Bergoglian Pinto: "The four cardinals who have written to Pope could lose their cardinalate"

In the world of politics, this is not an uncommon thing, -- make a statement about something that is being considered in order to test the waters. Consider for example the kerfuffle over the potential of Donald J. Trump's appointment of Mitt Romney as American Secretary of State. I don't believe for one moment that he will do it, but he is sending out a message to test the reaction. Aside from what I really think is Trump's public eviscerating of Romney, as a vanquishment of the man who so attacked him without justification. The people have spoken and won't tolerate it.

Sadly the Vatican practices the same politics. The centre of the Church of Christ on Earth engages  such sleazy and vulgar practices. Nobody should be surprised that this "trial balloon" is being floated. I've expected it, in fact, I expect it to happen.

If Bergoglio dares to strip the four Cardinals of their red hats, then he will prove himself to be a vindictive and corrupt man, a narcissist and Peronist. A man who is driven by his own ambition and ego, thinking that every action taken by him and every thought that enters into his mind is divine inspiration. He will, if he does this, enshrine heresy. He will have proclaimed heresy because he will have silenced, or at least removed, all authorised opposition.

And a heretic cannot be Pope!

http://infocatolica.com/?t=noticia&cod=27894

Vito Pinto Mons. "The four cardinals who have written to Pope could lose their cardinalate"

Mons. Pío Vito Pinto, Dean of the highest authority of the Catholic Church in the process of nullity, delivered a lecture at the University Ecclesiastical San Damaso de Madrid. Vigorously, he has said that the four cardinals who have asked the Pope Francisco to clarify some doubts about his apostolic exhortation Laetitia Amoris have committed a grave scandal by publishing this letter in the media.

The Cardinals have created a scandal? Not the Pope himself who has affirmed that those living in adultery can be openly admitted to Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin? Not the Bishops of Buenos Aires, or the Vicar of Rome? 

The Cardinals have every moral and legal right to ask the question and expect an answer. in fact, they have a duty before Christ. Their loyalty, your loyalty and mine is with Christ, not the Pope insofar as he separates himself from Christ's truth. The Pope is not a god. Papolatry is a sin and a scandal and Dean Pinto has committed it. He has committed a scandal by being the mouthpiece of Bergoglio and issuing threats to these four Cardinals, and any others who stand up for the truth of Catholic doctrine and faith.

In statements to Religion Confidential, Pio Vito has shown that these four cardinals, like some others in the Church who doubt the reform of Pope Francis and his apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia, are questioning " two synods of bishops on marriage and family do not a synod but two! An ordinary and another extraordinary. You cannot doubt the action of the Holy Spirit."

This man is deluded. The Holy Spirit, the Third Person of the Most Holy Trinity cannot lie, he cannot change. To suggest that God the Holy Spirit is directing Bergoglio and his minions to destroy Catholic doctrine, sanction mortal sin and permit sacrilege is blasphemy.

The two Synods did not vote to allow Holy Communion for those in adultery. This is a lie. To do that, a Synod would require a two-thirds vote, this did not happen. Nor could it happen. A Synod cannot overturn doctrine. The Pope can ignore a Synod's advice. In this case, he did. He acted in spite of it. The Synod was manipulated, the evidence was there, out in the open attested to be no less than Cardinal Pell. The Pope has no authority to change doctrine, he has no authority to authorise that two-thousand years of Catholic practice can be overturned by one man.

Cardinals Walter Brandmüller, Raymond Burke, Carlo Caffarra and Joachim Meisner asked the Holy Father some doubts about the Amoris Laetitia.  Pope  Francis did not answer and prelates made the letter public through the media. "What Church defends these cardinals? The Pope is faithful to the doctrine of Christ. What they have done is a very serious scandal that could even lead to the Holy Father to withdraw the cardinal's hat as has happened at some other time of the Church," said Pio Vito to this Confidential. The dean of the Roman Rota clarifies: "Which is not to say that the Pope withdraw their status as cardinals, but could do."

Roberto de Mattei on Rorate Caeli blog wrote on the matter of the removal of Cardinals back in 2014, it was after Cardinal Burke was removed from the Apostolic Signatura.

The Pope inasmuch as he is supreme pastor of the universal Church, has full right to remove a bishop or cardinal from his office, even a distinguished one. A well-known case was the one of Cardinal Louis Billot (1846-1931). He was one of the greatest theologians of the 20th Century, who replaced his cardinal’s hat into the hands of Pius XI, with whom he had had differences regarding Action Francaise, and ended his days, as a simple Jesuit, at the house of his order in Galloro. Another striking case is Cardinal Josef Mindszenty, who was removed by Paul VI from his office as Archbishop of Esztergom and Primate of Hungary, as a result of his opposition to the Vatican ostpolitik.

The case of Cardinal Mindszenty was particularly egregious and a disgrace of Paul VI's papacy. Mindszenty was persecuted by the communists. The Vatican's policy of ostpolitik

was a scandal and a betrayal of Catholics now being waged again in China against the underground, faithful Church.   

