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Tuesday, 25 June 2019

Bergoglio again denies the miracle of Jesus in multiplying the loaves and fishes!

It's not the first time he's said this, or hinted at it, but it is clearly the most blatant.

Bergoglio is a heretic. filthy, lying, rotten liar and deceiver.

Can you imagine the stench that is going to flow from his fetid corpse? 

The second verb is to give.  “Speaking” is thus followed by “giving”.  This was the case with Abraham who, after being blessed by Melchizedek, “gave him a tenth of everything” (Gen 14:20).  It was the case, too, with Jesus who after reciting the blessing, gave the loaves to be distributed among the crowd.  This tells us something very beautiful.  Bread is not only something to be consumed; it is a means of sharing.  Surprisingly, the account of the multiplication of the loaves does not mention the multiplication itself.  On the contrary, the words that stand out are: “break”, “give” and “distribute” (cf. Lk 9:16).  In effect, the emphasis is not on the multiplication but the act of sharing.  This is important.  Jesus does not perform a magic trick; he does not change five loaves into five thousand and then to announce: “There! Distribute them!”  No.  Jesus first prays, then blesses the five loaves and begins to break them, trusting in the Father.  And those five loaves never run out.  This is no magic trick; it is an act of trust in God and his providence.  
http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/homilies/2019/documents/papa-francesco_20190623_omelia-corpusdomini.html

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John 6 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition  

After these things Jesus went over the sea of Galilee, which is that of Tiberias.
And a great multitude followed him, because they saw the miracles which he did on them that were diseased.
Jesus therefore went up into a mountain, and there he sat with his disciples.
Now the pasch, the festival day of the Jews, was near at hand.
When Jesus therefore had lifted up his eyes, and seen that a very great multitude cometh to him, he said to Philip: Whence shall we buy bread, that these may eat?
And this he said to try him; for he himself knew what he would do.
Philip answered him: Two hundred pennyworth of bread is not sufficient for them, that every one may take a little.
One of his disciples, Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, saith to him:
There is a boy here that hath five barley loaves, and two fishes; but what are these among so many?
10 Then Jesus said: Make the men sit down. Now there was much grass in the place. The men therefore sat down, in number about five thousand.
11 And Jesus took the loaves: and when he had given thanks, he distributed to them that were set down. In like manner also of the fishes, as much as they would.
12 And when they were filled, he said to his disciples: Gather up the fragments that remain, lest they be lost.
13 They gathered up therefore, and filled twelve baskets with the fragments of the five barley loaves, which remained over and above to them that had eaten.
14 Now those men, when they had seen what a miracle Jesus had done, said: This is of a truth the prophet, that is to come into the world.
15 Jesus therefore, when he knew that they would come to take him by force, and make him king, fled again into the mountain himself alone.
16 And when evening was come, his disciples went down to the sea.
17 And when they had gone up into a ship, they went over the sea to Capharnaum; and it was now dark, and Jesus was not come unto them.
18 And the sea arose, by reason of a great wind that blew.
19 When they had rowed therefore about five and twenty or thirty furlongs, they see Jesus walking upon the sea, and drawing nigh to the ship, and they were afraid.
20 But he saith to them: It is I; be not afraid.
21 They were willing therefore to take him into the ship; and presently the ship was at the land to which they were going.
22 The next day, the multitude that stood on the other side of the sea, saw that there was no other ship there but one, and that Jesus had not entered into the ship with his disciples, but that his disciples were gone away alone.
23 But other ships came in from Tiberias; nigh unto the place where they had eaten the bread, the Lord giving thanks.
24 When therefore the multitude saw that Jesus was not there, nor his disciples, they took shipping, and came to Capharnaum, seeking for Jesus.
25 And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him: Rabbi, when camest thou hither?
26 Jesus answered them, and said: Amen, amen I say to you, you seek me, not because you have seen miracles, but because you did eat of the loaves, and were filled.
27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto life everlasting, which the Son of man will give you. For him hath God, the Father, sealed.
28 They said therefore unto him: What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered, and said to them: This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he hath sent.
30 They said therefore to him: What sign therefore dost thou shew, that we may see, and may believe thee? What dost thou work?
31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert, as it is written: He gave them bread from heaven to eat.
32 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say to you; Moses gave you not bread from heaven, but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
33 For the bread of God is that which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life to the world.
34 They said therefore unto him: Lord, give us always this bread.
35 And Jesus said to them: I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall not hunger: and he that believeth in me shall never thirst.
36 But I said unto you, that you also have seen me, and you believe not.
37 All that the Father giveth to me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me, I will not cast out.
38 Because I came down from heaven, not to do my own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 Now this is the will of the Father who sent me: that of all that he hath given me, I should lose nothing; but should raise it up again in the last day.
40 And this is the will of my Father that sent me: that every one who seeth the Son, and believeth in him, may have life everlasting, and I will raise him up in the last day.
41 The Jews therefore murmured at him, because he had said: I am the living bread which came down from heaven.
42 And they said: Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then saith he, I came down from heaven?
43 Jesus therefore answered, and said to them: Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father, who hath sent me, draw him; and I will raise him up in the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets: And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard of the Father, and hath learned, cometh to me.
46 Not that any man hath seen the Father; but he who is of God, he hath seen the Father.
47 Amen, amen I say unto you: He that believeth in me, hath everlasting life.
48 I am the bread of life.
49 Your fathers did eat manna in the desert, and are dead.
50 This is the bread which cometh down from heaven; that if any man eat of it, he may not die.
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven.
52 If any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever; and the bread that I will give, is my flesh, for the life of the world.
53 The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?
54 Then Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say unto you: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you.
55 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath everlasting life: and I will raise him up in the last day.
56 For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed.
57 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, abideth in me, and I in him.
58 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father; so he that eateth me, the same also shall live by me.
59 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead. He that eateth this bread, shall live for ever.
60 These things he said, teaching in the synagogue, in Capharnaum.
61 Many therefore of his disciples, hearing it, said: This saying is hard, and who can hear it?
62 But Jesus, knowing in himself, that his disciples murmured at this, said to them: Doth this scandalize you?
63 If then you shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
64 It is the spirit that quickeneth: the flesh profiteth nothing. The words that I have spoken to you, are spirit and life.
65 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, who they were that did not believe, and who he was, that would betray him.
66 And he said: Therefore did I say to you, that no man can come to me, unless it be given him by my Father.
67 After this many of his disciples went back; and walked no more with him.
68 Then Jesus said to the twelve: Will you also go away?
69 And Simon Peter answered him: Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
70 And we have believed and have known, that thou art the Christ, the Son of God.
71 Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve; and one of you is a devil?
72 Now he meant Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon: for this same was about to betray him, whereas he was one of the twelve.

