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Thursday 5 November 2015

You bad Christian you. You silly Pharisee! You are still a follower of Saul. For Bergoglio, Bishop of Rome St. Paul is still Saul!

The Bishop of Rome is setting us up. He is leading the recent secularist assault on those who dare to stand against his "reforms" whatever they may be; blurring the lines between doctrine and banking and curial governance so that all who oppose one, oppose all and are therefore, his enemy.

So be it.

He declared the war, not me. 

First, let us read St. Paul's first Letter to the Corinthians, 5: 9-13 NRSV-CE (thanks Linda):

“I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral persons not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since you would then need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber. Do not even eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging those outside? Is it not those who are inside that you are to judge? God will judge those outside. Drive out the wicked person from among you.”

Now, read what Jorge Bergoglio of Rome said this very morning; he quotes St. Paul but ignores the rest of him. Is St. Paul contradicting himself?

Or is the Bishop of Rome?



Vatican Radio -- The Christian includes, he does not close the door to anyone, even if this provokes resistance. He who excludes, because he believes himself to be better, generates conflicts and divisions, and does not consider the fact that “we shall all stand before the judgment seat of God.” That was the message of Pope Francis during Thursday morning’s Mass at Casa Santa Marta. 
The attitude of Christ is to include 
In the Letter to the Romans, Saint Paul exhorts us not to judge and not to despise our brothers, because, the Pope said, this leads to excluding them from “our little group,” to being selective, and this is not Christian.” Christ, in fact, “with His sacrifice on Calvary” unites and includes “all men in salvation.” In the Gospel, publicans and sinners draw near to Jesus – “that is, the excluded, all those that were outside,” – and “the Pharisees and the scribes complained.” 
To whom is the Bishop of Rome referring? Is he saying that those who uphold the doctrine of the Church on marriage and sodomy are part of a “little group” that wishes to “exclude?” The Pharisees of old laid hardships on the people and they themselves were hypocrites. We are all sinners, faithful Catholics want nobody “excluded.” We want all to come to Christ. Who are these Pharisees? Name them. Please tell us who they are! 
“The attitude of the Scribes and the Pharisees is the same, they exclude. [They say,] ‘We are the perfect, we follow the law. These people are sinners, they are publicans’; and the attitude of Jesus is to include. There are two paths in life: the path exclusion of persons from our community and the path of inclusion. The first can be little but is the root of all wars: all calamities, all wars, begin with an exclusion. One is excluded from the international community, but also from families, from friends – How many fights there are! – and the path that makes us see Jesus and teaches us Jesus is quite another, it is contrary to the other: to include.” 
Jesus included on His terms. “Go and sin no more.” We are sinners, I am a sinner, you are a sinner, the only human who was not was Our Blessed Mother. Who is “excluded from the international community?” Please, tell  us, be specific.  
There is resistance in the face of inclusion 
“It is not easy to include the people,” Pope Francis said, “because there is resistance, there is that selective attitude.” For this reason, Jesus tells two parables: the parable of the lost sheep, and the parable of the woman and the lost coin. Both the shepherd and the woman will do anything to find what they have lost, and when they find it, they are full of joy: 
Ah, “resistance.” Now we are getting somewhere. If we stand and say, “I will resist” to any attempt to undermine doctrine then you and I and everyone else will be labeled as "Pharisees," and "publicans" and "false Christians."  Please find for me in history a Pope who spoke like this, preached like this. Continuous name-calling without telling us who it is to whom he is referring. 
“They are full of joy because they have found what was lost and they go to their neighbours, their friends, because they are so happy: ‘I found, I included.’ This is the ‘including’ of God, against the exclusion of those who judge, who drive away people, persons: ‘No, no to this, no to that, no to that…’; and a little of circle of friends is created, which is their environment. It is a dialectic between exclusion and inclusion. God has included us all in salvation, all! This is the beginning. We with our weaknesses, with our sins, with our envy, jealousies, we all have this attitude of excluding which – as I said – can end in wars.” 
Now we have gone from the “god of surprises” to the “including god” whatever it might be. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The God who came to earth as the God-man is a God of love and a God of mercy but he is also a God of Justice and a God of Truth. Who are these people “who judge, who drive away people, persons?” Who are these terrible, terrible people who create a “little circle of friends” He goes on to say that “God has included us all in salvation, all.” So, there is no judgement? No consequence? There is no justice? There is no Hell? We are all saved? What is the point then of being Catholic? What is the point of striving to live a good Christian life and encourage others to do the same? 
If I exclude, I will one day stand before the tribunal of God 
Jesus, the Pope said, acts like His Father, Who sent Him to save us; “He seeks to include us,” “to be a family.” 
“We think a little bit, and at least – at least! – we do our little part, we never judge: ‘But this one has acted in this way…’ But God knows: it is his life, but I don’t exclude him from my heart, from my prayer, from my greeting, from my smile, and if the occasion arises I say a good word to him. Never excluding, we have no right! And how Paul finishes the Letter: ‘We shall all stand before the judgment seat of God . . .  then each of us shall give an account of himself to God.’ If I exclude I will one day stand before the judgment seat of God, I will have to give an account of myself to God. Let us ask the grace of being men and women who always include, always, always! in the measure of healthy prudence, but always. Not closing the doors to anyone, always with an open heart: ‘It pleases me, it displeases me,’ but the heart is open. May the Lord grant us this grace.” 
“We never judge” he says. We judge every day. We judge that a murderer or a rapist or a sodomite priest who commits buggery upon a boy is a criminal and a sinner. Of course we judge. We cannot judge their souls but we can certainly judge their actions. We have every right to exclude certain people from our lives and our families. We have no right to hate them or wish them to Hell. We have every right to decide based upon the judgement of certain peoples’ actions to exclude them from our lives. They may be an occasion of sin for us or our loved ones or they may be dangerous. We may decide not to attend their wedding or their faux "marriage" because it would lend credibility to a lie. We have a divine right to discriminate every day.