This is also a warning to any other Cardinals and Bishops, particularly those in dioceses, to stand down and keep their mouths shut. As we look around we will see silence from them, until such time perhaps as enough of a force mounts against this error. The reality is in many dioceses, the Ordinary is well aware that this Pope is a vindictive man and will remove them leaving their flock to be devoured by someone of Bergoglio's own choosing. Think Chicago here. I fully expect that the next Cardinal on his way out is Marc Ouellet.

During the conference, Pius Vito made it clear to the audience that the Pope has not responded directly to them four cardinals, 'but has indirectly told that they see only white or black , when in the Church there are shades of colors." Few Catholics calling for the annulment Confidential religion also asked Mons. Pius Vito if not better open hand to divorced and remarried and grant marriage annulment, before a civil marriage so they can marry in the Church and receive the Eucharist. "The reform of the marriage process of Pope Francis wants to reach more people. The percentage of people seeking marriage annulment is very small. The Pope said that communion is not only good Catholics. Francisco says: how to reach the most excluded people? Many people, with the reform of Pope may request the annulment, but not others, "said the Dean of the Roman Rota.

The Cardinal is correct, the actual number of Catholics seeking a Decree of Nullity is very small relative to the number who simply divorce and remarry, civilly. Pope Bergoglio has made the outrageous statement that most Catholic marriages are invalid. If that is the case, then what does it matter, he is right, the presumption that the Sacramental Theology that the Sacraments, including Matrimony, are always valid unless proven otherwise be damned. The Pope had no business making this statement, but the very fact that he did and believes it, leads one to understand his motivation. The reality is that the very few Catholics who divorce and remarry civilly and want to come back to the Sacraments with a true heart and contrition, do; through the usual way - if not possible to return to the real spouse, then repentance, and living a life of continence. I know people who have done this. The actual number of those who wish to return without the normative way is even smaller than those who decide not to seek decrees of nullity in the first place.

In this matter, Pinto is deluded or intentionally misleading. Therefore, there must be another reason why Bergoglio and his minions have gone down this road. More than once in the last few weeks, Bergoglio has used the phrase, "motus in fine velocior," - the movement at the end goes faster. We know that the Bergoglio confidant and ghostwriter, Victor Emmanuel Fernadez has said about him:

"The pope must have his reasons, because he knows very well what he’s doing. He must have an objective that we don’t understand yet. You have to realize that he is aiming at a reform that is irreversible. If one day he should intuit that he’s running out of time and he doesn’t have enough time to do what the Spirit is asking him, you can be sure he will speed up."

What are we to conclude from this "speeding up?"

• Bergoglio knows his time is short due to health and will die soon.

• Bergoglio and his minions know that they must ram this heresy and sacrilege through before enough Catholics wake up and rise up against them.

• Bergoglio and his minions know that their generation is quickly dying and that those coming up in the next generation as priests will be formed by Summorum Pontificum and become valiant soldiers of Christ. This is why he is attacking "rigid" seminarians and will soon take moves against orthodox seminaries as he has done to prevent Ordinaries from establishing new Orders without his approval.

It really doesn't matter. The fact is, by their actions, these men, including the Bishop of Rome, have revealed to the faithful that they have no faith. They hate the faith, they hate the Catholic Church. They may not know it, but that is what is revealed by their actions. At best, they have drunk from the whore known as Modernism, "the synthesis of all heresies."

When we hear a Pope speak such words as motus in fine velocior, remember who else is angry because "his time is short."

Further reading on these matter can be found at:

https://www.returntofatima.org/2015/02/motus-in-fine-velocior/

http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/motus-fine-velocior-3306

The article concludes:

In this regard, he stressed the key pontificate Francisco, set out in paragraph 4 of Bula who wrote the Jubilee of Mercy "come to mind the words laden with meaning that John XXIII spoke at the opening of Council to indicate the way forward: ` in our time, the spouse of Christ prefers to use the medicine of mercy rather than take up arms severity . The Catholic Church, by raising through this Ecumenical Council torch of Catholic truth, wants to be friendly mother of all benign, patient, full of mercy and kindness to separated children." Unlike with Protestants Some voices say that the Church might be embracing the Protestant Reformation, the Dean of the Rota explains that "Luther destroyed the Catholic faith of the apostles. The Catholic Church believes that in the Eucharist Jesus Christ is present, and Protestantism does not believe in the real presence of Christ in communion. This is the big difference."

In this respect and during the conference, he recalled that during the synod of bishops, some Synod fathers asked the Pope for a new theological treatise on marriage and Francisco ruled it since said that other parents had already made it clear theology of marriage. (translation confusion)

He recalled that the Pope's message center Francisco is to all those who have felt, or feel, discarded or injured by the Church. He also noted that currently, many people communicant indiscriminately." A nun told me there divorced or living together who are communing. And what must the Church say, yes or no? Pope Francis wants a church close to town."

How wonderful to know that the Church is now governed by those who take the word of some nun, probably in a pant-suit.

Hey, Tom Rosica, is this the "Francis Effect" you wanted?

Thomas J. Rosica, the erstwhile papal spokesman, executive producer or the little watched Salt + Light Television and a member of the rapidly declining, Basilian Congregation in Toronto, produced a video called The Francis Effect.