24 comments:

IslesRoo said...

Didn't you know? There was no walking on water either. The real miracle was that Jesus invented the first surfboard.

Kathleen1031 said...

He's all about sharing. I would like to know why the pope does not share the living quarters he has, lavish by most standards, with the migrants he insists on bringing into Italy? Why has the Vatican not opened up the grounds to many families of migrants, there is plenty of room! Why do these men not live what they preach? He harangues Catholics to "share", but he won't open up his quarters, Santa Marta, or the Vatican to migrants? I can't do it unless he shows me how, so could someone please ask him?
As far as the miracles of the loaves and fishes, he is not a believer, it's so obvious. Nothing supernatural ever happened, because he's a materialist. He sees no value in baptism, things you can't see, what is that to him. You can't wear it, eat it, or live in it, so, it's useless to him.

Anonymous said...

This miracle was prefigured by Eliza in the Old Testament when he multiplied bread. 2 Kings 4:42-44. According to modernists there's a natural explanation for the miracles of Christ, they do not believe in the supernatural, which ultimately means they don't believe in God. Wonder how he would explain away the raising of Lazarus from the dead.

Tom A. said...

More proof that these modernists are heretics and therefore cannot be Catholic hierarchy.

Michael Dowd said...

Not surprising. A heretic is as a heretic does.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Tom A, your thesis is correct, you just havn't gone back in the timeline of the Christian Church enough.

The Orthodox believe the Latin Church first committed a heresy at the Third council of Toledo when they changed the already established "Filioque" of the Nicene Creed, minus the representatives from the Eastern Church.
Borgoglio is the reasonable culminating result of all these heresies and made up legalisms of the West.
A centralized Church in which there is no escape to a sane right thinking Bishop's Diocese, is a trap for the Faithful who, even now, believe that rabid sodomites are truly Ordained priests.
No one is correcting the heretics because no one can when he is a Pope.
Peter was NOT the first Pope because Christians did not use that term at that time. It was reserved for pantheistic pagan Caesars and lo, look what we call "Pope" today !
Tom go research when the title was first given to a Bishop of Rome.


elpine flower said...

Off topic but does anyone see the correlation between satanist Bernardin and Opus Dei?
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/bernardin-homosexual-predator-satanist
ST. MARY OF THE ANGELS, CHICAGO
SEIZED BY CARDINAL BERNARDIN AND THE OPUS DEI CULT IN 1990
http://www.ourladyisgod.com/i-freemasonry-in-catholic-church-StMaryoftheAngelsChicago.php

Dan said...

Just a reminder. Share everything. Except the gospel of course. THAT would be proselytizing!

Johnno said...

Dear Anonymous & obviously schismatic Orthodox,

The Queen of Heaven believes otherwise considering she, and God, place the reunification of East with West under the figure of a Pope who is obedient to God.

