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Monday, 12 December 2016

Austen Ivereigh at Knights of Columbus funded CRUX - the latest Bergoglian minion!

There can be no truck nor trade with these journalistic poseurs who purport to be Catholic. They must be called out and that includes Austen Ivereigh at Crux

As Father Z points out, he is a "contributing editor" at Crux and states it so above this screed. One would presume then that this is an editorial position. This malefactor paid for out of my Knights of Columbus dues has now targeted faithful Catholics as the dissenters.


Ivereigh takes the same stance as Pope Bergoglio did the other day. That is, that the majority of bishops at the Synods voted to provide Holy Communion to those in adultery.


This is a not true whether it is stated by Ivereigh by the Bishop of Rome himself.


Ivereigh, and Bergoglio himself are following the Gospel according to Saul Alinsky



Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. 

He also blasphemes that the Holy Spirit can somehow change his mind and lie to us after two thousand years.

Since I hold the same faith and same beliefs and practices of the parents who passed it on to me, one must ask, "Who is the dissenter?"

A little more on Austen? A regular reader has written to me with this public information:

Archbishop Sheen was famous for asking those who professed their objections to organized religion, “And what is your sin?”
But he would not have needed to ask Austen Ivereigh - because Ivereigh admitted in a British Court that “he had made one girlfriend pregnant” – but he denied  having pressured her to have an abortion”.
Later he further admitted, “while working as head of public affairs for Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor, he  admitted making another girlfriend pregnant with twins. This woman was contemplating abortion and, after their relationship floundered, she suffered a miscarriage, the court was told.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-515997/Im-abortion-hypocrite-insists-Catholic-adviser-accused-girlfriends.html#ixzz4Sf3yBJjA
See too:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austen_Ivereigh

In fairness to Mr. Ivereigh -  from a reader:


The allegations were the subject of legal proceedings initiated by Ivereigh in the High Court of Justice against Associated Newspapers Ltd. (ANL). A trial in February 2008 was inconclusive, but at the retrial in January 2009 [1] the jury unanimously found that Ivereigh had been libeled. He was awarded £30,000 in damages [2] and all costs [3], estimated at £3m.




And now, our boy Austen has blocked me on Twitter.

Oh, how will I ever cope.