I wonder if this is the Francis Effect that our friend Tommy counted on?

The current pontificate has coincided with a worldwide decline in major seminary enrollments. After many years of small but steady annual increases in the number of major seminarians during the reigns of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, the numbers slightly dipped in 2012 then went down more steeply in 2013 and 2014. To be more precise: at the end of 2011 there were 120,616 major seminarians. This went down to 120,051 by end of 2012, 118,251 by end of 2013, and 116,319 by end of 2014 (the latest for which statistics are available). If the experience of the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires is any indication, and if Francis manages to impose something of his vision on the actual process of priestly formation all over the world, we are convinced that we will see a collapse in vocations far greater than that which has already transpired in the first years of his pontificate.

Down nearly 4,000!

Great work Tom.

Stupendous work George.

Can't have too many rigid seminarians now, can we?

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2016/11/for-record-in-latest-interview-pope.html#more

Pope Bergoglio : It's okay to be "rigid" to save the planet, but not to save souls

With all the talk from the Bishop of Rome about the evils of rigidity, it comes as quite notable that he thinks differently when ti comes to "saving the planet." Pope Francis calls on scientists to create a "regulatory system," with "inviolable limits." We all need an "ecological conversion."

Heaven forbid we have a regulatory system with inviolable limits on sin and sacrilege.

Not a word about conversion to Our Lord Jesus Christ.

What irony and hypocrisy.

VATICAN CITY Humanity does not own God's gift of creation and has no right to pillage it, Pope Francis said.

"We are not custodians of a museum and its masterpieces that we have to dust off every morning, but rather collaborators in the conservation and development of the existence and biodiversity of the planet and human life," he said Nov. 28.

The pope addressed experts attending a plenary session of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences Nov. 25-29 to discuss the impact of scientific knowledge and technology on people and the planet.

People in the modern world have grown up "thinking we are the owners and masters of nature, authorized to plunder it without any consideration for its secret potential and evolutionary laws, as if it were an inert substance at our disposal, causing, among other things, a very serious loss of biodiversity," he said.

An "ecological conversion" is needed in which people recognize their responsibility for caring for creation and its resources, for trying to bring about social justice and for overcoming "an unfair system that produces misery, inequality and exclusion," the pope said. In fact, with sustainable development, the tasks of taking care of both people and the planet are inseparable, he said.

He lamented how easily well-founded scientific counsel is "disregarded" and how politics tends to obey technology and finance instead.

The proof of that, he said, is the way countries are still "distracted" or delayed in applying international agreements on the environment as well as the "continuous wars of dominance masquerading as noble declarations that cause increasingly serious harm to the environment and the moral and cultural wealth of peoples."

Pope Francis told the scientists that it was up to them to "build a cultural model to tackle the crisis of climate change and its social consequences so that enormous productive capacities are not reserved only to the few."

To do that, he said, the scientists would have to be free of political, economic and ideological interests, too.

Because scientists have been able to study and demonstrate many crises facing the planet, the pope called on them to be leaders in proposing solutions to the many problems, such as water, energy and food security.

He said it would be "indispensable" for the world's scientists to collaborate and create "a regulatory system that includes inviolable limits and guarantees the protection of ecosystems before new forms of power derived from the technological-economic paradigm produce irreversible damage not just to the environment but also to coexistence, democracy, justice and freedom."

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/eco-catholic/pope-asks-scientists-find-solutions-declare-rules-save-planet

Like the poor, climate change will always be with us

Fox and Vox have decided to pray the Divine Office this Advent according to the 1570 Tridentine office. This is before the reforms of Pius X and Pius XII/John XXIII and clearly far superior (and longer) than the Liturgy of the Hours with its missing psalms.

Imagine our surprise then, when reading Matins, we came across this, in Reading IX.

V. Grant, Lord, a blessing.
Benediction. May He that is the Angels' King to that high realm His people bring. Amen.

Reading IX
In these our days we see nation rise against nation, and their distress over all the earth, more than we read in books hath ever come to pass of old time. Ye know also how often we hear of earthquakes overwhelming countless cities in other parts of the world. As for pestilences, we suffer from them ourselves, with hardly any intermission. As yet we do not see signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; but the changes of seasons and climates warn us that we may look for these also before long.

V. But thou, O Lord, have mercy upon us.
R. Thanks be to God.

Do you still believe the corruption of the globalists who want you to believe, that, which has always been with us?

Drop down Heaven and pour down righteousness

From St. Bernard of Clairvaux:

We know that there are three comings of the Lord. The third lies between the other two. It is invisible, while the other two are visible.

In the first coming he was seen on earth, dwelling among men; he himself testifies that they saw him and hated him. In the final coming all flesh will see the salvation of our God, and they will look on him whom they pierced. The intermediate coming is a hidden one; in it only the elect see the Lord within their own selves, and they are saved. In his first coming our Lord came in our flesh and in our weakness; in this middle coming he comes in spirit and in power; in the final coming he will be seen in glory and majesty.

In case someone should think that what we say about this middle coming is sheer invention, listen to what our Lord himself ways: If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him. There is another passage of Scripture which reads: He who fears God will do good, but something further has been said about the one who loves, that is, that he will keep God’s word. Where is God’s word to be kept? Obviously in the heart, as the prophet says: I have hidden your words in my heart, so that I may not sin against you.

