Friday, 11 January 2019

Former fledgling Latin Mass parish in St. John New Brunswick now closed and planned as a banquet hall

The Catholic faith in Canada's maritime provinces of New Brunswick (from whence came my mother), Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and the Province of Newfoundland, is in free fall. From Saint John to Moncton, from Antigonish to Halifax, Charlottetown to St. John's. 

We can blame faithless bishops and pervert priests, but the fact is, there is nobody to blame but the once faithful Catholics who cared not enough about their faith to fight for it.

This is the parish of Holy Trinity where a small community within the parish began a small Latin Mass apostate. Gone. Along with the church.

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Kathleen1031 said...

Tragic. But the powers that be don't care, and most of the "Catholics" don't care, so what can you do. Still, I'd rather burn a church to the ground than see it sold for a mosque.
When the Lord returns we won't need these buildings anyway.

Dan said...

Personally, I CAN blame faithless bishops and pervert priests for the loss of faith among once faithful Catholics... it's happening to me!

Vox Cantoris said...

Dan, if that were entirely true, you would not be reading or commenting on this blog.

It is YOUR responsibility to keep your faith.

Brother, do not let these bastards drive you out!

Ian said...

I can't find evidence of a TLM community, only the Cornerstone Baptist Church. Was the TLM celebrated in this church?

Ian said...

Found it. It's Holy Trinity.

Tom A. said...

Personally, I prefer the banquet hall decor over their horrid Novus Ordo set up anyday.

Anonymous said...

We witnessed our wonderful ecclesia dei priest being forced to train a perv Diocesan the TLM , only then to be forced out by the perv Bishop who permitted him to start a Traditional Mass Diocesan Mission Church.
Now there is whole new group of pew people populating the parish who are clueless as to what and who is celebrating the Mass there.
The new "priest" graduated with and parties with his seminary grad class disordered crowd in this Diocese. Former rectory employees have confided what they have seen and heard in their rectories despite being threatened to keep their mouths shut ."What happens in the rectories must stay in the rectory." ,is what they have been told. Now tell me,are these men even Ordained priests surely not having the Proper Intention for reception of the Sacrament of Holy Orders after being recruited by a homosexual Diocesan Vocation Director and Seminary Rector?

TLM said...

AMEN, Vox!! Dan: These men do NOT represent the Church of Christ! But that doesn't mean that the Church of Christ no longer exists! When Christ said: "The gates of hell shall not prevail against my Church"....he meant that Satan would not be able to completely destroy His Church. The key word here is 'prevail'. He (I don't think) ever intended to say that the Church wouldn't be assaulted. The Church has been beat to a pulp before and not gone away. The same will happen this time. Yes, we are getting beat to a pulp by bastards that don't have a Catholic bone in their bodies, but....Christ will never leave us in His Church. They will never 'kill' the Church, even if some day we have to go underground to practice the faith. Even if there are very few left. Please trust His words...His promise! I know it has been very very painful to watch all this happen, for all of us! I myself was so distraught after the Penn. report and McCarrick and the financial corruption that goes all the way to Rome that I didn't go to Mass for 2 weeks. But.....I prayed the Rosary and the Blessed Mother helped me see that leaving was tantamount to leaving Jesus side on the Cross. She brought me back. I will not leave Him on the Cross!! As Fr. Holloway said in a recent interview by Dr. Marshall: "Instead of leaving the burning building, we have to learn to run back into it!" To FIGHT for it! To FIGHT for His Church successful or not, and try with all of our heart and soul to help other souls reach their heavenly home.(and in this way we will save our own!) Yes, it's tough, but we were BORN for this! During this time in the history of the Church, the 'Church Militant' has never been more important! That's US!! The Church is being crucified, but will never die forever, and Christ will NEVER leave us! Hang on if even by your fingernails! Prayers for you and all of us! May God bless you and the Blessed Mother protect you and keep you under her Mantle.

Lazarus Gethsemane said...

Fulton Sheen 1948 ~ “[Satan] will set up a counterchurch which will be the ape of the [Catholic] Church. . . . It will have all the notes and characteristics of the Church, but in reverse and emptied of its divine content.”

Anonymous said...

Illegitimati non carborundum

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:18

Rats can be illigit AND INVALID if they became priests because they are sodomites who wish respect and access to other young men.
ALL Sacramental Receptions without the Proper Intention are invalid.

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

Dear Vox. You are spot on right when you remind people that they have the responsibility to learn and keep the Faith.

The other side of that coin is mere clericalism

TLM said...

True Anonymous 4:18. And is one to KNOW who is who unless they are outed by victims? At least that is beginning to happen with some, but it's slow going.

Tom A. said...