Related imageAs anti-Amoris critics cross into dissent, the Church must move on 
By rejecting the process of the synod and its fruits, the critics of Amoris Laetitia, led by four protesting cardinals, have crossed a line, and look increasingly like the dissenting lobbies under John Paul II who accused him of betraying Vatican II.
Meanwhile, the Church is moving on. The anti-Francis revolt spearheaded and legitimated by four mostly retired cardinals has acquired a newly vicious tone. A line has been crossed.
I don’t just mean the line of good manners and respect. That was crossed some time ago, when the four cardinals made public their letter challenging Francis’s apostolic exhortation Amoris Laetitia, and threatened him with a kind of public censure. Since then the tone of disrespect and contempt of some writers who back them has plumbed shocking new lows.
But far more important than tone, the critiques have crossed a frontier into a territory marked “dissent”.
Dissent, to be clear, is not the same as disagreement. Catholics often disagree with this or that decision or statement of a pope, object to his theology, or don’t share his priorities. And Pope Francis is not only relaxed about disagreement, but positively encourages it.Dissent is different. Dissent is to disagreement what disbelief is to doubt.
Dissent is, essentially, to question the legitimacy of a pope’s rule. It is to cast into doubt that the development of the Church under this Successor of St. Peter is a fruit of the action of the Holy Spirit.
Dissent is nothing new. At the time of the Second Vatican Council, the dissenting party set its face against its pastoral direction, as well as key developments in liturgy, religious freedom and ecumenism.
Under John Paul II, on the other hand, the dissenters were convinced he had betrayed the Council. They argued for women priests, an end to mandatory celibacy and an opening in areas such as contraception.
Now, under Francis, the dissenting party opposes the synod and its major fruit, Amoris Laetitia.Because dissenters almost always end up looking and sounding like each other, the four cardinals and their supporters look every day more like those lobbies under the papacies of John Paul II and Benedict XVI calling for liberal reforms.
Catholics know that going against the pope is a serious matter, and so when they dissent they adopt a regretful, pained tone that stresses conscience and the impossibility of betraying whatever they have absolutized - their idea of unchanging tradition, say, or their version of the Second Vatican Council.
What they have in common is that they are almost always lay, educated and from the wealthy world or the wealthy parts of the developing world. They are mostly intellectuals and lawyers and teachers and writers who put great store in their reason.
What to them seems entirely self-evident - arguments, logically developed from absolute first principles, backed by a few emeritus bishops, building to a case that cries out to be answered - almost always meets with silence from Rome. At this point there is a reaction of anger and stupefaction which over time coagulates into suppurating resentment.Some will break off, claiming the one true Church lies elsewhere or nowhere, but most resentfully stay, “clinging onto my faith by my fingertips” as they like to say, or “still a Catholic - despite the pope’s best efforts to drive me out.”
Clinging to the pain of their betrayal, they take refuge in their progressive or traditionalist liturgies and incandescent websites, firing off letters and petitions from lobbies and associations, vainly demanding, as “faithful Catholics” that the pope do this, that, or the other.
But even as they insist that there is a debate to be had, a case to answer, a matter to be settled, the train is leaving the station, and they are left on the platform, waving their arms.
The Second Vatican Council set the Church on a path of pastoral conversion. John Paul II united the Church around an understanding of the Council based on a hermeneutic of continuity. In both cases, there was strong resistance, but most Catholics recognized the development as legitimate, as Peter acting for the good of the Church, as a doctrinally faithful response to the signs of the times.
The same is true now. Most Catholics understand the synod, and Amoris Laetitia, as an inspired response to our times, a means both of rebuilding marriage and of helping to bandage those wounded by the failure of marriage.
This is why Francis can no more respond to the cardinals’ dubia than Benedict XVI could answer a petition to ordain women as deacons: because the Catholic Church has its own mechanisms of development, based on consultation and spiritual discernment.
Put another way, whether it is a conclave or a synod, the Catholic Church likes to lobby-proof its deliberations, precisely to allow the Holy Spirit space to breathe.
Francis cannot answer the cardinals directly  - although he has done indirectly countless times - without undermining that action of the Holy Spirit present in the most thorough process of ecclesial discernment since Vatican II. As he last week told the Belgian Christian weekly Tertio, everything in Amoris Laetitia - including the controversial Chapter 8 - received a two-thirds majority in a synod that was notoriously frank, open and drawn out.Roma locuta, causa finita, as Catholics used to say. And the case is even more closed this time, because it is the universal Church which has spoken, not just the pope.
To respond to the cardinals would be tantamount to rewinding the clock, to refuting the very process of the synod, in order to rehearse arguments that the synod settled, if not resolved.
Let’s remember what happened. At the start of the two-year synod process, there were two groups wanting to resolve the question of access to the Eucharist for the divorced and remarried one way or the other.
One group wanted to open up an Orthodox-type pathway back to the sacraments, the other wished to restate and reaffirm the teaching and discipline of Familiaris Consortio (John Paul II’s 1980 exhortation, which on that topic calls for discernment of different situations, but precludes any return to the sacraments unless the couple promises to live together as brother and sister.)
Faced with that yes/no question, of precisely the sort that the cardinals have put to Francis, the synod rejected a yes/no answer.  The synod affirmed the general principles of FC but developed John Paul’s teaching on the discernment of situations while refusing to impose the same blanket ban on readmission in all cases.
The synod decided, by a two-thirds majority, that they wanted both to preserve the doctrine of indissolubility in the current discipline of the Eucharist while at the same time creating sufficient pastoral latitude in the application of the Church’s law to allow pastors to respond to situations where there was a subjective lack of culpability.
Which situations?
AL doesn’t specify, which has allowed the four cardinals and their supporters to claim the document is ambiguous and confusing. But how could it spell it out, without becoming a manual of casuistry?
The whole point is that there is no new law, no new doctrine, no new norms, because the synod determined that there should not be. “There is no general norm that can cover all the particular cases,” as Cardinal Christoph Schönborn says, adding: “The general norm is very clear; and it is equally clear that it cannot cover all the cases exhaustively.”
And that’s the heart of the matter. The synod kept the law - how could it not? It’s the law of Jesus - but defended a latitude in its application, recognizing, as did Jesus, that the law is necessary but insufficient, and has to be applied in such a way that respects the particularity of each person’s story.
Amoris Laetitia took the synod’s settlement - forged, by all accounts, in the white heat of the German group - and asks the Church to create mechanisms of accompaniment that will allow for this discernment.
It says: Let’s hear this particular couple’s history and see where sin has created blockages and wounds, and where God’s grace is needed.And on the way, what will happen? It might mean ending a relationship and returning to a valid marriage; it might lead to an annulment; in some cases it might lead to re-integration into a parish, but not the sacraments; in some cases it might require living as brother and sister, and a return to the sacraments.
And in some, rare cases it might lead, yes, to being admitted to Communion where the lack of subjective culpability is beyond doubt, where, for example, an annulment is impossible, where the marriage is irrecoverable, where there are children by a new union, where a conversion has taken place in a person that creates a new state, and where the notion of ‘adultery’ simply fails to capture a reality. (Father Thomas Reese has suggested the kinds of distinctions Pope John Paul II had in mind in Familiaris Consortio.)
One bishop in South America whom I recently interviewed, when I asked about Chapter Eight of Amoris in an interview, kindly but firmly cut me short. “I can’t talk about that,” he said. “Every case is different.”
There speaks a pastor. There speaks the synod. There speaks the pope.
The one message I’ve had from other bishops and cardinals I have spoken to this year in preparation for a new book is that what AL calls for can only be grasped by a pastor.
Only one who understands the complexities of the workings of sin and grace in a person’s life grasps the paradox: that to insist on the universal, equal application of the law in all circumstances is to contradict God’s supreme law of mercy, which puts the individual before - not above, but before - the law.
The four cardinals, with their heavily loaded binary questions carefully crafted to exclude precisely that paradox, reject the synod’s settlement of this question, and in so doing they reject the validity of the Holy Spirit’s action.
They are trying to return to the logic of the liberal media and the hysterical pro-family groups who descended on the first synod to defend Christian teaching on marriage. Yet the synod rejected that logic in favor of an ancient tradition of pastoral theology.
To the four cardinals, three of whom wrote a book prior to the first synod insisting that nothing could change, this of course looks like capitulation. (Cardinal Burke, it is worth remembering, was removed as head of the Vatican’s highest court because he rejected any reform to the annulment process - a reform sanctioned by the synod - on the grounds that it would undermine marriage).
And they will continue to see it that way.
So, too, will the lay elite intellectuals and journalists who continue to scream that the entire edifice of Catholic teaching on indissolubility will unravel as a result, and construct elaborate arguments that AL cannot possibly say what it says.
It is not easy for young converts fleeing the Anglican doctrinal muddle in search of rock-like objectivity, and who saw the synod through that prism. Nor is it easy for the culture warriors, who are all too happy to look away from the pain of people’s shattered marriages to focus on the defense of the institution of marriage faced with divorce and the hook-up culture.
And it is not easily grasped by those Pope Francis calls the “doctors of the law” in whom fear of being swamped or contaminated by a world of relativism and sin is so great that it becomes the single driving focus of their attention.
They suspect that Amoris undermines the affirmation of objective truth in Veritatis Splendor (which it doesn’t, but it certainly shifts the focus away from the defense of truth to the defense of the way Grace works in a soul.)
Many are good people, clever people, faithful Catholics, who want to defend the Church and promote the Good and the True. Some I consider friends. And as their friend, I have to tell them that in their anxiety and fear they have been tempted down the road of dissent, rejecting a Spirit-filled process of ecclesial discernment. (They argue, naturally, that the synod was ‘manipulated’ or ‘steamrolled’, and therefore merely political. But these are not arguments, but stories dissenters need to tell each other.)
More importantly, as their friend, I have to warn them: the train has left the station, the Church is moving on. And they will end up like the betrayed progressives of the John Paul era, locked into a kind of resentment that made them poor heralds of the Gospel.
Just last week, the Congregation for the Clergy released a comprehensive new format for seminary formation. The priest of the future, formed by Amoris Laetitia, will learn to walk with people “with a disposition of serene openness and attentive accompaniment in all situations, even those that are most complex, showing the beauty and demands of Gospel truth without falling into legalistic or rigorist obsessions.”
Long after the cardinals’ dubia are no more than a footnote in the history of this papacy, long after Ross Douthat’s predicted schism from the columns of the New York Times has failed to materialize, the next generation of priests will be applying the magnificent teaching of Amoris Laetitia, and the noisy, angry strains of dissent will have faded into a distant memory.
Francis expected protest, especially from this quartet of red hats, and is saddened by it.  But he is not alarmed or shocked. He sees it, as Father Antonio Spadaro told Crux, as the outworking of a Spirit-filled process.
He knows that the dissenters have dug their trench, and many will stay firmly in it, glowering while the rest of the Church develops a new pastoral strategy for marriage and family. But Francis also knows that this is their choice, which is the choice of every dissenter.
And he knows that, in order to be faithful to the Holy Spirit’s action, his own choice can only be to ignore the cardinals and press on.