Keep God’s word in this way. Let it enter into your very being, let it take possession of your desires and your whole way of life. Feed on goodness, and your soul will delight in its richness. Remember to eat your bread, or your heart will wither away. Fill your soul with richness and strength.

Because this coming lies between the other two, it is like a road on which we travel from the first coming to the last. In the first, Christ was our redemption; in the last, he will appear as our life; in this middle coming, he is our rest and consolation.

If you keep the word of God in this way, it will also keep you. The Son with the Father will come to you. The great Prophet who will build the new Jerusalem will come, the one who makes all things new. This coming will fulfill what is written: As we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, we shall also bear the likeness of the heavenly man. Just as Adam’s sin spread through all mankind and took hold of all, so Christ, who created and redeemed all, will glorify all, once he takes possession of all.

This famous excerpt on the three (3) comings of the Lord Jesus Christ is taken from a sermon by St. Bernard of Clairvaux (Sermo 5, In Adventu Domini, 1-3: Opera Omnia, Edit. Cisterc. 4 {1966}, 188-190.

  Drop down dew, ye Heavens, from above,

and let the clouds rain down the Just One.

1. Be not angry, O Lord,

And remember no longer our iniquity.

Behold the city of Thy sanctuary is become a desert. Sion is made a desert.

Jerusalem is desolate,

The house of our holiness and of Thy glory,

Where our fathers praised Thee.

Drop down dew, ye Heavens, from above,

and let the clouds rain down the Just One.

2. See, O Lord, the affliction of Thy people,

And send Him whom Thou hast promised to send.

Send forth the Lamb, the ruler of the earth,

From the rock of the desert

To the mount of the daughter of Sion.

That He Himself may take off the yoke of our captivity.

Drop down dew, ye Heavens, from above,

and let the clouds rain down the Just One.

3. Be comforted, be comforted, my people.

Thy salvation shall speedily come.

Why wilt thou waste away in sadness?

Why hath sorrow seized thee?

I will save thee. Fear not.

For I am the Lord thy God,

The Holy One of Israel, thy Redeemer.

Drop down dew, ye Heavens, from above,

and let the clouds rain down the Just One.

How does the Church correct the errors of a Pope?

Considering the seriousness of the questions put to him by the cardinals, Pope Francis’ decision not to respond is incomprehensible. The cardinals have cautioned the Holy Father that consequences will follow his refusal of their dubia. Cardinal Burke explained in his interview with Edward Pentin that the Pope's lack of response may trigger a formal act of correction. Pentin asked, “What happens if the Holy Father does not respond to your act of justice and charity and fails to give the clarification of the Church’s teaching that you hope to achieve?"  To which Cardinal Burke replied,

“Then we would have to address that situation. There is, in the Tradition of the Church, the practice of correction of the Roman Pontiff. It is something that is clearly quite rare. But if there is no response to these questions, then I would say that it would be a question of taking a formal act of correction of a serious error…”.

Pentin asked a follow up question, “If the Pope were to teach grave error or heresy, which lawful authority can declare this and what would be the consequences?” Cardinal Burke replied,

Read the rest at:
https://www.ewtn.co.uk/news/catholic-commentary/how-does-the-church-correct-the-serious-error-of-a-pope

Pope Bergoglio corrected - Two forms of one Roman Rite does not equate with "exception!"

Pope's are not correct every time they spew happy water from their mouth or pass frankincense. They are not infallible on everything they say. This papolatry has done enormous damage to the Church,

I was personally insulted when the Bishop of Rome made negative references towards the traditional Latin Mass and those who attend it. I find him depressing to the point of nausea. His insults and arrogance is unbefitting of the Vicar of Christ and Bishop of Rome. 

What kind of Pope insults Catholics as this man?

St. Pio of Pietrelcina being "rigid' and "hiding something"

Now, none other than the great liturgist, Nicola Bux, throws a polite challenge:

FQ: Don Nicola, is the traditional Roman rite an exception?

Nicola Bux: That's  not what  the Motu Proprio by Pope Benedict XVI says. Rather, one reads explicitly that the two rites have the same dignity. This is what the Pope writes, not me. Therefore, we can not say with the document at hand, that it is an exception, unless one wants to come to a conclusion which is directed against the pope's document.

Read the rest at:
http://eponymousflower.blogspot.ca/2016/11/don-nicola-bux-contradicts-pope-francis.html

Pope Bergoglio praises dissenting theologian who "challenged Catholic morality."

When he died in 1998, the anti-Catholic New York Times headlined that 85 year old Bernard Haring "challenged Catholic morality." He was a Redemptorist priest and was praised by the likes of Charles Curran and Richard McBrien, priests of post-Vatican II American Catholic destructionism.

In 2016, the Pope of Rome has praised the same man before his Jesuit brethren:

“I think Bernard Häring was the first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again,”

In his continued theological disorientation, Jorge Bergoglio's theme "black and white" is again apparent in his address to the Jesuit General Congregation. 