Francis contradicts Holy Scripture

Courtesy of a commenter, let us look at more scripture which the Bishop of Rome has set himself against. 

Matthew 18 -
15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every word may be confirmed by the evidence of two or three witnesses. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

Romans 16 -
17 I appeal to you, brethren, to take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them. 18 For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by fair and flattering words they deceive the hearts of the simple-minded.

I Corinthians 5 -
It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that is not found even among pagans; for a man is living with his father’s wife. 2 And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. 3 For though absent in body I am present in spirit, and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment 4 in the name of the Lord Jesus on the man who has done such a thing. When you are assembled, and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, 5 you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6 Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Let us, therefore, celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with immoral men; 10 not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But rather I wrote to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? 13 God judges those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.”

2 Corinthians 6 -
14 Do not be mismated with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and iniquity? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 15 What accord has Christ with Be′lial? Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? 16 What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said,
“I will live in them and move among them,
and I will be their God,
and they shall be my people.
17 Therefore come out from them,
and be separate from them, says the Lord,
and touch nothing unclean;
then I will welcome you,
18 and I will be a father to you,
and you shall be my sons and daughters,
says the Lord Almighty.”

Ephesians 5 -
6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for it is because of these things that the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not associate with them, 8 for once you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord.

Titus 3 -
10 As for a man who is factious, after admonishing him once or twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is perverted and sinful; he is self-condemned.

2 John -
6 And this is love, that we follow his commandments; this is the commandment, as you have heard from the beginning, that you follow love. 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves, that you may not lose what you have worked for, but may win a full reward. 9 Any one who goes ahead and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God; he who abides in the doctrine has both the Father and the Son. 10 If any one comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into the house or give him any greeting; 11 for he who greets him shares his wicked work.