Don't follow the Vatican's "madmen and sycophants" into papolatry!

The great fraud perpetuated on the Catholic faithful with regard to the Pope, any Pope, is the absurd belief that everything they say is from God and is infallible. The First Vatican Council was very specific, infallibility is when a Pope declares on faith and morals and defines it as such.  This definition actually limits papal power.

Catholics, particularly since Vatican II and the papal "cults of personality," which we see currently, have adopted that which protestants have accused us of doing, elevating the Pope to godlike status resulting in papolatry.

Father Hunwicke has such a delightful manner of expression, particularly referring to the "madmen and sycophants" at the Vatican.


In the feverish Roman atmosphere of 1870, as the hypersuperueberpapalists at the Council ran around propagating extreme and barmy notions of the papal office, this little bit of nonsense did the rounds: "The three incarnations of the Son of God are: in the womb of our Lady; in the Eucharist; and in the Pope". We appear now in 2016 to have moved on from that, because instead we have Pintos and Farrells and other hypers telling us that whatever Bergoglio utters is the utterance of the Holy Spirit. What has stayed the same is that the hypers in each age appear to have the same disordered passion to see the Roman Pontiff as some sort of incarnation of one of the Persons of the Blessed and Undivided Trinity. Seems to me close to blasphemy and idolatry. Did I say 'close'?

Now, who might be amongst those "madmen and sycophants."

Saturday, 10 December 2016

THE MISUSE OF AMORIS LAETITIA TO SUPPORT ERRORS AGAINST THE CATHOLIC FAITH

Two preeminent Catholic Scholars send an Open Letter to the Bishop of Rome and all bishops in communion with him. The eight positions are highlighted below; the full letter at the link can also be found below. It is long. It is heavy. It is a must read and share.

If I can use a less than academic expression, it demolishes Amoris Laetitia and those behind it for issuing it. It is a condemnation of the heresy contained therein and a rallying cry to the faithful.

John Finnis
Emeritus Professor of Law and Legal Philosophy, University of Oxford
Fellow of the British Academy (Law and Philosophy sections)
Biolchini Family Professor of Law, University of Notre Dame, Indiana
Member of the International Theological Commission
of the Holy See 1986–91

Germain Grisez
Emeritus Professor of Christian Ethics, Mount St. Mary’s University
Professor of Philosophy, Georgetown University 1957–72 and
Campion College, University of Regina 1972–79
Most Rev. Harry J. Flynn Professor of Christian Ethics,


Mount St. Mary’s University 1979–2009

A letter to the Supreme Pontiff Francis, to all bishops in communion with him, and to the rest of the Christian faithful 
John Finnis and Germain Grisez 
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/12/an-open-letter-to-pope-francis
Your Holiness, Pope Francis;
Your Excellencies, all Bishops in communion with him; andall of our other Brothers and Sisters in the Lord Jesus Christ:We are convinced that certain statements in the ApostolicExhortation Amoris Laetitia, and certain omissions from it, have beenmisused and/or, unless prevented, will be misused to support positionsthat are or include errors against the Catholic faith. We shall identify eight such positions, explain how AL is used to support each of them,and show how each either is or includes error against the Catholic faith.Proponents of the erroneous positions may respond that their readings of AL are accurate, and that the Exhortation overrides and supersedes the sources we quote from or cite to show that the positions they defend are errors against the Catholic faith. But in making such a response, as in holding their positions, they would neglect what it is for bishops of the Catholic Church to teach. (continued at this link)
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http://www.twotlj.org/OW-MisuseAL.pdf

Position A: A priest administering the Sacrament of Reconciliation may sometimes absolve a penitent who lacks a purpose of amendment with respect to a sin in grave matter that either pertains to his or her ongoing form of life or is habitually repetitive.
Position B: Some of the faithful are too weak to keep God’s commandments; though resigned to committing ongoing and habitual sins in grave matter, they can live in grace.
Position C: No general moral rule is exceptionless. Even divine commandments forbidding specific kinds of actions are subject to exceptions in some situations.
Position D: While some of God’s commandments or precepts seem to require that one never choose an act of one of the kinds to which they refer, those commandments and precepts actually are rules that express ideals and identify goods that one should always serve and strive after as best one can, given one’s weaknesses and one’s complex, concrete situation, which may require one to choose an act at odds with the letter of the rule.
Position E: If one bears in mind one’s concrete situation and personal limitations, one’s conscience may at times discern that doing an act of a kind contrary even to divine commandment will be doing one’s best to respond to God, which is all that he asks, and then one ought to choose to do that act but also be ready to conform fully to the divine commandment if and when one can do so.
Position F: Choosing to bring about one’s own, another’s, or others’ sexual arousal and/or satisfaction is morally acceptable provided only that (1) no adult has bodily contact with a child; (2) no participant’s body is contacted without his or her free and clear consent to both the mode and the extent of contact; (3) nothing done knowingly brings about or unduly risks significant physical harm, disease transmission, or unwanted pregnancy; and (4) no moral norm governing behavior in general is violated.
Position G: A consummated, sacramental marriage is indissoluble in the sense that spouses ought always to foster marital love and ought never to choose to dissolve their marriage. But by causes beyond the spouses’ control and/or by grave faults of at least one of them, their human relationship as a married couple sometimes deteriorates until it ceases to exist. When a couple’s marriage relationship no longer exists, their marriage has dissolved, and at least one of the parties may rightly obtain a divorce and remarry.
Position H: A Catholic need not believe that many human beings will end in hell.