In the same talk, Bergoglio condemned the new "morality" amongst seminarians. It is unclear from his incoherent, rambling exactly what "morality" he was questioning. The man is the most anti-theological, anti-intellectual, anti-philosophical Pope in history.

The Pope's words are in direct conflict of Our Lord Jesus Christ. Bergoglio is in grave error when he teaches that all must be "discerned," and that there is no "black and white." Our Lord made it quite clear that he came "not to destroy the Law but to fulfill it," and that if we "love him," we will keep his commandments. Thus, he expected us to see sin in "black and white," Bergoglio thinks differently.

Since I have the choice, I will follow the Lord Jesus. 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/francis-praises-prominent-humanae-vitae-dissenter-for-his-radical-new-moral

Francis praises major Humanae Vitae dissenter in rebuke of ‘white or black’ morality

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ROME, November 24, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis has praised the 1960s German moral theologian Bernard Häring, one of the most prominent dissenters from Pope Paul VI’s 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae, for his new morality which the pope said helped “moral theology to flourish.”  

"I think Bernard Häring was the first to start looking for a new way to help moral theology to flourish again," he said in comments, published today by La Civiltà Cattolica, that were given during a dialogue with the Jesuit order which was gathered for its 36th general Congregation on October 24, 2016 in Rome. 

Is Bergoglio's man in Mexico a supporter of buggery? Faithful Mexicans, protect your children from Franco Coppola!

The Mexican people are protesting the globalist homosexualist agenda being forced upon them. The Papal Nuncio speaks of "dialogue" rather than confrontation.

Only an effeminate malefactor or open sodomite would suggest "dialogue" to people fighting for their children and the soul of their nation-state. 

One can only conclude that Archbishop Franco Coppola is one.

What did this pathetic excuse for an apostle of Christ do in his last few posts in Africa?

Let these filthy scum "dialogue" and "encounter" themselves straight into Hell.

As for the good Mexican people, let this malefactor know what you think of his advice.

 https://twitter.com/hashtag/FrancoCoppola?src=hash

Bishop Athanasius Schneider on the matter of the four Cardinals' Dubia to Pope Francis

“We cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth” (2 Cor. 13: 8)

A Prophetic Voice of Four Cardinals of the Holy Roman Catholic Church

Out of “deep pastoral concern,” four Cardinals of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, His Eminence Joachim Meisner, Archbishop emeritus of Cologne (Germany), His Eminence Carlo Caffarra, Archbishop emeritus of  Bologna (Italy), His Eminence Raymond Leo Burke, Patron of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, and His Eminence Walter Brandmüller, President emeritus of the Pontifical Commission of Historical Sciences, have published on November 14, 2016, the text of five questions, called dubia (Latin for “doubts”), which previously on September 19, 2016, they sent to the Holy Father and to Cardinal Gerhard Müller, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, along with an accompanying letter. The Cardinals ask Pope Francis to clear up “grave disorientation and great confusion” concerning the interpretation and practical application, particularly of chapter VIII, of the Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia and its passages relating to admission of remarried divorcees to the sacraments and the Church’s moral teaching.

In their statement entitled “Seeking Clarity: A Plea to Untie the Knots in Amoris Laetitia,” the Cardinals say that to “many — bishops, priests, faithful — these paragraphs allude to or even explicitly teach a change in the discipline of the Church with respect to the divorced who are living in a new union.” Speaking so, the Cardinals have merely stated real facts in the life of the Church. These facts are demonstrated by pastoral orientations on behalf of several dioceses and by public statements of some bishops and cardinals, who affirm that in some cases divorced and remarried Catholics can be admitted to Holy Communion even though they continue to use the rights reserved by Divine law to validly married spouses.

In publishing a plea for clarity in a matter that touches the truth and the sanctity simultaneously of the three sacraments of Marriage, Penance, and the Eucharist, the Four Cardinals only did their basic duty as bishops and cardinals, which consists in actively contributing so that the revelation transmitted through the Apostles might be guarded sacredly and might be faithfully interpreted. It was especially the Second Vatican Council that reminded all the members of the college of bishops as legitimate successors of the Apostles of their obligation, according to which “by Christ’s institution and command they have to be solicitous for the whole Church, and that this solicitude, though it is not exercised by an act of jurisdiction, contributes greatly to the advantage of the universal Church. For it is the duty of all bishops to promote and to safeguard the unity of faith and the discipline common to the whole Church” (Lumen gentium, 23; cf. also Christus Dominus, 5-6).

In making a public appeal to the Pope, bishops and cardinals should be moved by genuine collegial affection for the Successor of Peter and the Vicar of Christ on earth, following the teaching of Vatican Council II (cf. Lumen gentium, 22);, in so doing they render “service to the primatial ministry” of the Pope (cf. Directory for the Pastoral Ministry of Bishops, 13).

