papal encyclical on climate change.

At the Caritas conference, Pope Francis adviser Cardinal Oscar Rodríguez Maradiaga said that critics of the proposed papal document are advocates of an “ideology” that he concludes “is too tied to a capitalism that doesn’t want to stop ruining the environment because they don’t want to give up their profits.”

Critics are concerned because of the pope’s several statements indicating hostility to the system of capitalism and free markets that has brought prosperity to hundreds of millions of people.

This kind of Marxist rhetoric from a top Vatican adviser makes it appear as if the pope has aligned himself with an ideology that, despite the “collapse” of communism, is still very much alive, and which the Black Book of Communismsays has already claimed 100 million lives.

The recent cordial Francis visit with Cuban dictator Raul Castro only adds to the growing concern.

“Pope Francis will give us his encyclical letter on ecology,” said Maradiaga, anticipating its impact. “This year is a unique opportunity to take responsibility for the future of our world and the lives of future generations.”

The title of the Caritas conference was, “One Human Family, Caring for Creation.” But it appears that the “caring” part lies in replacing capitalism with structures of “global governance” that involve a massive transfer of political and economic power to international organizations like the United Nations.

After Maradiaga stepped down, he was replaced by Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle of Manila, Philippines, as the new president of Caritas Internationalis. But Maradiaga continues as the coordinator of a group of nine cardinals that serves as Francis’s Council of Cardinals.

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"Gay Marriage? A defeat for humanity" and yet ... that "secret" meeting revealed and the heretics of Vatican II have returned!

Il Foglio Quotidano is reporting today that the Secretary of State of the Vatican, Cardinal Parolin stated that so-called "gay marriage" is a "defeat for humanity." How wonderful that someone so close to the Pope himself has noticed the crisis with the people of Ireland having voted for a return of the snakes to the land of Eire. Where was the Cardinal, or the Pope for that matter, when this issue was being debated in Ireland. In Canada, we had it forced upon us by a less than Catholic Prime Minister and dictator, the Irish were stupid enough to give it to themselves. It is as if they have painted a big X on the island as if to say, "here Lord, send the big meteor right here." Perhaps Parolin is worried that Italy is next?

Edward Pentin, a brilliant reporter writes in the National Catholic Register, "Confidential Meeting Seeks to Sway Synod to Accept Same-Sex Unions."

Sarmaticus writes, "So It Was The Homo Agenda All Along." Yes, it was and we all knew it. The problem is the rest of the Catholic world has not grasped it and sadly, like Ireland, they probably would say as Dolan, "Bravo."

Steve Skojec at One Peter Five writes, "The Schism is Here. Right Now." Yes, Steve it is and we must now all crank it up to an even higher level of blogging to expose it and them and fight to wake-up ordinary Catholics to the heresy and schism that has been allowed to ferment and is now ready to explode on the scene for all to see.

The article below gives the Italian perspective and goes on to reveal certain matters as well discussed by the Swiss and Germans at that "secret" meeting. I've not had time to clean it up from the online translator, but you'll get the point.

The Church can never accept "Same-Sex Unions." If She does, she will have become a "harlot" and will have committed "fornication" and we will see the "Abomination of Desolation" set up where it ought not to be. 

Yes, friends; it is that serious and that is what we are facing.

May the LORD give us strength to fight, may Our Lady intercede for us, St. Joseph keep us faithful and St. Michael defend us in battle!

Pope Francis, you caused this. you need to act, now!

Put your coffee down, away from your keyboard and remember this:

“But even if we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. But do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I could not be a servant of Christ. But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ,” (Gal. 1:6-12)

"Gay Marriage? A defeat for humanity "says Parolin. But advances the front innovator of sex and family

E 'arrival in the New Instrumentum laboris, new expectations

Rome. Cardinal Secretary of State of His Holiness, Pietro Parolin, look at the results of the Irish referendum that gave the green light to the marriage between people of the same sex, and says that it is "not only a defeat of Christian principles, but it is "a defeat for humanity." The family, he added, "remains at the center and we must do everything to defend, protect and preserve the family because the very future of humanity and the Church, also faced with certain events that have happened in these days, remains the family." 

Meanwhile, bishops, theologians and cardinals of Switzerland, Germany and France debated at the Pontifical Gregorian University on the matters of sex and family and give highlight to the crucial next Synod convened by Pope autumn of 2015. A meeting, headed by Cardinal Reinhard Marx, Archbishop of Monaco and Freising and the presidents of the episcopal conferences and Swiss French, Markus Büchel and Georges Pontier, divided into three parts: study on Biblical hermeneutics to start - especially the words of Jesus on marriage and divorce - then reflection on theology of love and finally various dissertations on the application of Catholic moral teaching in today. Difficult aspect, since - as put in writing the German bishops in a statement - "in the social context of our society the individual is confronted with increasing difficulties endlessly in building responsible for his life." All this behind closed doors, for about fifty guests. "They make a common front, but we are witnessing a repeat of what has already seen the opening of Vatican II," the Vatican said Foglio longtime Gian Franco Svidercoschi, former deputy director of L'Osservatore Romano, "So the Franco-German They rebelled at the curia on the issue of the conciliar commissions. "