Jude 1

5 Now I desire to remind you, though you are fully informed, that the Lord, who once for all saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness for the judgment of the great day. 7 Likewise, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which, in the same manner as they, indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
17 But you, beloved, must remember the predictions of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 for they said to you, “In the last time there will be scoffers, indulging their own ungodly lusts.” 19 It is these worldly people, devoid of the Spirit, who are causing divisions. 20 But you, beloved, build yourselves up on your most holy faith; pray in the Holy Spirit; 21 keep yourselves in the love of God; look forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ that leads to eternal life. 22 And have mercy on some who are wavering; 23 save others by snatching them out of the fire; and have mercy on still others with fear, hating even the tunic defiled by their bodies.[



15 comments:

Ana Milan said...

There is no doubt that this pope is a millstone around our necks sinking us to unknown depths of utter depravity. Can the more Traditional-minded Cardinals not find a way of quickly ridding ourselves of this unwanted and catastrophic burden?

Brian said...

Vox

This it the tactic of a coward, and it is usually done in front of adoring sycophants. For decades, I witnessed this at "Catholic" teacher professional development days, where the featured speaker was a hard core dissident. Bergoglio knows that no one, in that assembly, has the courage to challenge him and demand that he identify these pharisees.

Shortly after Bergoglio's election as Pope, Bishop Fellay, in an interview, referred to Francis, as a thorough going Modernist. Of course, Fellay hit the proverbial nail on the head. Later, when questioned, about Fellay's assessment, Cardinal Pell condescendingly dismissed Fellay's appraisal. Here, is a big part of the problem with those prelates, like Pell, who do want to maintain some semblance of doctrinal integrity, but remain quiet as church mice. Once again, this is the suffocating straitjacket of conciliar Catholicism. For fifty years, bishops have refused to address dissent and heresy, in there own particular Churches, how are any of them ever going to attack the heterodoxis and heteropraxis of reigning pope? A world wide episcopal knockout blow aimed strait at the chin of Bergoglio is thoroughly warranted. Will it happen? Ah no.

raphaelheals said...

I really like that last paragraph that you wrote. It has such meaning for all of us who have examined our consciences, as we should, but who must make decisions every day about things that you mention. I do fear that this homily is a dry run and a preamble for the Apostolic Exhortation that is coming.
The other thing that is so curious is that our Francis seems obsessed with this topic about the Pharisees. It is all we have heard for the past year. I have never seen such a lack of prudence. It is something I have never known in the church in my 66 years.

susan said...

GAAAAWWWWWW!....the man is absolutely infernal! And he uses St. Paul as the exemplar of this garbage????
Has the man ever, EVER read 1 Cor 5??????

God in Heaven, Father Almighty, please, PLEASE deliver us SOON from the wolves that are DECIMATING Your flock!

Barona said...

I find Pope Francis' homily on not being judgmental - VERY judgmental Ddi he not read his Office this morning? St. Cyril powerfully tells us NOT to follow the preachers of a false Gospel; let him be accursed! Let those who belong to the Adulterist and Homosexualist Parties be accursed!

Anonymous said...

It is funny that he says all of this stuff just after +Bishop Schneider makes his mind known with his letter regarding the "Synod of Adultery."

Even more interesting about it is the good Bishop's use of "Non Possumus" in the concluding exhortation to the Faithful who are awake.

It almost seems as Schneider's "we cannot" in resistance is rebutted by Bergolio by a "Silly Pharisee, have fun in Hell...Kisses"

We can see though, one puts forth evidence and wisdom and the other a stone instead of bread.

cenlacatholic said...

I applaud and appreciate that you and others have the tenacity to continue parsing Bergoglio's pontifications... I just can't bring myself to pay attention to him anymore. The man is bankrupt. All the weaseling, distorting, and distracting done by various apostolates has done nothing but confirm well-meaning Catholics in adherence to a doctrinally wayward pontiff. If it isn't any more clear for them at this point, it most likely never will be. God help them and us.