Can you define clericalism? You do know it is a derogatory term first used by enemies of the Catholic Faith.

Tom A. said...

And let us remember who has the authority and protection of the Holy Ghost to teach us the Faith.

Peter Lamb said...

Christ built his Church on the foundation rock of St.Peter. To him and his successors He gave the Keys; the power of loosing and
binding; of preserving and passing on the Faith, intact and incorrupt, as he received, it under the guidance and protection of the Holy Ghost. The pope is the sovereign Visible Head of Christ's Church and the Vicar of Christ. He rules the Church by the authority of Christ Himself. Christ's Church is a Monarchy. It is not a Democracy. He is the Teacher, we are the Taught. In matters of Faith, Morals and Church Governance, we obey him as we would submit to and obey Christ Himself. This is not "papolatry", this is Catholic doctrine. Of course none of this applies to bergoglio and judeo-masonic mates, who is/were not Pope/s, or Catholic/s.

Of course, this modern fashion of laymen, or any cleric, sifting the teaching of him whom they recognize as being a true Pope, according to their own opinions, is a gross protestant aberration unknown to Catholics.

Widespread today, is the misconception that the Church’s, or the Pope’s Authority derives from their inability to be wrong, but this is not the case. Rather, the Church and the Pope are authoritative because they are the divinely-appointed Teacher, infallible, or not. This is beautifully explained by Canon George Smith in his 1935 essay, “Must I Believe It?”. Thus, the Pope has the right and the power to bind his subjects’ consciences, not because he is infallible, but because he is the Vicar of Christ. This is something continually ignored and denied by the SSPX and the various “resistance traditionalists.”

Pope Pius IX, published Redditae Sunt almost 20 years before the Declaration of papal infallibility:
"In fact, Venerable Brother, you are not ignorant of the truth that nothing should be nearer to a Catholic Bishop, nothing is more obligatory for him, than heartfelt respect for the supreme power of this Chair of St. Peter, whence flows sacerdotal unity, the ordination of bishops, and the government of the Church; than to defend with all his strength the rights of this See and to honor them, splendid as they are with an authority, not human, but divine; than to attach himself firmly to the Sovereign Pontiff, to recognize him, faithfully to render to him all respect and obedience, this Pontiff, placed in this See, who has received from Our Lord Himself in the person of the Blessed Prince of the Apostles, all power to feed the sheep and the lambs, to confirm his brethren, to rule and govern the whole Church throughout the world.
(Pope Pius IX, Apostolic Letter Redditae Sunt, Jan. 6, 1851; excerpted in Papal Teachings: The Church, p. 153.)

Nor can we pass over in silence the audacity of those who, not enduring sound doctrine, contend that “without sin and without any sacrifice of the Catholic profession assent and obedience may be refused to those judgments and decrees of the Apostolic See, whose object is declared to concern the Church's general good and her rights and discipline, so only it does not touch the dogmata of faith and morals.” But no one can be found not clearly and distinctly to see and understand how grievously this is opposed to the Catholic dogmaof the full power given from God by Christ our Lord Himself to the Roman Pontiff of feeding, ruling and guiding the Universal Church. (Pope Pius IX, Encyclical Quanta Cura, n. 5.)

Peter Lamb said...

"... contempt of the Church's authority is opposed to the command of Christ and consequently opposes the apostles and their successors, the Church's ministers who speak as their representatives. He who hears you, hears me; and he who despises you, despises me [Lk 10:16]; and the Church is the pillar and firmament of truth, as the apostle Paul teaches [1 Tim 3:15]. In reference to these words St. Augustine says: “Whoever is without the Church will not be reckoned among the sons, and whoever does not want to have the Church as mother will not have God as father.”
Therefore, venerable brothers, keep all these words in mind and often reflect on them. Teach your people great reverence for the Church's authority which has been directly established by God. Do not lose heart. With St. Augustine We say that “all around us the waters of the flood are roaring, that is, the multiplicity of conflicting teaching. We are not in the flood but it surrounds us. We are hard pressed but not overwhelmed, buffeted but not submerged.”(Pope Leo XII, Encyclical Ubi Primum, nn. 22-23.)
…So it has been a common characteristic both of the ancient heretics and of the more recent Protestants -- whose disunity in all their other tenets is so great -- to attack the authority of the Apostolic See. Butnever at any time were they able by any artifice or exertion to make this See tolerate even a single one of their errors. (Pope Pius IX, Encyclical Noscitis et Nobiscum, nn. 16-17.)
When one loves the pope one does not stop to debate about what he advises or demands, to ask how far the rigorous duty of obedience extends and to mark the limit of this obligation. When one loves the pope, one does not object that he has not spoken clearly enough, as if he were obliged to repeat into the ear of each individual his will, so often clearly expressed, not only viva voce, but also by letters and other public documents; one does not call his orders into doubt on the pretext – easily advanced by whoever does not wish to obey – that they emanate not directly from him, but from his entourage; one does not limit the field in which he can and should exercise his will; one does not oppose to the authority of the pope that of other persons, however learned, who differ in opinion from the pope. Besides, however great their knowledge, their holiness is wanting, for there can be no holiness where there is disagreement with the pope. (Pope St. Pius X, Address to the Priests of the Apostolic Union, Nov. 18, 1912; in Acta Apostolicae Sedis 4 [1912], p. 695)
To the shepherds alone was given all power to teach, to judge, to direct; on the faithful was imposed the duty of following their teaching, of submitting with docility to their judgment, and of allowing themselves to be governed, corrected, and guided by them in the way of salvation. Thus, it is an absolute necessity for the simple faithful to submit in mind and heart to their own pastors, and for the latter to submit with them to the Head and Supreme Pastor. (Pope Leo XIII, Apostolic Letter Epistola Tua, 1885)