Switzerland made it known that "the Holy Family is no longer the ideal model" (where have we heard this before???) Stop banning gay marriage is not only sensible, it is a battle right If anything, he adds, "you have to wonder what it might be fundamentally new respect to the representatives of these bishops' conferences they had already said in the past months." The fact that you have chosen Rome as the venue of the meeting, known Svidercoschi, "does, however, negate the semblance of provocation. It released a proposal to be brought to the attention of the Pope; a text to let him know that you can not go back to square one." And who knows if in relatio post assembly to be read in Francis they shove even the phrases of "fondling, kissing and sexual activity is understood as coming together" that have resonated in the august halls of Universitas Roman governed by the Jesuits. Moreover, one of the participants has focused its work on the observation that "the sexual urge is the basis for a lasting relationship", while a colleague stated quite certain that "with the lengthening of life also moves the frontier of loyalty" and in short, that being together at the same partner for decades may eventually get bored. Be careful, however, to speak of meetings and gatherings Carbonari: "Closure does not mean to conceal something, but to give everyone the freedom to say what they think," says Foglio theologian Andrea Grillo, professor at the Pontifical University St. Anselm. "There is need to understand the reality and we need to prepare new conceptual tools to make contact with this reality."

"Serve - explains Andrea Grillo - setting different theological": "The problem is not to say that the doctrine is rigid, and thus needs to be made less rigid. It would take more theological mediation, which at Trent, Vatican I and Vatican II was something fundamental; just think of the documents produced in the assizes. This, today, is lost. And 'natural, therefore, that they are the local bishops' conferences to take on this task. " Especially if "the incentive to say what you think," the parresia, "comes directly from the top, by the Pope and by important personalities around him." It is not the frank talk of these days to impress Grillo, but rather the excessive caution shown before: "Perhaps, given also the input from above, one would have expected that the theologians were more quick to respond. But there was a certain fear of exposure, which in recent months seems gone." Certainly, and this meeting has confirmed, "very few, if any, were for the inaction, to confirm what has always been said on the subject of Catholic teaching on morality. Now we discuss how and when to move on if anything. " Svidercoschi agrees: "There is perhaps a fear that there be no progress and therefore we want to emphasize the fact that there is no going back." And what happened at the Gregorian is just one example, says the professor of St. Anselm, remembering that on May 11, was held at the Theological Faculty of Northern Italy a study day on the theme of indissolubility. "The shepherds have realized that, to deal with a situation like this costume and sociological, require a different theological approach. The problem is to confront a moral and legal tradition detached from reality. " What is it then? The theologian believes that the element that has been affirmed in the last months of debate has to do with the gradual nature of the Eucharist: "We always talk about gradual penitential, but never of the Eucharist."

Eventually it will come perhaps to discuss the distinction between marriage understood as a sacrament and marriage as a contract. "And 'the German line, after all," said Grillo. It would be important, he adds, "read the experience of the second marriage no longer as adultery continued." It is a road that begins to make his way, especially in sectors of the French: "The category medieval we follow no more substance in reality we live now for two centuries." The debate, in fact, may progressively lead to the "distinction of grave sin adultery." It is to admit that "even a second marriage, even among normal wounds appropriate, can not be a state of sin." So far, he adds Grillo, he too thought out and discussed "approaches and solutions that address the individual" and has not looked at the problem in its entirety and complexity. Meanwhile, in a few weeks it will be released the new Instrumentum laboris, the track for comparison in the New Synod. To study the possibility to update the methodology of work.

These heretics have challenged the Pope and his authority stating, "you can not go back to square one." I will repeat, the Pope has caused this crisis and chaos and he has done nothing to quell it. It may be too late and perhaps it is best to let this boil fester so that the puss can explode in October for all to see.

The schism within the Church in Germany is becoming apparent for all to see

As previously known from LifeSiteNews, Germany's youngest Bishop, Stefan Oster of Passau, on the matters of life, marriage and family distances himself from the majority of Germany's bishops and cardinals, specifically Marx and Kasper.

Rorate reports the following from five other German bishops supporting him.

[A Letter from Five German Bishops in support of Bishop Stefan Oster, SDB, as published on Bishop Oster's Facebook, May 16, 2015:]

Most Reverend Bishop Oster, dear Brother, Stefan,

We thank you for your statement concerning the recent public document “To Build Bridges Between the Teaching and Life Reality – Family and the Church in the World of Today,” which the ZdK formally approved during its Spring Plenary Assembly. We follow and wholeheartedly support your arguments on the teaching about the Christian view of man: especially with respect to the meaning of femininity and masculinity, and thus also especially with respect to the meaning of Christian Marriage, since they [these arguments] are deeply rooted in the teaching of Jesus Himself in Holy Scripture and in the Tradition of the Church.

Meanwhile, we live in Germany, in a strongly secularized society. This circumstance should not discourage us nor lead us to seek an adaptation to the secular mainstream, but it should make us see it as a chance now to re-discover the uniqueness of the Christian vocation [hence mission]in the world.

An indispensable precondition for this [rediscovered vocation] is an open-hearted and loyal proclamation of the teaching of Jesus in the Gospels and the discovery of the relationship with Him as providing true richness for our life, as you have done it in your own response.

Therefore, we are convinced that many faithful are also extraordinarily grateful to you for your clear words.

United in our brotherly bond, we greet you, we the bishops of:

Augsburg: Dr. Konrad Zdarsa

Eichstätt: Gregor M. Hanke OSB

Görlitz: Wolfgang Ipolt

Regensburg: Dr. Rudolf Voderholzer

Würzburg: Dr. Friedhelm Hofmann

[Translations: Dr. Maike Hickson]

When October is done, there will be two Catholic Churches in Germany; the Roman Catholic and the German Catholic. The former will be the real Church loyal to the faith and Magisterium and the latter will be heretics and no different than the protestant revolutionaries that came out of this same land.