David Volk said...

Infernal. I found him diabolical in his speech before Congress. He talked of respecting life in all its stages. Applause errupted. He the spoke of capital punishment. Those who applauded expected to hear about abortion; they were not expecting capital punishment to follow. It was evil.

Dorota said...

Hoe does this inclusion of everyone fit into the juxtaposition of the narrow versus the wide gate, narrow versus the wide path? Hasn't "call me Francis" noticed, how adored by the mainstream he has become? Of course, he has.

Has he never read the words of our Lord Jesus? -

"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed."

- Of course, he has.

Is he senile? Of course, he is not. He is as sharp as a razor-blade.

We must be ready for more unimaginable things than the pope placing himself above our Lord Jesus. It is only going to get worse.

Dorota said...

I will add this:

Those who exclude, do not consider THEMSELVES better, we consider Jesus Christ better than all other deities, including humanity. To be precise, we consider Him not better, but the ONLY ONE. He showed us The Way and the Truth and the Life, and we follow.

Those, who like Francis, don't want to, who think they know better, should stop calling themselves Christians. We know that he announced the protest to be over, so he won't leave like the protestants did. He states that the Catholic (Universal) Church includes all people everywhere, even the enemies of Jesus Christ. This is contrary to what Jesus said. It explains, who Jorge Bergoglio is.

Codgitator said...

A little summary of biblical teaching I made to pass around to eviscerate and exorcise this utter claptrap (aka, "solemn nonsense"):

http://www.evernote.com/l/AkLyRgHL-yBKkol1SuSYWnDPDirCzsXi5Os/

Unknown said...

What an embarrassment this Pope has become. The above reads as a rambling politically correct discourse about "inclusiveness" which in fact is contrary to Sacred Scripture.

Anonymous said...

Just noticed - supposedly all wars, all calamities begin with an exclusion.

This is such a lie, who is actually buying it? Who is listening to this man and not seeing the deception? Many wars start at the top - we want this territory, this resource, we want more power - therefore we need to go to war. Of course, if we the rightful owners of the good in question included the aggressor, invited him/them, and gave him what he demands, there might be no war. Unless they need to reduce the population, to make more room for other species. Then they will socio-engineer a conflict anyway.

If the sheep always include the wolf, there will be no war - the wolf will help himself to the individual of his choice, and then next, and the next. In between his meals we can join hands with him, and dance and sing in unity.

If we give them our families, our children - without resistance, so that they can turn them against us - there will be no protests in the streets. Our rulers will have an easier task brainwashing our children against us. Simple.

This man speaks such evil... He comes now and spews this propaganda to the adoring crowds, because people no longer know history and literature. They respond emotionally to demagoguery. Has Francis never read "All Is Quiet in the Western Front"? Does he not know Orwell? - I am sure he does.

Oh God, please help us.

Anonymous said...

In recent times the Bishop of Rome has managed to exclude Jesus Christ from any public speeches he made in the USA or before the UN ,or when in the presence of rabbi's when he even resorts to tucking his Cross into his waistband , out of sight ,out of mind.he accuses people of "excluding others " while he excludes Christ ,the name of Jesus is only brought up Who so ever disowns Me before men ,i will disown before My Father in Heaven . Physician heal thyself.

Eirene said...

Dear Vox - What comes after bad? Worse! What comes after worse?
Maybe your commentators could oblige. For me, there are no more
words left to describe the presumptuous gall of this Pope. Let his lips be cleansed with the burning coal described by Isaiah before
he dares to even whisper the Name of the Lord and quote from His Holy Word ever again. Psalm 4 - How long, O you sons of men, will you
turn My Glory to Shame? How long will you love worthlessness and seek falsehood? And from Psalm 5: The boastful shall not stand in Your Sight. You hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood. (Read both Psalms for yourselves! These Holy Words have comforted my spirit!). May the power of the Holy Trinity encompass the Church and us all!