The entire Church in our days has to reflect upon the fact that the Holy Spirit has not in vain inspired Saint Paul to write in the Letter to the Galatians about the incident of his public correction of Peter. One has to trust that Pope Francis will accept this public appeal of the Four Cardinals in the spirit of the Apostle Peter, when St Paul offered him a fraternal correction for the good of the whole Church. May the words of that great Doctor of the Church, St Thomas Aquinas, illuminate and comfort us all: “When there is a danger for the faith, subjects are required to reprove their prelates, even publicly. Since Paul, who was subject to Peter, out of the danger of scandal, publicly reproved him. And Augustine comments: “Peter himself gave an example to superiors by not disdaining to be corrected by his subjects when it occurred to them that he had departed from the right path” (Summa theol., II-II, 33, 4c).

Pope Francis often calls for an outspoken and fearless dialogue between all members of the Church in matters concerning the spiritual good of souls. In the Apostolic Exhortation Amoris laetitia, the Pope speaks of a need for “open discussion of a number of doctrinal, moral, spiritual, and pastoral questions. The thinking of pastors and theologians, if faithful to the Church, honest, realistic and creative, will help us to achieve greater clarity” (n. 2). Furthermore, relationships at all levels within the Church must be free from a climate of fear and intimidation, as Pope Francis has requested in his various pronouncements.

In light of these pronouncements of Pope Francis and the principle of dialogue and acceptance of legitimate plurality of opinions, which was fostered by the documents of the Second Vatican Council, the unusually violent and intolerant reactions on behalf of some bishops and cardinals against the calm and circumspect plea of the Four Cardinals cause great astonishment. Among such intolerant reactions one could read affirmations such as, for instance: the four Cardinals are witless, naive, schismatic, heretical, and even comparable to the Arian heretics.

Such apodictic merciless judgments reveal not only intolerance, refusal of dialogue, and irrational rage, but demonstrate also a surrender to the impossibility of speaking the truth, a surrender to relativism in doctrine and practice, in faith and life. The above-mentioned clerical reaction against the prophetic voice of the Four Cardinals parades ultimately powerlessness before the eyes of the truth. Such a violent reaction has only one aim: to silence the voice of the truth, which is disturbing and annoying the apparently peaceful nebulous ambiguity of these clerical critics.

The negative reactions to the public statement of the Four Cardinals resemble the general doctrinal confusion of the Arian crisis in the fourth century. It is helpful to all to quote in the situation of the doctrinal confusion in our days some affirmations of Saint Hilary of Poitiers, the “Athanasius of the West”.

“You [the bishops of Gaul] who still remain with me faithful in Christ did not give way when threatened with the onset of heresy, and now by meeting that onset you have broken all its violence. Yes, brethren, you have conquered, to the abundant joy of those who share your faith: and your unimpaired constancy gained the double glory of keeping a pure conscience and giving an authoritative example” (Hil. De Syn., 3).

“Your [the bishops of Gaul] invincible faith keeps the honourable distinction of conscious worth and, content with repudiating crafty, vague, or hesitating action, safely abides in Christ, preserving the profession of its liberty. For since we all suffered deep and grievous pain at the actions of the wicked against God, within our boundaries alone is communion in Christ to be found from the time that the Church began to be harried by disturbances such as the expatriation of bishops, the deposition of priests, the intimidation of the people, the threatening of the faith, and the determination of the meaning of Christ’s doctrine by human will and power. Your resolute faith does not pretend to be ignorant of these facts or profess that it can tolerate them, perceiving that by the act of hypocritical assent it would bring itself before the bar of conscience” (Hil. De Syn., 4).

“I have spoken what I myself believed, conscious that I owed it as my soldier’s service to the Church to send to you in accordance with the teaching of the Gospel by these letters the voice of the office which I hold in Christ. It is yours to discuss, to provide and to act, that the inviolable fidelity in which you stand you may still keep with conscientious hearts, and that you may continue to hold what you hold now” (Hil. De Syn., 92).

The following words of Saint Basil the Great, addressed to the Latin Bishops, can be in some aspects applied to the situation of those who in our days ask for doctrinal clarity, including our Four Cardinals: “The one charge which is now sure to secure severe punishment is the careful keeping of the traditions of the Fathers. We are not being attacked for the sake of riches, or glory, or any temporal advantages. We stand in the arena to fight for our common heritage, for the treasure of the sound faith, derived from our Fathers. Grieve with us, all you who love the brethren, at the shutting of the mouths of our men of true religion, and at the opening of the bold and blasphemous lips of all that utter unrighteousness against God. The pillars and foundation of the truth are scattered abroad. We, whose insignificance has allowed of our being overlooked, are deprived of our right of free speech” (Ep. 243, 2.4).

Today those bishops and cardinals, who ask for clarity and who try to fulfill their duty in guarding sacredly and faithfully interpreting the transmitted Divine Revelation concerning the Sacraments of Marriage and the Eucharist, are no longer exiled as it was with the Nicene bishops during the Arian crisis. Contrary to the time of the Arian crisis, today, as wrote Rudolf Graber, the bishop of Ratisbone, in 1973, exile of the bishops is replaced by hush-up strategies and by slander campaigns (cf. Athanasius und die Kirche unserer Zeit, Abensberg 1973, p. 23).

