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Saturday 22 June 2024

Viganò did not go to Rome!

From Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò to LifeSiteNews -- "'I, therefore, wish to make it clear that I did not go to the Vatican yesterday, and that I have no intention of going to the Holy Office on June 28, and that I have not delivered any statement or document in my defence to the Dicastery, whose authority I do not recognize,"


What if he is right?  


MaryP said...

He needs to take his case to the proper venue so as to start the process of examining the validity of the election. He is making it about him and about the NWO, instead ofabout the issue of the validity of Bergoglio papacy

P. O'Brien said...

I don't blame Archbishop Vigano for refusing at visit Rome. Jan Huss went to the Council of Constance at the request of the Church and returned as a pile of ashes. Luther learned from that, refused to go toe Rome, and hid out for eight months. Archbishop Lefebvre went to Rome in 1974 after being called and discovered he was in a kangaroo court.

Evangeline said...

I never heard that, P O'Brien. Isn't that something. There is no point going, apparently, it's all a done deal anyway. We're with him, these men have no authority.

Catholic Mission said...

JUNE 27, 2024
Vigano must ask Msgr.Kennedy at the DDF to respond

After reading the material posted yesterday on the blog Eucharist and Mission, Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano must inform Msgr. Kennedy at the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith (DDF), Vatican, that he interprets Vatican Council II rationally like Lionel Andrades. So he accepts Vatican Council II (rational) in harmony with Tradition and rejects the irrational interpretation of the Council and Catechism by Pope Francis and that of Cardinal Victor Manuel Fernandez, Prefect of the DDF.

When the popes from Paul VI to Francis confused invisible cases of LG 8, 14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church, among non Catholics, and an exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS),it was and still is an objective error. It is a factual mistake. It is a fact of life that we cannot see or meet non Catholics saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance. Such cases, if they exist can only be known to God and so are not practical exceptions for the Athanasius Creed 1

Archbishop Vigano must ask the Vatican Dicastery to respond to the message of this blog post, as soon as possible. The DDF must clarify that:-

1. LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, always refer to hypothetical cases only. So the Council nowhere contradicts Feeneyite EENS and the Athanasius Creed. There are no objective exceptions for EENS as held today by the St. Benedict Centers in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, USA.

2. Catholics are not obliged to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally to produce a fake break with EENS as defined by three Church Councils which did not mention any exceptions.

3. So the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (CDF/DDF) to the Archbishop of Boston (LOHO) made a mistake when it projected invisible cases of the baptism of desire as being visible exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. This objective mistake in the 1949 LOHO was not noticed by Pope Pius XII, Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI. So the Council (1965) was not interpreted rationally by Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, who was the pro-prefect of the CDF until 1968.

4. So Cardinal Fernandez, Archbishop Carlo Vigano and Msgr. Kennedy will be affirming traditional EENS with no exceptions when they interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. Ad Gentes 7 supports the dogma EENS when it says all need faith and baptism for salvation and LG 8 etc are not objective exceptions for Ad Gentes 7. The Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846 supports Ad Gentes 7 and the Athanasius Creed, while CCC 847-848 (invincible ignorance etc) are not practical exceptions for CCC 845,846. Vatican Council II is in harmony with the Syllabus of Errors ( an ecumenism of return to the Catholic Church) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q- other religions are not paths to salvation).While the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 29Q-invincible ignorance) does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 and the Catechism of the Catholic Church 845,846. Also when the Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257( The Necessity of Baptism) says God is not limited to the Sacraments, this is a reference to a hypothetical case.So it does not contradict the Council of Trent on outside the Church there is no salvation ( Council of Florence 1442 etc).

Today is the feast of Blessed Cyril of Alessandria who believed in the two natures of Jesus, Our Lady being the Mother of God and outside the Catholic Church, Jesus' Mystical Body, there is no salvation. Vatican Council II does not contradict him. – Lionel Andrades


Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone does keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.