It is logical that the next step is coming. The motu proprio's goal is the end of the traditional Mass. This can't happen with the traditional orders. They are next.
Those who don't go along with Bergoglio's plan, evolve to the new Personalist Church of Bergoglio will be excommunicated. What Bergoglio wants to do is to force us all out and into the Society of St. Pius X at which point he will declare all as schismatics and excommunicate.
That is what this is all about but I doubt he won't live long enough.
Hey Jorge, excommunicate this!
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You doubt he will live long enough you mean?
NO! Bergoglio does not seek to send any souls out to the SSPX. Bergoglio in obedience to his master Lucifer wants to bring all men into the one world pagan religion. I name Lucifer here specifically because he works through deception whereas Satan is more obvious in his evil ways. One of the devils most common methods is division and this has been seen time and time again throughout this anti-pontificate. He divides the faithful who have sought the traditional mass from those who attend the Novus ordo. Those who are going to the Novus ordo, getting communion on the hand from a face diapered priest or lay minister, none of these will object to getting sucked into a new pagan religion that very much resembles what they were already doing but without the Sacred Species. For those of us who choose the other path , expect further restrictions, expect that the one world pagan religion will work with the one world government to try to find you. expect that you will not be permitted in churches, or to congregate except in secret. Pray that after the Warning your guardian angel will lead you to a refuge.
But pray that your flight be not in the winter, or on the sabbath.
For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be. And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh should be saved: but for the sake of the elect those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:20-22
POPE FRANCIS AND THE ECCLESIASTICS GET AWAY WITH BAD THEOLOGY WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY THE TRADITIONALISTS AND LIBERALS : CARDINAL RAYMOND LEO BURKE HAS REMAINED SILENT ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
There cannot be a Restoration in the Church when the traditionalists and conservatives allow the liberals and Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, and create a rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no exceptions), the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius Ix ( with no exceptions) and the Athanasius Creed (with no exceptions).Pope Francis rejects all these three documents since there are exceptions for him.It is giving him a free hand to use deception to interpret Magisterial documents and now the religious communities, who were silent all these years, will be targetted.
The Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) say that they affirm all these three documents. For some of them in the SSPX there are exceptions and for others there are no exceptions.
For Bishop Bernard Fellay Vatican Council II and EENS had exceptions but for SSPX General Chapter in their Statement 2012 they accepted EENS with no exceptions, contradicting Bishop Fellay.
The present two popes , the SSPX, FSSP and the Franciscans of the Immaculate( both groups) support a New Theology based upon a fake premise, which creates a rupture with Tradition.It projects fake exceptions.So under these conditions how can there be a Restoration in the Church?
Pope Francis and the ecclesiastics get away with bad theology which is supported by Roberto dei Mattei, Chris Ferrara, Joseph Shaw and Cardinal Raymond Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schnedier.
Nothing will be fixed until Vatican 2 and the Novus Ordo are scrapped.
This is addressed to “peasant”
You often have keen insights but you are incorrect in assuming everyone who attends the NO mass will ‘get sucked into a new pagan religion’. Where is your charity? Many have no choice, short of relocating, in which mass to choose. We do the best we can as God provides and offer up what is lacking. When the time comes that the NO is no longer a sacrifice, I will stay home and do the best I can rather than worship a false god. So will many others.
BTW, I, as did the author of this blog, also sensed evil when Bergoglio appeared as pope. It only got worse with his actions and words. But because of how he was attacking traditional Catholics, I began searching the internet and it was only then that I saw exactly what he was criticizing. Sadly, there is some truth in that, although greatly exaggerated and made much worse by a devious mind.
Please do not “paint with a broad brush” your brothers and sisters in Christ or you make the same error he does.
All of this infighting among true believers serves the evil one and grieves our good God.
It doesn’t matter what Pope Francis says and writes at this point. Catholics are already looking forward to a new and traditionally loyal pontificate. The lungs of the Church are in need of a true breath of fresh air.
A Good Shepherd seeks after the one lost sheep amongst 100 faithful ones.
A Bad Shepherd tells 99 faithful sheep to get lost.
To "anonymous" who responded to "peasant".
My goodness, do you not realize Francis needed some silly reason to use as a cause for why he "had to end the Roman Rite? Of course he needed a cause, because an act so unnecessary and cruel was going to be questioned. To end the Mass of the Ages, the Mass as it has been understood for 1500 years, well, that act requires explanation. Does it really make any sense to you that because of some angry comments on social media, the pope has to end the Holy Mass? No. It does not make sense, that's a silly rationale for an evil act.
