We need to remember that the men behind this filth are evil. They hate Our Lord Jesus Christ, His Church and you and me. They care not an iota of these youths, they only seek to corrupt them.
Stay strong and stay focused.
Oh, and lay of the abuse of each other in the combox, I will not shut it down, I think Rorate and AKA Catholic have made a mistake; - those without blogs need a place to vent and we need a place to communicate. Whatever help my combox can be is a good thing.
I do not restrict those who adhere to sedevacantism because I understand them, even though I do not agree. These friends have more in common with me than the people at my territorial parish where my family paid for bricks and mortar. Or from its choir loft I was thrown out of by a sodomite priest, abused and denounced from the Ambo by its Polish Michaelite Pastor for using Greek and Latin on Good Friday. No, I have more in common with Tom A. and Dr. Lamb than those Novus Ordo Presbyters and the blue-pilled few who still attend. At the end of their lives, those Sedevacantists will have shown the Lord more love and faith then these others.
So, while I won't close the combox, I will delete comments that attack each other. Attack the argument, not the person, okay?
Now, back to the matter at hand....
Are Efforts Being Made to Smuggle Rejected Topics into Youth Synod?
The controversial issue of homosexuality may be subtly introduced into the final document by means of different language, and inclusion of the much-disparaged working document.
The Synod Fathers are currently examining and debating the final document of the Youth Synod, tabling amendments and propositions (modi) to the draft which will be voted on, paragraph by paragraph, on Saturday.
The general sense among the bishops, including those from Africa (whose voice some said had been “drowned out”) is that their views have been listened to and have found their way into the document.
http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/are-efforts-being-made-to-smuggle-in-rejected-topics-into-youth-synod
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Michael Voris has a twitter post this morning that indicates his sources in Rome are saying that the Pope himself is derailing the gay agenda in the final document of the "SIN ODD", but......I'll believe it when I see it. I think we will have to wait and see what the 'God of Surprises' has in store.
The "Pope" has advisors and they read current events and opinions.the term LGBT has apparently been nixed from the final document.
The deception must continue for awhile longer because Vatican documents cannot be singled out so as to appear contrary to the Magisterial
teachings of the Church. They are very aware of the backlash already from "Amoris Letitia".
So he carries a big stang and has to sound authentic not unlike JP2 kissing the Koran and the beat goes on......
Sorry , but actions speak louder than any words for those who "see" where we are headed.
This says it all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KnHzre6HvA
Vox
The gay agenda will get through. Francis, the snake, will get around it somehow. Perhaps a delay but he won't give up. His "Odium Fidei" is deep and there is no end to his "Animus Iniuriandi", that "desire to offend". Bergoglio is a spiteful sucker punching pitchman, who delights in offending. Much more destruction is coming. Of course such destruction will, in good conciliar fashion, be propagandized as change for the sake of renewal or updating, when rather, in good Modernist fashion, it will be change for the sake of destruction, a "mutatio gratia exitii". The conciliar church is a wasteland of this destruction.
Keep up these good posts.
TLM, I hope so. IMO, It's likely that Pope Francis wants a good deal more ambiguity than his gang wants since clarity, especially at this time, may cause all out rebellion against him. And given the nature of the abuse scandal, going too far might result in his own conviction that would surely cause a complete reversal of everything he has done after the next conclave (if it isn't rigged) and possibly Pope Francis being declared a heretic.
BTW, Taylor Marshall has an excellent series on the Youth Synod and Vigano that you might want to check out.
https://www.youtube.com/user/Taylor0Marshall/videos
Update: OK so from what I am reading now, the "LGBT" language is gone from the final document, but Edward Pentin has informed that the last 2 sections of the final document has to do with 'synodality', which he says was not discussed at all at the 'SIN ODD'. Tell you the truth, I think this will be just as destructive as the ushering in of normality of homosexual relations. For instance Germany will be as anti Catholic as they can possibly get and yet Poland will remain relatively faithful to true Church teaching. The U.S. and Canada? They will most likely go the way of Germany, so hang on for the ride of your life!! I'm 'anticipating' I know, but Ed Pentin is one of the most solid Catholic reporters that we have!
Oh and btw....then I read on Lifesite that Germany was going to try and wiggle in their golden ring of sodomy after all. PRAY!!
I wholeheartedly agree with you about the combox. I think it is a mistake to close them for the reasons you gave, the faithful need some way to communicate with each other. Personally I'm embarrassed when I read comments in the order of "You should close this combox because of X...". To me it's extremely juvenile to demand others only say what pleases you. When I was growing up, we heard this often. "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." This is what freedom looks like. Freedom is so easily abandoned.