 
Permission is hereby given to everyone to publish electronically or
otherwise this entire booklet as a unit or the entire treatment of any one
or more of the eight positions dealt within it provided this copyright
notice is included in the publication; all other rights reserved.
Copyright © John Finnis and Germain Grisez
Notre Dame, Indiana — 21 November 2016


Vatican under a "reign of terror" and virtual "martial law!" Where is mercy? Where is dialogue? Where is "encounter?"

Edward Pentin is arguably the most credible professional journalist in the world today reporting on the Catholic Church.

What he is reporting cannot be easy for him. No more easy than for me to write what I do. How it is heartbreaking and pains me to see what is happening to the Church of Christ under this Bergoglio and the rotten, filthy, malefactors surrounding him. His culpability in all of this can no longer be denied. The affirmation of heresy and sacrilege in Buenos Aires and the Vicar of Rome's affirmation of the most liberal interpretation of Amoris Laetitia prove that Bergoglio is promulgating error, sacrilege and heresy.

People who follow Bergoglio in this will have set their face against Christ.

I shall not.


There are good men in the Vatican and the episcopacy and their chanceries. They must find the courage to rise up and defend the faith against these malefactors. The time has come.

Pentin discloses, from credible contacts in Rome, the "reign of terror" now existing.

Jorge Bergoglio has boxed himself into a corner. It is his doing and it will be his undoing.

"No," means he must withdraw Amoris Laetitia or amend it.

"Yes," means he declare himself a heretic.

He has set his face against Christ on the matter of adultery.

God forbid it that any of us follow him where he is going.



 


"The Pope’s reaction, of going so far as to question the cardinals’ mental state, has been read as a manifestation of his own anger at having his agenda taken off course. And instead of taking the four cardinals at their word (they have said they are acting primarily out of charity towards the Holy Father, justice and deep pastoral concern), they are seen as adversaries. I understand he has also been working behind the scenes to ensure his agenda is not thwarted.  ...
"Lastly, it’s important to point out that simply by matching facts with words coming from the Pope and his allies, it’s clear there is significant lying and deceit taking place, as well as calumnies and the besmirching of reputations of those labeled to be “on the right” just because they are publicly critical of Amoris Laetitia, or merely report on such criticism. ...


Read it all, at:

http://reginamag.com/rome-in-eye-of-storm/





Friday, 9 December 2016

Pope Bergoglio says that the "majority" of the Synod Bishops voted for Amoris Laetitia content. Sorry, the facts call him a liar!

Is Bergoglio this stupid? Or does he think we are?

He is entitled to his opinion, even if it is wrong. What he is not entitled to are to change the facts. We know that is is not true.We know the necessary majority did not vote for the changes he is demanding upon the Church. Yes, he may ignore a Synod and do what he wants. He has and that makes him, since he opines so often about "synodality," a hypocrite and a dictator!

Either he is sadly mistaken or deluded.


Or, the Pope is a liar!



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Say what?


Argue with these, courtesy of:

http://catholicvs.blogspot.ca/2016/12/nuevas-declaracines-del-papa-francisco.html?spref=tw:


  1. The final reports of the Synods, both the 2014 and the 2015, were voted paragraph by paragraph by the bishops.
  2. For approval, each paragraph needed to be positively voted by a qualified majority of two - thirds of Fathers with voting rights.
  3. In 2014 the Synod Fathers voting was 181 , so to say that the synod had officially approved a paragraph one needed a qualified majority of two - thirds, which in this case was obtained with 123 votes in favor. 
  4. Paragraph describing the two opposing positions during the Synod on the administration of the sacraments adulterers, only obtained 104 votes positive. Therefore, it was rejected by not having the qualified majority of two thirds of the votes . 
  5. Paragraph concerning the treatment towards people with homosexual tendencies was also rejected by the Synod Fathers, since neither obtained the qualified majority of two thirds of positive votes to be approved. 
  6. Despite having been rejected by the Synod Fathers, Pope Francisco ordered that those paragraphs was included in the final document.
  7. Father Federico Lombardi, then director of the Holy See Press Office, had to try to justify its inclusion , with little success, and only convinced those already in favour, making the following statement: "paragraphs that have not achieved so - called 'qualified majority' cannot be considered as rejected, but mostly paragraphs that are not mature enough for a broad consensus of the assembly.” 
  8. As no consensus was reached when the final report talked about expediting procedures for the declaration of nullity of marriages, Pope Francisco did not wait for the Synod Fathers return to reject the proposal and before the synod of the family of that year to meet , ordered by decree reforming the canonical process for the causes of declaration of nullity of marriage (it was September 8, 2015), which introduced the "presumption of invalidity" of marriage, absent for two thousand years of history the Church - marriage has always been considered "valid" while , unless otherwise demonstrated. It is recalled that Pope Francis made public his personal belief, unprovable, that a vast majority of marriages are invalid . 
  9. From 4 to 25 October 2015, it took place the XIV Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of bishops -a commonly referred to as "Synod 2015 Family" -, headed by the Pope appointed a majority of like - minded prelates their ideas, as the Cardinal Tagle (in office), the Cardinal Baldisseri (Secretary General), Bruno Forte (special Secretary) and the Committee drafting the final report, in addition to Baldisseri and Forte: the Cardinal Wuerl , Victor Manuel "Tucho" Fernández and Adolfo Nicolas (then Superior General of the Jesuits). 
  10. On Monday October 5, just one day after the start of the Synod, was issued a written and directed by 13 cardinals Pope Francis letter, which denounced irregularities that were taking place such as the choice of certain participants, the exclusion of others, or changes in procedures - which, according to them, made this gathering of bishops seemed to be "designed to facilitate default disputed issues important results." 
  11. At the Synod of 2015 the number of parents was increased voting, which became 279 (although some sources said that only voted 270), so that the qualified majority to consider approved a paragraph became 186 positive votes (180 if voters were the 270 mentioned above). 
  12. The number paragraph 85, which is the one that dealt with the administration of the sacraments adulterers, only obtained 178 votes in favor, not reaching the qualified majority of two thirds of affirmative votes necessary for approval (whether they were 270, as if were 279 Synod Fathers who voted).