People must try not to be so gullible. Granted, it's not easy, these people are master manipulators, but we should look at actions and ask, how does this benefit them. Don't take these things at face value. He wants to get rid of the Roman Rite because this is what he was hired to do, his time on this earth grows short, his colon make it imperative to act NOW. His Motu Proprio was so angry and vindictive Cdl. Ladaria has to send it back twice and told him he would resign if it went out as written. Beroglio is a man with a belly full of bile and hatred for faithful Catholics (at least), and he apparently won't rest until he has persecuted them himself. No Catholic worth his Catholicity should fail to understand how cruel, pointless, heartless, and unnecessary his words and actions are. Catholics who attend the TLM weren't complaining about the Novus Ordo or VII. It's just that the TLM is growing because the young people recognize they want traditional Catholicism, in it's incomparable beauty and authentic worship of the Triune God. And he can't stand it.
response to Anonymous who didst respond to myself
Of course not absolutely everyone in the NO will get sucked into the new one world pagan religion, some will at some time (before it is too late) acquire wisdom and the courage needed to identify and correct their course. Some of the traditionalists of today will seek the new religion. Some will follow a path that meanders across both the good and the evil. What matters is where we are at the final moment of life. One should never assume that they have accomplished even at the moment before, there may be a turn for the worse. there will also be those who are not even Christian or Catholic who will convert at the Warning.
Where is my charity? I'm a peasant. I'm very slow at reading and writing. I should not have to be up late doing so but as you state I have keen insights and I feel compelled to inform people who may not have been gifted so. I say gifted as I'm sure it's not of my doing or anything I deserve. I did not think it was necessary for me to spell everything out as this seemed too obvious.
You state many have no choice in regard to attending mass. If you have read the lives of some saints you would have found that not a few spent long hours going to and from mass often if not daily. This is the time of saint making or not so. I want to tell you a story of a friend of mine going to mass on a Sunday late last year when church attendance in Toronto was extremely limited but St Catharines was open to 30% capacity. This woman is the same age my mother would have been. She left her residence at 0730 hrs. to take the TTC to the Megabus terminal downtown to catch a bus to take her to St Catharines and made arrangements to get picked up at the Mega bus terminal there to take her to Sunday mass for 1200 hrs. I met her after mass there and gave her a lift back. I have frequently driven more than an hour to get to Sunday mass during this present situation and have taken others with me. You have a choice, make it.
I have heard several times different folks ill affects on seeing Bergoglio elected. I did not pay much attention to that moment. I'm a peasant, I should just be watching the grass grow, deciding when best to harvest the crops, prepare the soil for the next seeding etc. but I'm here.
Evangeline, you completely distorted my post and answered your own misconceptions.
I think the abomination of desolation is a blasphemous rite where the words of consecration are changed so there can be intercommunion. Lutherans. Prots believe communion meal and not a sacrifice. By changing the consecration prayers the bread remains bread.
We seem to be living out the prophecies of Anne Catherine Emmerich.
Anonymous, I can't seem to find your comment, I got lost in all the "Anonymouses", but if I did, my apologies. God bless you and all here for being earnest about the faith. We're all just doing our best under trying circumstances.
Do you think he took a real clot shot or just saline? Too bad he didn't take the real clot shot, because he might die sooner.
Evangeline is so sensible, I don't see where there are any misconceptions. George S: It may take awhile for the CHF to get him, but no more than 3 years. His colon won't give him that long. Our consolation is coming....
KWASNIEWSKI DOES NOT TELL THE SEMINARIAN TO ACCEPT THE COUNCIL INTERPRETED WITH THE RATIONAL PREMISE.SO HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN SCHISM AND NEITHER REJECT THE COUNCIL OR TRADITION.
Peter Kwasniewski writes another article/letter to a Catholic seminarian praising the Latin Mass and Catholic Tradition without the need to accept Vatican Council II. The seminarian will be in schism.He would be correct to reject Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally with a false premise.But he can accept the Council interpreted with the rational premise.So he does not have to be in schism and neither reject the Council or Tradition.
Kwasnieski himself does not want to interpret the Council with the rational premise.He wants to please the Left. Since he will not be in schism,with the rational premise, he would have to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.And he does not want to affirm EENS and neither would has he recommened it to any seminarian.
He would have to affirm the Syllablus of Errors with no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II. He does not recommend this to any one.
He would have to affirm the Athanasius Creed with no known exceptions of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance in 2021 since his talks and writings may be restricted by the Left and the Vatican.It is a career issue. So he does not recommend that the seminarian affirm the Council interpreted rationally.
So he does not tell the seminarian to affirm Tradition and also these three documents interpreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion.He says Catholic Tradition ended on the eve of Vatican Council II for him and he wants it like this for all seminarians too.
For him the only thing important is the Latin Mass even while denying de fide Church teachings which are not politically correct.
ALL THE BOOKS ON VATICAN COUNCIL II ARE WRITTEN WITH A FALSE PREMISE.POPE FRANCIS IS NOT MAGISTERIAL ON THE COUNCIL.
All the books on Vatican Council II throughout the world are written with a false premise.In general a false premise was used.The result is a false inference and non traditional conclusion. A rational premise should have been used. Then the inference would be rational and the conclusion would be traditional.The traditionalists (SSPX,FSSP) have also used the fake premise,like the liberals.
New books are needed.They must have the hermeneutic of continuity.A continuity is needed with the past Magisterium.A continuity is needed with extra ecclesiam nulla salus( with no known practical exceptions in 2021).Vatican Council II (rational) is in harmony with ,the Athanasius Creed.It says all need the Catholic faith for salvation ( with no known exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II).