Funny enough for you, our man Bergolio over here, and his ghost Kasper, are very very agreeable with you that this whole 'Pope' thing should go away in favour of an Eastern model and decentralization.

So the heretics are all on your side and desire your model! Funny, ain't it?

Adulterous remarriages are also a thing some of the East has in common with Kasper and Francis.

Thanks, but no thanks. God and the saints gave us advance notice about this guy Frank, so that we don't need to go full schismatically stupid.

And of course you can correct a Pope. The reason those guys aren't doing so is not because the system is at fault, but because they are all snivelling cowards trying to end their 'careers' as peacefully and comfortably as possible.

But why stop at centralization only at the Pope? If there's no need for any Pope, then why logically is there any need for any Patriarch or metropolitan or local bishop? Ain't that all the same thing? Why not decentralize further until Mrs. Smith is running the show? Why stop the buck only after the Pope? Bishops can be just as bad if not worse. Heck so could your local parish priest. So goes the schismatic logic of the East. How's that working out for ya? You claiming there's no liberals or heretics or ecumenists amongst your factions?

Anonymous said...

Wrong Johnno.........Try Eastern Rite Catholic.
My point being re: decentralizing is just that. With a heretic as Pope , at one time the entire Church leadership gathered and argued the Truth.
i.e.Athanasius against the world who ,btw ,was an Eastern Bishop.

Now for the last century or so , only grovelers hold these positions in the Catholic Hierarchy.
Grovelers who seem to be missing some male parts like the Castrati Choir so beloved in the Vatican at one time.
..The Orthodox do have a point though....one can just choose to attend a more Orthodox church in a nearby vicinity if Fr X preaches anything against what was taught by the Early Church Fathers.

Anonymous said...

Johnno,
Please cite your reference quote for the 'Queen of Heaven."
In the book ,"Our Lady of Soufanieh", documenting the apparitions in Syria to a young married Catholic stigmatist, married to an Orthodox husband and approved by both Roman and Eastern Catholic Bishops and by the Orthodox, there was NO mention of the Pope per say. What was mentioned was Unity between the East and Western Christian Church communities as it was for the first thousand years.
https://gloria.tv/article/UNwVUpK7UBom2qdooa887GMbV

Brian said...

Vox, here is a quote from the Oath Against Modernism (1910) which has to do with the reality and worth of miracles and prophecies. Not for Bergoglio (stage name: Francis.)

“Secondly, I accept and acknowledge the external proofs of revelation, that is, divine acts and especially miracles and prophecies as the surest signs of the divine origin of the Christian religion and I hold that these same proofs are well adapted to the understanding of all eras and all men, even of this time.”

Irenaeus said...

Ick.

Johnno said...

Eastern Rite Anonymous,

If we were back in Biblical times, you'd be there complaining about how terrible a job that Saul guy is doing, and that we ought not have any of this 'one monarchy' business. Divided Tribes would work just swell! And if we didn't like one tribe, we'd just go to the other... oh, wait...

David would have a few words to say to you if you want to run off on your own and form your own little nation independent of the true King that God chooses. But I do believe the Protestants like your advice to go off and find a suitable Fr. X to be Christ's new head.

Anyone who's familiar with the Scriptures knows what Christ meant when He gave the keys of His Household to Peter, which the reigning monarch does to have one guy in charge in his absence to open and shut the doors of his household while he's away. Nobody cares if you're having a bad time of him. The master of the house will sort that crap out when He returns and there's an open complaint box.

But again, why just stop at the Pope? Bishops will present the same problem. Why not do away with them too? What are you going to do when too many of your bishops apostatize? Are you counting on there being at least one Bishop X that you can run to to be safe??? Gee... it almost sounds as if God wants to guarantee that there'll be at least one guy you could always visibly turn towards during such times... how very interesting! Who could that be?

Besides, you don't even know if Frankie is the Pope, is still the pope, or ever was the pope. The jury's out as far as everyone outside that circle of electors knows, I suspect the other guy who's also dressed like a Pope might have an answer that might shed some interesting context on all this. But the truth about this situation isn't obligated to reveal itself to us on our schedule.

But in the end, nobody's getting off the Ark. Frankly, I doubt you'd recognize Athanasius as legit if you heard him back then. You'd be arguing that he's the one solitary crazy guy causing division when everybody else is so united and harmonious. Who died and made him everybody's bishop above all the other bishops?

Johnno said...

And my reference comes from the Queen of Heaven herself at the apparitions of Fatima, following the most spectacular witnessed and documented miracle in modern times not seen since the time of Joshua, which foretold practically everything that is occuring at our present time geopolitically as well as spiritually within the Church, whilst manifesting a fact about the Heavens that modern science rejects, and which those there Pope guys in Rome defended with the weight of their authority and whom to this day are scorned for it, but have since been vindicated by the advancement of science.

https://fatima.org/about/fatima-the-facts/

There's a reason the Queen of Heaven singles out the Pope and all those bishops "in union with him" to commit a certain task that will produce results that will affect the entire world. But she warns it'll be done late - meaning that there's gonna be some Popes who are derelict in their duty, and also some implication from prophecies that God will send the Church some apostasy that will occur from "the top." Not several tops. This as a punishment upon us, justly deserved.