Another champion of the Catholic faith during the Arian crisis was Saint Gregory Nazianzen. He wrote the following striking characterization of the behavior of the majority of the shepherds of the Church in those times. This voice of the great Doctor of the Church should be a salutary warning for the bishops of all times: “Surely the pastors have done foolishly; for, excepting a very few, who either on account of their insignificance were passed over, or who by reason of their virtue resisted, and who were to be left as a seed and root for the springing up again and revival of Israel by the influences of the Spirit, all temporized, only differing from each other in this, that some succumbed earlier, and others later; some were foremost champions and leaders in the impiety, and others joined the second rank of the battle, being overcome by fear, or by interest, or by flattery, or, what was the most excusable, by their own ignorance” (Orat. 21, 24).

When Pope Liberius in 357 signed one of the so called formulas of Sirmium, in which he deliberately discarded the dogmatically defined expression “homo-ousios” and excommunicated Saint Athanasius in order to have peace and harmony with the Arian and Semi-Arian bishops of the East, faithful Catholics and some few bishops, especially Saint Hilary of Poitiers, were deeply shocked. Saint Hilary transmitted the letter that Pope Liberius wrote to the Oriental bishops, announcing the acceptance of the formula of Sirmium and the excommunication of Saint Athanasius. In his deep pain and dismay, Saint Hilary added to the letter in a kind of desperation the phrase: “Anathema tibi a me dictum, praevaricator Liberi” (I say to you anathema, prevaricator Liberius), cf. Denzinger-Schönmetzer, n. 141. Pope Liberius wanted to have peace and harmony at any price, even at the expense of the Divine truth. In his letter to the heterodox Latin bishops Ursace, Valence, and Germinius announcing to them the above-mentioned decisions, he wrote that he preferred peace and harmony to martyrdom (cf. cf. Denzinger-Schönmetzer, n. 142).

“In what a dramatic contrast stood the behavior of Pope Liberius to the following conviction of Saint Hilary of Poitiers: “We don’t make peace at the expense of the truth by making concessions in order to acquire the reputation of tolerance. We make peace by fighting legitimately according to the rules of the Holy Spirit. There is a danger to ally surreptitiously with unbelief under the beautiful name of peace.” (Hil. Ad Const., 2, 6, 2).

Blessed John Henry Newman commented on these unusual sad facts with the following wise and equilibrated affirmation: “While it is historically true, it is in no sense doctrinally false, that a Pope, as a private doctor, and much more Bishops, when not teaching formally, may err, as we find they did err in the fourth century. Pope Liberius might sign a Eusebian formula at Sirmium, and the mass of Bishops at Ariminum or elsewhere, and yet they might, in spite of this error, be infallible in their ex cathedra decisions” (The Arians of the Fourth Century, London, 1876, p. 465).

The Four Cardinals with their prophetic voice demanding doctrinal and pastoral clarity have a great merit before their own conscience, before history, and before the innumerable simple faithful Catholics of our days, who are driven to the ecclesiastical periphery, because of their fidelity to Christ’s teaching about the indissolubility of marriage. But above all, the Four Cardinals have a great merit in the eyes of Christ. Because of their courageous voice, their names will shine brightly at the Last Judgment. For they obeyed the voice of their conscience remembering the words of Saint Paul: “We cannot do anything against the truth, but only for the truth” (2 Cor 13: 8). Surely, at the Last Judgment the above-mentioned mostly clerical critics of the Four Cardinals will not have an easy answer for their violent attack on such a just, worthy, and meritorious act of these Four Members of the Sacred College of Cardinals.

The following words inspired by the Holy Spirit retain their prophetic value especially in view of the spreading doctrinal and practical confusion regarding the Sacrament of Marriage in our days: “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry” (2 Tim. 4: 3-5).

May all, who in our days still take seriously their baptismal vows and their priestly and episcopal promises, receive the strength and the grace of God so that they may reiterate together with Saint Hilary the words: “May I always be in exile, if only the truth begins to be preached again!” (De Syn., 78). This strength and grace we wish wholeheartedly to our Four Cardinals and as well as to those who criticize them.

November 23, 2016

+ Athanasius Schneider,                                                                                                            Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Saint Mary in Astana

Cupich says that if you question Pope Francis you need "conversion" and that includes the Cardinals - more sycophantic papolatry!

From LifeSiteNews:

Asked by Ed Pentin of the National Catholic Register why Pope Francis won’t reach out to the four Cardinals who wrote the now famous dubia, newly minted Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich stated that it’s “not for the Pope to respond to that,” adding that anyone who has “doubts and questions” about his teachings needs to “have conversion in their lives.”

Cardinal Cupich is a disgrace to his priesthood.

Cardinal Sycophants - Cupich and Farrell

Two of the newest Cardinals from the United States, Cupich and Farrell, have commented on the questions raised in the dubia by the four Cardinals.

LifeSiteNews has highlighted the points.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/new-american-cardinals-question-the-dubia-submitted-to-the-pope-by-four-cou

We already know that the Synods were manipulated by many behind the scenes and by Pope Bergoglio himself. We know it. The proof was there for all to see. The fact is, Amoris Laetitia contains error and heresy in both situational ethics and the opening of the sacraments to those in persistent and unrepentant mortal sin.

Jorge Bergoglio has sanctioned sacrilege and mortal sin and Cupich and Farrell are cheerleading it on.

Our Lady at Akita prophesied the very events we are seeing play out before us.