Now we can re-read the Catechism of Pope Pius X, 24Q, 27Q.Being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are not practical exceptions in the present times(1965-2021).We can go out and proclaim the Good News knowing that all need to accept Jesus in the Catholic Church for salvation( to avoid Hell) and there are no known exceptions in other religions. The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846,1257 has to be re-interpreted rationally.It then supports the absolutist concept of Catholic salvation.
The interpretation of Vatican Council II by Pope Benedict and Pope Francis is irrational .It is not Magisterial.They need to re-interpret the Council, and other Magisterial documents rationally.Then there will be unity with the past Magisterium. Traditionis Custode, and other encylicals and Apostolic Letters of Pope Francis, interpret Vatican Council II with the fake premise. It is the same with Pope Paul VI and Pope John Paul II. They are irrational, heretical and schismatic on the Council.Catholics are not obliged to follow Pope Francis on Vatican Council II.
Pope Franics confuses hypothetical cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II.They are not hypothetical for him. They are objective cases for him. They are objective examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.They are known people saved without Catholic faith and the baptism of water .So they become practical exceptions to EENS, Syllabus of Errors, Athanasius Creed etc.If they were not visible they could not be exceptions for him.
But there are no such cases in our reality on earth. We cannot meet someone saved with the baptism of desire(LG 14) or invincible ignorance(LG 16) on earth.They are always invisible for us human beings. If any one was saved as such it could only be known to God. The norm for salvation is ‘faith and baptism’(AG 7).It is not invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire or LG 8,GS 22 etc.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and traditional and supports the norm for salvation.It is not just a pastoral Council.
ALL CATHOLICS ARE FREE TO INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY LIKE LIONEL ANDRADES INSTEAD OF IRRATIONALLY LIKE THE PRESENT TWO POPES.
EMPTY
All Catholics are free to interpret Vatican Council II rationally like Lionel Andrades instead of irrationally like the present two popes, the cardinals and bishops.They simply have to look at LG 8, LG 14,LG 16,UR 3,NA 2,GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II, as being ‘null sets’, deadwood and flotsam, empties.They have to be seen as only theoretical and speculative cases in 2021.They exist only in our mind.This is what they always were- hypothetical only.This changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
INVISIBLE-VISIBLE DISTINCTION IS IMPORTANT
It is imporant to be aware of the invisible-visible distinction.Most Catholics are already making the invisible-visible distinction when they interpret Vatican Council II.They assume that LG 8, LG 14,LG 16,UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2021.So they are projected as exceptions for EENS, the Syllabus of Errors etc.It is only when they start thinking about it they realize that these are physically invisible cases in real life.So they cannot be practical exceptions to EENS and Tradition.There really is no rupture with Tradition.
FOR THERE TO BE AN EXCEPTION, AN EXCEPTION MUST BE VISIBLE
Since for there to be an exception, an exception must exist.I give the example of an apple in a box of oranges.The apple is an exception not only because it is different but because it exists in that box.If it was not there in that box it would not be an exception.In the same way a catechumen, who desires the baptism of water and dies before receiving it and is saved is always a hypothetical case.So it is not an exception for Feeneyite EENS.The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston made an objective mistake.
AT THE PLACUIT DEO PRESS CONFERENCE(2018) CARDINAL LADARIA WAS CRITICAL OF NEO GNOSTICISM AND PELAGIANISM HERESY.NOW WE KNOW THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY. THOSE WHO AFFIRM CATHOLIC ORTHODOXY WOULD BE GNOSTIC
At the Placuit Deo press conference (2018) Cardinal Ladaria was critical of neo Gnosticism and Pelagianism heresy.Now we know that he was referring to Catholic orthodoxy.Those who affirm Catholic orthodoxy would be gnostic.It is similar to the political hate of the political Left.At the conference when he was asked to give specific examples of heresy in the present times, he would not do so.
So mortal sins of faith will officially be excommunicated by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).It will be enforced as new Catholic doctrine.The CDF will work for Satan instead of God.
REVERSE
The Church has gone into reverse on faith and morals.
The CDF’s critical statement on homosexual unions, was orthodoxy,It could be gnosticism in future, after Cardinal Ladaria retires.
In the 16th century gnosticism referred to heresy whch rejected Catholic orthodoxy. Now it is the opposite.
Since 1965 we have a political version of Vatican Council It' conclusion would be gnostic for the 16th century Magisterium and missionaries of that time.
SSPX GNOSTIC
In future when Vatican Council II is interpreted without the fake premise, inference and non traditional conclusion, it will support Tradition. With the rational premise it will not oppose Tradition like today. So then Vatican Council II will be considered heretical and gnostic.In future the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) could be labelled a gnostic organisation and legally not Catholic.They could be excommunicated.
Public signs of ‘the true Church’ will be prohibited.Bishop Robert Barron’s Word on Fire and the National Catholic Reporter, etc interpret Vatican Council II with a fake premise.They will be permitted.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/248689/pope-francis-nostalgia-is-the-siren-song-of-religious-life
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/08/pope-francis-wants-inculturation-with.html
FRANCIS COMPLAINS OF LITURGICAL ‘IDEOLOGY’
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/francis-criticizes-liturgical-ideology
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