So we've already been informed about these days. And she didn't care to pass that message through anyone in the East either. I know this must ruffle the feathers, but that's how it is. God ain't moving house no matter how many witchcraft sodomites there are pissing on the lawn.

I look forward to His glorious comeback to clean house, which will likely first involve war and the destruction of Rome and the complete breakdown of secular order, and that train's still scheduled to arrive at the station.

There's a reason the death penalty and using it is just. A lot of evil men should've been put to death who weren't. Given we were too soft and neglected this duty because 'luv' and 'tolerance' and 'usury', so God ultimately needs to do it Himself, and all of us are tangled up with the weeds. But what's a little collateral damage? Do we have any right to complain?

Stephen Lowe said...

or it was a severe global cooling episode and the water froze. it could go either way.

Anonymous said...

As I recall Our Holy Mother at Fatima encouraged the daily Rosary and the First
Saturday devotions .She asked for the Pope to consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart.
More specifically concerning the Pope, She predicted hatred of the Pope to the point that little Jacinta was sacrificing her suffering and praying for him relentlessly.
Why?
Because along with him ,he can bring many souls into perdition as is so eloquently expressed here in the com box full of rants against his person.
Are you praying your Rosary daily for the Pope Johnno? Have you fulfilled your First Saturday devotions?
Humility and Prayer are pleasing to God and as far as being Catholic is concerned, read St Vincent of Lerins advice on that topic .
Read the Didachi Johnno, aka ,the teaching of the Apostles to the Early Christian communities.
See what and who they instructed the people a False Prophet was and how to make determinations in that regard . They were told ONLY to listen and host those clerics who were not of that ilk.
In other words Johnno, only entertain Orthodox Catholic priests who preached the Universal Faith believed by everyone everywhere who is Christian.
Now back to the Queen of Heaven and earth.
What was it She said at LaSalette about Rome and the Pope Johnno?
Clearly you might even want to read the last Book of the Bible concerning Rome. Or perhaps just convert to Judaism?

Johnno said...

I don't know where you're going with your list of things you demand I do Mr. Anonymous, outside of some pathetic attempt to make me look as un-Catholic as possible by mere empty sly assertion that I don't do or am ignorant about all of the above things you listed.

As I said, thanks, but we are already aware of all of the above from Fatima to La Salette etc. which is why we're not going half-cocked into insanity to claim we don't need Popes or bishops or any hierarchy in the Church, which is what you inevitably destroy by your rebellion because you don't like the time God put you on Earth here to live in.

So all that only strengthens my point about the fact that God recognizes the Pope as the Head of the Church, and just as God can grant good or bad Kings to Israel, He can allow bad Popes or even anti-Popes or possibly a prolonged period of sedevacantism to occur with the bulk of us tossed into exile if He so decided it necessary. And when God does this, you have no choice but to suck it up. You don't go off and deny the divinely instituted monarchy, because ultimately that's what you are doing. By denying God's representative on Earth with the keys of authority over His household, you are denying the Kingship of Christ, and the Queenship of His Holy Mother. If that's what you are all about then that's certainly some strange 'orthodoxy' that you follow.

Proves to us which one actually read and understands the last book of the Bible. The Jews certainly understand something more than you do about the Kingdom of God, given the ignorance you've displayed here.

Tom A. said...

Game, Set, Match to Johnno.

Anonymous said...

The only Jew that counts in understanding the Kingdom of God is GOD and He said ,"The Kingdom of God is within you."
Did that slip your collective minds?

Frederick Jones said...

Why "filthy"? No doubt the Pope washes. He may even follow the example of americans and shower every day.

Anonymous said...

Johnno . we have gone for lengthy times without a Pope in the past. We have endured antiPopes , Popes who have had illegitimate children and mistresses galore ....but study history Johnno before you stand on your theological soapbox com box .......but before you do please go back in history and read about the early Cristian Church.Yje word "Pope" was absent for centuries UNTIL Rome decided it was going to be an earthly Kingdom ordained by God.
Constantine made the same error as did Russia.
Yes you are watching the demise of perverted Rome now.
Jesus stressed to His Apostles that He was not the Zionist sword swinging rebel the Jews expected.
Ponder......
"The Kingdom of God is within you."



Anonymous said...

Poor Louie,
The long winded name calling hate monger attack dog has arrived to stir up discord yet again.
https://akacatholic.com/weaponization-of-youth/#comments