"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, and bishops against other bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their Confreres. The Church and altars will be vandalized. The Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord."

A Greek (Latin) Bishop accuses the Four Cardinals of "scandal" and "great sin."

 We have on one hand Lublin Auxiliary Bishop Józef Wróbel’s statement that it would be “just” for the Pope to answer the dubia of the Four Cardinals, and on the other, the head of the Greek Latin Church, Franciscan Fragiskos Papamanolis accusing the same Cardinals of creating “scandal” and being in “great sin.”

The retired bishop, though head of the Episcopal Conference in Greece, misses key points in his letter. He assumes that the Cardinals have accused Pope Francis of “heresy.” They have not. He clearly believes that no  person, even a Cardinal has the right or duty to hold accountable, any Pontiff, from teaching error, if that be the case. He continues that their “intellectual capacities” will prohibit them from seeing these realities. He even goes so far as to accuse them of sacrilege - that of offering Holy Mass in a state of sin because of their challenge of the Pope's sanction of actual Eucharistic sacrilege through adultery. Oh, the irony. Oh, the temerity.

The pushback to discredit the Four has begun. There are rumours that there were six, but two did not want their names made public, at least not at this time.  

This division in the Church has been created by Francis. He has acted against the will of the Synod. Neither Synod had a two-thirds majority to make the changes to Holy Communion for unrepentant adulterers that he has undertaken. While he has the legal right to chart his course contrary to the Synod, it flies in the face of “synodality” which he preaches and the Conciliar “collegiality” to which those who worship at the altar of Vatican II, demand.

Amoris Laetitia is very simple and so is the issue.

In this exhortation, the path is opened for people who are living in adultery, and who refuse to change the circumstance of their lives, to receive Holy Communion. The Pope himself has confirmed that this is the case by his approval of this position taken by the Bishops of Buenos Aires and the Vicar of Rome – something which could not have happened without his direct approval.

It is not the Four Cardinals who have caused scandal, it is Francis.

http://www.lastampa.it/2016/11/22/vaticaninsider/ita/commenti/un-vescovo-ai-quattro-cardinali-scandalizzate-il-popolo-cristiano-FlG6J65iwlgB8U4clP7LBP/pagina.html

Fragkiskos Papamanolis

Syros (Greece),

November 20, 2016

Dear brothers in the episcopate,

My faith in our God tells me that he cannot, but love you. With the sincerity that comes out of my heart I call you "dear brothers."

Even now in Greece is the document that you presented to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and which was published on Monday by the dell 'site Espresso, known.

Before publishing the document and, even more, before you drew it up, you presented it to the Holy Father Francis and for unsubscribed from the College of Cardinals appointments.

In addition, you should not have to make use of the title "cardinal" to give prestige to what you have written, using this for consistency with your conscience and to lighten the scandal you have given writing as individuals.

You write that you are "deeply concerned for the true good of souls" and indirectly accused the Holy Father Francis' to advance in the Church some form of policy. " Ask that "no one judge you unfairly." Unjustly you judge those who say the opposite of what you write explicitly. The words you use have their significance. The fact that you make strong use of the cardinal title does not change the sense of seriously offensive words for the bishop of Rome.

If you are "deeply concerned for the true good of souls" and moved "by the passionate concern for the good of the faithful", I, dear brothers, am, "deeply concerned for the true good of your souls," to double your great sin:

- The sin of heresy (and apostasy? So, in fact, begin the schisms in the Church). From your document appears clear that, in practice, do not believe the supreme teaching authority of the pope, reinforced by two synods of bishops from around the world. We see that the Holy Spirit inspires you alone and not the vicar of Christ and even the bishops gathered in Synod;

- And even more serious the sin of scandal, publicly gave to the Christian people in the world. In this regard, Jesus said: "Woe to that man by whom the scandal comes" (Mt 18,7). "It's better for him to have hung around his neck a millstone and be drowned in the depths of the sea" (Mt 18,6).

Driven by the love of Christ, I pray for you. I ask the Lord to enlighten you to accept with simplicity of heart the magisterial teaching of the holy father Francis.

I fear that your intellectual capacities will find sophisticated arguments to justify your actions, so you do not even consider it a sin to be submitted to the sacrament of penance and that you will continue to celebrate every day the Holy Mass and to receive the sacrament of the Eucharist profanely, while you make are offended if, in specific cases, a divorced remarried receives the Eucharist and you dare accuse of heresy, the Holy Father Francis.

Know that I have participated in the two Synods of Bishops on the family and I have listened to your interventions. I also heard the comments that one of you did, during the break, on a statement contained in my speech in the Synod Hall, when I said, " sin is not easy." This brother (one of the four of you), speaking with his interlocutors, changed my statements and put words in my mouth that I had not pronounced. In addition, it gave to my declarations interpretation that could not be connected in any way with what I said.

Dear brethren, the Lord enlighten you to recognize as soon as possible, your sin and to repair the scandal you have given.

With the love of Christ, I greet you fraternally.

+ Fragkiskos Papamanolis , OFM Cap

Retired bishop of Syros, Santorini and Crete,

President of the Episcopal Conference of Greece