Bergoglio's Coprophilia

Randy Engle reminds us at A.K.A Catholic, of an "open letter" that she sent to Pope Francis regarding his original comments on coprophilia and coprophagia. 


Coprophagia /kɒp.rə.ˈfeɪ.dʒi.ə/[1] or coprophagy /kəˈprɒfədʒiː/ is the consumption of feces. The word is derived from the Greek κόπρος copros, "feces" and φαγεῖν phagein, "to eat". Coprophagy refers to many kinds of feces-eating, including eating feces of other species (heterospecifics), of other individuals (allocoprophagy), or one's own (autocoprophagy) – those once deposited or taken directly from the anus.[2]
Coprophilia (from Greek κόπρος, kópros—excrement and φιλία, philía—liking, fondness), also called scatophilia or scat (Greek: σκατά, skatá-feces),[1] is the paraphilia involving sexual arousal and pleasure from feces.[2][3] In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association, it is classified under 302.89 – Paraphilia NOS (Not Otherwise Specified) and has no diagnostic criteria other than a general statement about paraphilias that says "the diagnosis is made if the behavior, sexual urges, or fantasies cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning".

The original comments can be found at numerous web pages at this link, lest one think that we are making this up.




A disgusting statement made the year before he was elected as Bishop of Rome, made again a few days ago.

Bergoglio is a bully with a sick mind. He must recant and publicly apologise to the Catholic faithful.

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Don Bergoglio



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Jorge Luther or Martin Bergoglio - two sides of the same heretical coin

Yes, this is a PhotoShop.

No, it has not been photo-shopped to appear as if it is on RadioVatikan's Facebook page, it actually is on their page and I have seen it myself. I'm not full of the stuff his coprophilia friends enjoy. This is really on their page.



https://www.facebook.com/RadioVatikanDeutsch/photos/a.1007429402602729.1073741830.1006999125979090/1345904208755245/?type=3

There are many photoshops insults of Popes out there, particularly Benedict XVI. They are an insult not only to the person but to the Office of Peter. Yet, here; we have someone who has either sent it to or works at Vatican Radio. The fact that they would actually post it reveals much.

They believe that Luther and Bergoglio are interchangeable.

Well, I guess the Vatican itself has declared that Bergoglio is a heretic. 

Ohl don't think for a moment they are mocking Bergoglio.

No, they think this is funny.

They are mocking faithful Catholics.

Thursday, 8 December 2016

Catholic Scholars and Pastors express full support for the four Cardinals and express "grave" concern!

I have, this morning, received an email from Dr. Joseph Shaw. Dr. Shaw as one of the original signatories to the letter of academics to Pope Francis on Amoris Laetitia.


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Statement of Support for the Four Cardinals’ Dubia


     As Catholic scholars and pastors of souls, we wish to express our profound gratitude and full support for the courageous initiative of four members of the College of Cardinals, Their Eminences Walter Brandmüller, Raymond Leo Burke, Carlo Caffarra and Joachim Meisner. As has been widely publicized, these cardinals have formally submitted five dubia to Pope Francis, asking him to clarify five fundamental points of Catholic doctrine and sacramental discipline, the treatment of which in Chapter 8 of the recent Apostolic Exhortation Amoris Laetitia (AL) appears to conflict with Scripture and/or Tradition and the teaching of previous papal documents – notably Pope St. John Paul II’s Encyclical Veritatis Splendor and his Apostolic Exhortation Familiaris Consortio. Pope Francis has so far declined to answer the four cardinals; but since they are in effect asking him whether the above weighty magisterial documents still require our full assent, we think that the Holy Father’s continued silence may open him to the charge of negligence in the exercise of the Petrine duty of confirming his brethren in the faith.

     Several prominent prelates have been sharply critical of the four cardinals’ submission, but without shedding any light on their pertinent and searching questions. We have read attempts to interpret the apostolic exhortation within a ‘hermeneutic of continuity’ by Christoph Cardinal Schӧnborn and Professor Rocco Buttiglione; but we find that they fail to demonstrate their central claim that the novel elements found in AL do not endanger divine law, but merely envisage legitimate changes in pastoral practice and ecclesiastical discipline.

     Indeed, a number of commentators, notably Professor Claudio Pierantoni in an extensive new historical-theological study, have argued that as a result of the widespread confusion and disunity following the promulgation of AL, the universal Church is now entering a gravely critical moment in her history that shows alarming similarities with the great Arian crisis of the fourth century. During that catastrophic conflict the great majority of bishops, including even the Successor of Peter, vacillated over the very divinity of Christ. Many did not fully lapse into heresy; however, disarmed by confusion or weakened by timidity, they sought convenient compromise formulae in the interests of “peace” and “unity”. Today we are witnessing a similar metastasizing crisis, this time over fundamental aspects of Christian living. Continued lip service is given to the indissolubility of marriage, the grave objective sinfulness of fornication, adultery and sodomy, the sanctity of the Holy Eucharist, and the terrible reality of mortal sin. But in practice, increasing numbers of highly placed prelates and theologians are undermining or effectively denying these dogmas – and indeed, the very existence of exceptionless negative prohibitions in the divine law governing sexual conduct – by virtue of their exaggerated or one-sided emphasis on “mercy”, “pastoral accompaniment”, and “mitigating circumstances”.