I can't understand why other people's ideas bother some people so much. So what if you disagree, you'll live. I don't know if bloggists feel they need to shut down comboxes because supporters demand it? Regardless of why, we all lose something when it happens. Are we not mature enough to handle spirited debate? If someone is truly pornographic or most horribly obnoxious, ban them individually.
If LGBT language is not included in the synod document, it is only because Team Francis feel they have overplayed their hand and need to delay a bit. One thing he does not like is predictability, remember "Hagan lio!". He will not be controlled in any way, he's the top dog and must remain so, so if he feels it is expected that LGBT language will be in there, he won't do it. He'll wait until it's least expected, then, BAM, right in the face, probably on an important Vigil day, hey, maybe CHRISTMAS. Yes, that's the day to spring LGBT or female deacons on those pharisaical pickle pusses! Just like the Grinch, he would enjoy that on Christmas Day.
He's not mysterious anymore, he's easy as pie to figure out and predict. It doesn't matter if he does or he doesn't right now, that direction is 100% his trajectory. He is adamantly pro-LGBT, and why not, he runs a Professional Sodomites and Man/Boy Love Club.
He'll get there.
Speaking of "Saint" John Paul "the Great" (Fraud), he did exactly this concerning capital punishment for murder, with Ratzinger (as head of CDF) sowing confusion in the CCC. Read this and weep:
https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/3460-killing-capital-punishment-how-pope-john-paul-set-precedent-for-pope-francis
Kathleen1031,
The debate is good, I want that and yes, people need an outlet.
I want the personal attacks to stop, not the debate.
Vox
UPDATE: Lifesite posted an article yesterday that the Instrumentum Laboris will have LGBT in paragraph 157.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/smuggling-lgbt-into-the-youth-synod-doc
So it's full speed ahead with V2's agenda of "Renewal"...just curious if the virtues of purity and chastity were promoted in the SIN-NOD
BC
Why do some folks think the Bishop or Rome will oppose this or that evil when his reign has been so horrible?
Unless you see him perform an official act of reparation for his sins, unless you hear him recant his heresies, unless you see a clear sign of metanoia, don't fall for the rumors that the has changed
Debate particularly about VII and sedevacantism or papal diarchy theories etc. is all well and good. But let's have it in comboxes relevant to the topic they are under. Which is not EVERY combox. Otherwise we only end up getting derailed from what we should be discussing. Even more frustrating when it's the same old circle of arguments between the same people, which also includes me, just repeating ourselves without anything new being contributed. It only turns off readers or newcomers who might just decide never to get involved when the moment actually comes up for a topic, where they are ready to entertain the debate in light of actually relevant news relating to it.
Absolutely Vox, the personal attacks must stop. We should be able to discuss and debate issues without getting snarky with each other. I agree 1000%.
Kathleen.....yes, I think we are all on to 'The God of Surprises' by now. He may delay the gay thing until we are least expecting it to get the most emotional bang out of his buck. He's an emotional abuser.....this is exactly how they operate. They like to confuse and attack when they think you're not prepared in order to make you feel like you've been kicked in the stomach. He's a narcissistic abuser. FULL.....STOP.....
Personal attacks don't belong here, but a civil exchange of ideas does and I thank Vox for providing us with the opportunity...
When I bring up V2, or anything else that is not mentioned specifically in a post it's because I see the connection (such as a cause or effect) to said post and that connection makes it relevant to the subject matter at hand. There is nothing that exists which is unaffected or unconnected to or by other things, and in order to fully understand something it has to be put in context of "the big picture."
Also, I'm willing to read comments that may go off-topic because I may learn something new, and we're leaving a COMMENT, which is defined as:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comment
Definition of comment (Entry 1 of 2)
1 : COMMENTARY
2 : a note explaining, illustrating, or criticizing the meaning of a writing
3a : an observation or remark expressing an opinion or attitude
b : a judgment expressed indirectly
transitive verb: to make a comment on
intransitive verb: to explain or interpret something by comment
Thank You - BC
This synod document doesn't 'need LGBTQ' in it. We have lots and lots of practicing homosexual priests and clerics so I can't think they would be very concerned about using this term. They will continue to infect/abuse others without correction because of their superiors, bishops and let's not forget PF and his every changing agenda. You know, change for the hell of it. After watching a CM video with a US bishop, this bishop recommended that the laity stand up in church and tell the priest he is wrong when he preaches against authentic teachings. I say, go for it! That and cutting back on tithes will do the trick.
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