Peter Lamb said...

There is plenty more, but I will stop for some sort of brevity. Space is inadequate to discuss Papal Infallibility, but let me squeeze a few facts in: Vatican I did NOT limit the Pope's Infallibility; the Ordinary Universal magisterium is every bit as infallible as the Solemn magisterium; the Solemn magisterium is simply part of the Ordinary magisterium; Catholics are obliged to submit to both.
"The Holy Apostolic See and the Roman Pontiff have primacy in the entire world. The Roman Pontiff is the Successor of Blessed Peter, the Prince of the Apostles, true Vicar of Christ, Head of the whole Church, Father and Teacher of all Christians." (Pope Benedict XIV, Apostolic Constitution Etsi Pastoralis, May 26, 1742; excerpted in Papal Teachings: The Church, p. 32.)
"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff." (Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam Sanctam, Nov. 18, 1302.)
But remember: None of the above applies to bergoglio et al!

Tom A. said...

Bravo Peter Lamb. It could not be said more clearly or definitively. The faithful have no right whatsoever to resist their duly authorized teachers on faith and morals.

Amateur Brain Surgeon said...

Good Lord Lamb You are a Knee Jerk Papal Loyalist in search of a Pope to obey without using your intellect.

What Saint Vincent of Lerins taught in his Commonitorium is putatively gainsaid by the opinion of a Canon?

You got that from your Pope Mario Derksen, didn't you?

As to the other citations, they all presuppose that which is being taught is not novelty.

Guess which Saint was cited by Vatican 1?

Saint Vincent - footnote 26 if memory serves) so your argument is that Vatican 1 got it wrong in citing the work you claim is invalid.

Ya'll never make any sense at all


Anonymous said...

ABS, you discredited yourself on multiple blogs in defending your Bishop Barbarito who slandered a priest for turning in a credible clerical pederast who admitted the Bishop knew he abused boys in India too and who was sentenced to six years in jail.
Fr John Gallagher ONLY lost his Libel suit against the Bishop because the Diocesan Lawyers pulled out the separation of church and state card trying to turn the Bishop's libelous claim of Fr Gallagher's insanity the Bishop launched, into a disgruntled employee of the church case.
This is why more hetero priests do not blow the whistle on the perverts who live and act out among them , because they know the legal game plans of the Bishops.

Barbarito is even ON RECORD in his previous Diocese for stating to the Press that no pederast priest's name should ever be made public.

Anonymous said...

RE: comment above

This is the Bishop ABS defends because he knows people who did not like Fr Gallagher .Reason? He did not go outside and shake hands with the Hispanic parishioners after Mass.
Here's the REAL story.

God Bless this decent priest!

Anonymous said...

I guess the takeaway from this episode is that the Bishop of W Palm concluded Fr Gallagher must be nuts if he thought the V2 church would do the right thing.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:41,
In case you missed it Opus Dei JP2 with his pro life message lured many decent people into the church and the priesthood .

Most of them youth and converts whom OD likes best because they did not have their eyes open pre and during Vat 2.
Not their fault but the snakes bit them anyway.

sackcloth and ashes said...

There is still a mustard seed of faith here in Newfoundland. May God send more faithful labourers into His harvest

Pulvis said...

The Lain Mass community in Saint John is still here despite the closure of Holy Trinity and the moving of our priest to Fredericton. We have a First Saturday Mass every month at St. Pius X Church and we have formed the Saint John Latin Mass Society as a chapter of Una Voce Canada. We may be down but we are not out. Please pray for us.