     With the reigning Pontiff now sounding a very uncertain trumpet in this battle against the ‘principalities and powers’ of the Enemy, the barque of Peter is drifting perilously like a ship without a rudder, and indeed, shows symptoms of incipient disintegration. In such a situation, we believe that all Successors of the Apostles have a grave and pressing duty to speak out clearly and strongly in confirmation of the moral teachings clearly expounded in the magisterial teachings of previous popes and the Council of Trent. Several bishops and another cardinal have already said they find the five dubia opportune and appropriate. We ardently hope, and fervently pray, that many more of them will now endorse publicly not only the four cardinals’ respectful request that Peter’s Successor confirm his brethren in these five points of the faith “delivered once and for all to the saints” (Jude 3), but also Cardinal Burke’s recommendation that if the Holy Father fails to do so, the cardinals then collectively approach him with some form of fraternal correction, in the spirit of Paul’s admonition to his fellow apostle Peter at Antioch (cf. Gal. 2:11).

     We entrust this grave problem to the care and heavenly intercession of Mary Immaculate, Mother of the Church and Vanquisher of all heresies.

December 8, 2016, Feast of the Immaculate Conception

(Signed):

Msgr. Ignacio Barreiro Carambula, STD, JD
Chaplain and Faculty Member of the Roman Forum

Rev. Claude Barthe,
France  

Dr. Robert Beddard, MA (Oxon et Cantab), D.Phil (Oxon)
Fellow emeritus and former Vice Provost of Oriel College Oxford.

Carlos A. Casanova Guerra
Doctor of Philosophy, Full Professor,
Universidad Santo Tomás, Santiago de Chile

Salvatore J. Ciresi MA
Notre Dame Graduate School of Christendom College
Director of the St. Jerome Biblical Guild   

Luke Gormally, PhL
Director Emeritus, The Linacre Centre for Healthcare Ethics (1981-2000)
Sometime Research Professor, Ave Maria School of Law, Ann Arbor, Michigan (2001-2007)
Ordinary Member, The Pontifical Academy for Life

Rev. Brian W. Harrison OS, MA, STD
Associate Professor of Theology (retired), Pontifical Catholic University of Puerto Rico; Scholar-in-Residence, Oblates of Wisdom Study Center, St. Louis, Missouri

Rev. John Hunwicke, MA (Oxon.)
Former Senior Research Fellow, Pusey House, Oxford; Priest of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham; Member, Roman Forum

Peter A. Kwasniewski PhD (Philosophy)
Professor, Wyoming Catholic College

Rev. Dr. Dr Stephen Morgan
Academies Conversion Project Leader & Oeconomus
Diocese of Portsmouth

Don Alfredo Morselli STL
Parish priest of the Archdiocese of Bologna

Rev. Richard A. Munkelt PhD (Philosophy)
Chaplain and Faculty Member, Roman Forum

Rev. John Osman MA, STL
Parish priest in the archdiocese of Birmingham,
former Catholic chaplain to the University of Cambridge

Dr Paolo Pasqualucci
Professor of Philosophy (retired),
University of Perugia

Dr Claudio Pierantoni
Professor of Medieval Philosophy in the Philosophy Faculty of the University of Chile
Former Professor of Church History and Patrology at the Faculty of Theology of the Pontificia Universidad Católica de Chile
Member of the International Association of Patristic Studies

Dr John C. Rao D.Phil (Oxon.)
Associate Professor of History, St. John's University (NYC)
Chairman, Roman Forum
  
Dr Nicholas Richardson. MA, DPhil (Oxon.)
Fellow emeritus and Sub-Warden of Merton College, Oxford
and former Warden of Greyfriars, Oxford.

Dr Joseph Shaw MA, DPhil (Oxon.) FRSA
Senior Research Fellow (Philosophy) at St Benet's Hall,
Oxford University

Dr Anna M. Silvas FAHA,
Adjunct research fellow, University of New England,
Armidale, NSW, Australia.

Michael G. Sirilla PhD
Director of Graduate Theology,
Franciscan University of Steubenville, Ohio

Professor Dr Thomas Stark
Phil.-Theol. Hochschule Benedikt XVI, Heiligenkreuz

Rev.  Glen Tattersall
Parish Priest, Parish of Bl. John Henry Newman, Archdiocese of Melbourne
Rector, St Aloysius' Church, Melbourne

Rev. Dr David Watt STL, PhD (Cantab.)
Priest of the Archdiocese of Perth
Chaplain, St Philomena’s chapel, Malaga



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Bergoglio insists suggestion on remarried has church backing - Yes, he is right, so did Our Lord's Crucifixion! Openly declares a "new" Church and admits to heretical statements and notions on Catholicism!

Even the Associated Press gets it - that Bergoglio is forcing upon the Church, the reception of Holy Communion to those divorced from valid Catholic marriages and remarried civilly without a Decree of Nullity, that is, that the original marriage, for consenting or legal reasons, simply did not take place and was not valid. What he is doing, and the Associated Press gets it, is to sanction adultery, sacrilege and mortal sin.

If you read this blog, you already know these things. What this Francis Bergoglio has done is in error, it bears repeating and communicating. Catholic bishops must cease their silence and cowardice, the faithful must wake out of their stuppour.

There is no mercy in this. This is error. This is evil. This is sacrilege and blasphemy. This is heresy and it comes from the very Pope himself. 

He continues in the interview to the Belgian press, quoted correctly by AP below; that, "it is interesting" how the fundamentals of Amoris Laetitia's support at the Synod is a "guarantee." A guarantee of what, he does not say, one would think that he believes, it guarantees some kind of twisted orthodoxy. He continues in this vein that it was "approved" at these Synods by more than "two-thirds" of those present, which seems to indicate his theory of there being a "guarantee."

He speaks of majorities, and votes and "two-thirds."

Let us remind this Bergoglio that the Church, as it was, and more even than a two-thirds majority of its High Priests (Bishops) condemned to the gibbet Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ and gave us, Barabbas!

We recall that two, only two, - Holy Nicodemus and Holy Joseph of Arimathea were, like our four Cardinals, alone in their opposition. Today, we remember and we revere these names, these two Old Testament Saints, whilst we hold the name Caiphas in disgrace - a man, a worm who has gone to his judgement.

Friends, what I am about to say will scandalise some but it must be said.

Jorge Bergoglio is a liar and a manipulator. His own words have condemned him.

I will follow him, as Pope, when he preaches the truth in conformity with Catholic doctrine. I will not follow Jorge Bergoglio into error and I will not be silent as he leads souls to Hell.

Thirteen Cardinals, including our own in Toronto, Thomas Collins, wrote to him about concerns on how the second Synod was being stage managed and that they were not being listened to. This follows those, such as Cardinal Pell, who, during the first Synod in 2014 declared that it was being "manipulated." Further, Bergoglio appointed to the Synods, which is his right as Pope, bishops and cardinals who would not normally have been there, - those which would support his views and those of the heresiarch Kasper. He stacked the deck. 

Further, two-thirds of those voting at the Synods most certainly did not vote for Holy Communion for the divorced in adultery because this is not in the final relatio of the Synod. A Pope can take all, part or none of a Synod, that is true, but he cannot change doctrine which is what he had done, by stealth, though now clear. He has now come out publicly and stated that which did not happen and it is at best, an unintentional mistake, and at worst a bold-faced lie.

Further, Bergoglio speaks in the interview, correctly quoted below. about "unity and diversity." In other words, the old cranky, backward and doctrinaire Church in Poland or Gabon can do whatever it wants and so can the Church in the enlightened Germany or Argentina. Well, this is not Catholic, which means universal. In fact, it is protestant congregationalism and it is heretical. It is Anglicanism in its worst form in governance combined with Lutheran heresy of faith.

On one hand, he speaks of "synodality" and "collegiality" and that Peter must not be a "dictator" and then, as the wily old Peronist he is, defies synodality and collegiality and dictates what he wants for the Church as if it is his church, and sends out his minions to discredit those opposed to his error and to tell us it is all from the Holy Spirit and we are defying the pope and God - one assumes, the "god of surprises."

Our God is not a "god of surprises." The Holy Spirit is not a liar. He does not change. He does not treat us and our ancestors over two-thousand years as fools for believing one thing that is only now revealed to have been wrong.

Bergoglio is a deceitful, manipulative liar. 

He has disgraced this season of Advent and he has blasphemed this holy day of the Immaculate Conception worse than he did last year permitting the blasphemous light show on this Holy Day upon the Temple of God.

This blog post is being sent to Thomas Cardinal Collins with the following:


Thomas Christopher Cardinal Collins, 
Your Eminence,
     During the Synod on the Family, you faithfully and bravely and wisely stood up along with thirteen of your brother Cardinals to make "Peter" as did Paul, of the truth. During your recent deanery meetings, you were asked by priests about Amoris Laetitia and its interpretation, to which you advised that your position and that of the Archdiocese of Toronto is that which was issued by the Bishops of Alberta and the Northwest Territories. That is, that people in adulterous situations be ministered to but that they must live according to the Ten Commandments and the teachings on marriage and the family as articulated fully by St. John Paul II in Familiaris Consortio with specific mention of living in "continence" as "brother and sister."
     Will you now join your four brother Cardinals and insist that Jorge Bergoglio, Bishop of Rome respond to the Dubia.
     Will you put your bishopric and scarlett on the line and stand up for the truth of Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church?

All Cardinals, all bishops of the Holy Catholic Church, you have a sacred duty. 

Jorge Bergoglio has openly stated to the Bishops of Buenos Aires in his Argentina, approved the statements of the Vicar of Rome which conformed to the Buenos Aires statement and now to secular media that he is changing church teaching and discipline. He has openly declared statements which are heretical and antithetical to Catholicism. Even the Associated Press gets it.


Will you stand up for the Faith and the sheep or will you go down into Hell with those who have set out to destroy the Faith?

Do you dare to leave the sheep amongst the wolves?

Are you nothing more than effeminate, emasculated, faithless, episcopal hirelings?




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Pope insists suggestion on remarried has church backing
Associated Press        
NICOLE WINFIELD
December 7, 2016
VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis says the majority of the world's bishops back his suggestion that civilly remarried Catholics can receive Communion, adding fuel to the debate that has riled some conservative Catholics.
In an interview Wednesday with the Belgian Catholic weekly Tertio, Francis said his 2016 document "The Joy of Love" — which contains the suggestion — was the fruit of two meetings of bishops over two years.
"It is interesting that all that (the document) contains, it was approved in the Synod by more than two thirds of the fathers. And this is a guarantee," he said.
Some conservatives have voiced increasing concern that Francis' opening on the divisive issue of Communion for divorced and civilly remarried Catholics is sowing confusion among the faithful about the church's teaching on the indissolubility of marriage. The debate has been stoked by the recent publication of a letter from four conservative cardinals asking Francis to clarify his position.
Francis hasn't directly responded to them, but he has sent signals, including Wednesday's comments. He was responding to a question about the decentralized, "synodal" church he favors, where the pope listens to his church, "lets her grow," harmonizes that growth and returns it to the local churches — such as in the form of a teaching document.
"It is unity in diversity," he said.
In September, Francis fully endorsed the interpretation of the question by Argentine bishops, who wrote a set of guidelines saying "The Joy of Love" clearly allows the possibility of access to the sacraments in exceptional cases. "There are no other interpretations," Francis wrote in approving the Argentine guidelines.
Church teaching holds that unless divorced Catholics receive an annulment, or a church decree that their first marriage was invalid, they are committing adultery in a new civil marriage and cannot receive Communion.
Conservatives had insisted the rules are fixed. Liberals had sought wiggle room to balance doctrine with mercy and look at each couple on a case-by-case basis.
Francis said pastors should help individual Catholics ascertain what God is asking of them, and linked such discussions of conscience with access to the sacraments.


Pope Bergoglio - you have lots of time to speak to media about coprophilia, yet you can't answer the Dubia of the four Cardinals?

Lots of time our Pope Bergoglio has on his hands. Lots of time to sit down and give an interview with secular media.

Not one minute to publicly answer the Dubia of the four Cardinals and the cries of the Catholic faithful.

Oh, look.

The Vatican itself has published the full interview with all the content about coprophagia and coprophilia.

It's as if they're proud of it.

Does this become part of his Magisterium, then?

Will the papolaters out there tell us that this bile emanating from his mouth is as infallible as incense coming from the same place as those over whom he obssesses for eating excrement?

Truly, what is wrong with this man. He is a vulgar, insulting and dictatorial man who was never fit to be the Vicar of Christ. 


http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2016/12/07/161207a.html

Interview with the Holy Father Francis for the Belgian Catholic weekly, “Tertio”, 07.12.2016

The following is the full text of the interview the Holy Father granted to the Belgian Catholic weekly publication “Tertio”, on the occasion of the conclusion of the extraordinary Jubilee of Mercy.
 [(Interviewer)
Representative of the bishops for means of communication …
(Pope Francis)
You once brought me some young people who asked good questions
(Interviewer) There is a Pope who gives good answers…
(Pope Francis)
I’ll wait a moment … I want to see the questions, because I haven’t seen them…]
QUESTION - In our country we are going through a moment in which national politics wishes to separate religion from public life: for example, in education. It is the opinion that, in a time of secularisation, religion should be reserved to private life. How can we be at the same time a missionary Church, outbound towards society, and live this tension created by this public opinion?
POPE - Well, I do not want to offend anyone, but this is an old-fashioned mindset. This is the legacy that the Enlightenment has left to us - is it not? - in which every religious phenomenon is a subculture. It is the difference between laicism and secularism. I have spoken about this with the French. … Vatican Council II tells us about the autonomy of things, of processes and institutions. There is a healthy secularism, for instance, the secularism of the State. In general, a secular State is a good thing; it is better than a confessional State, because confessional States finish badly. But secularism is one thing, and laicism is another. Laicism closes the doors to transcendence, to the dual transcendence: both transcendence towards others and, above all, transcendence towards God; or towards what is beyond us. And openness to transcendence is part of the human essence. It is part of man. I am not speaking about religion, I am speaking about openness to transcendence. Therefore, a culture or a political system that does not respect openness to the transcendence of the human person “prunes” or cuts down the human person. Or rather, it does not respect the human person. This is more or less what I think. Therefore, sending to the sacristy any act of transcendence is a form of “asepsis”, which has nothing to do with human nature, which cuts from human nature a good part of life, which is openness.
QUESTION - You are concerned about the interreligious relationship. In our times we live with terrorism and with war. At times it can be seen that the roots of the current wars reside in the difference between religions. What can be said about this?
POPE - Yes, I believe that this opinion exists. But no religion as such can foment war. Because in this case it would be proclaiming a god of destruction, a god of hatred. One cannot wage war in the name of God or in the name of a religious position. War cannot be waged in any religion. And for this reason terrorism and war are not related to religion. Religion is distorted to justify them, this is true. You are witnesses of this, you have experienced it in your homeland. But they are distortions of religion, that do not relate to the essence of the religious fact, which is instead love, unity, respect, dialogue, all these things. … But not in that aspect, or rather, we must be categorical about this, no religion proclaims war for the fact of religion. Religious distortions, yes. For example, all religions have fundamentalist groups.
All of them, we do too. And they destroy, starting from their fundamentalism. But these are small religious groups that have distorted and have “sickened” their religion, and as a result they fight, they wage war, or they cause division in communities, which is a form of war. But these are the fundamentalist groups we have in all religions. There is always a small group …
QUESTION – Another question on war. We are currently commemorating the centenary of the First World War. What would you say to the European continent about the post-war message, “No more war!”?
POPE - I have spoken to the European continent three times: twice in Strasbourg and once last year, or this year, I do not remember, when there was the Charlemagne Prize [6 May 2016]. I think that “No more war!” has not been taken seriously, because after the First there was the Second, and after the Second there is this third war we are experiencing now, piecemeal. We are at war. The world is conducting a third world war: Ukraine, Middle East, Africa, Yemen … It is very grave. Therefore, we say the words “No more war!”, but at the same time we manufacture weapons and sell them, and we sell them to those who are fighting, as arms producers sell them to this and that, to those who are at war with each other. It is true. There is an economic theory that I have not tried to confirm, but which I have read in several books: that in the history of humanity, when a State saw that its accounts were not in good shape, waged war to balance its budget. That is, it is one of the easiest ways to produce wealth. Certainly, the price is very high: blood.
“No more war!” was something that Europe said sincerely, I believe: Schumann, De Gasperi, Adenauer … they said it sincerely. But afterwards … Nowadays there is a lack of leaders; Europe is in need of leaders, leaders who go ahead. … Well, I do not want to repeat what I said in the three speeches.
QUESTION - Is there any chance that you will come to Belgium for this commemoration of the war?
POPE - It is not planned, no … I used to go to Belgium every year and a half when I was the provincial [superior], because there was an association of friends of the Catholic University of Córdoba. And so I used to go there to speak. They did the [spiritual] Exercises, and I used to go to thank them. I became fond of Belgium. For me the most beautiful city in Belgium is not yours, but rather Bruges [laughs].
[Interviewer: I have to tell you that my brother is a Jesuit.
Pope: Really? I didn’t know!
Interviewer: So, apart from being Jesuit, he’s a good person.
Pope: I was about to ask you if you were Catholic … (laughter)]
QUESTION – We are about to conclude the Year of Mercy. Can you tell us how you lived this Year, and what you expect when the Year comes to an end?
POPE – The Year of Mercy was not an idea that came to me unexpectedly. It takes its cue from Blessed Paul VI. Paul VI had already taken a number of steps to rediscover God’s mercy. St. John Paul II then placed great emphasis on this with three facts: the Encyclical Dives in Misericordia, the canonisation of St. Faustina, and the Feast of Divine Mercy on the Octave of Easter; he died on the eve of that feast day. He introduced the Church onto this road in this way. I felt that the Lord wanted this. It was … I don’t know how the idea formed in my heart. One fine day I said to Msgr. Fisichella, who had come about matters related to his Dicastery, “How I would like to hold a Jubilee, a Jubilee of Mercy”. And he said, “Why not?” And that is how the Year of Mercy began. It is the best assurance that it was not a human idea, but rather that it came from on high. I believe that it was inspired by the Lord. And evidently it went very well. In addition, the fact that the Jubilee was held not only in Rome, but all over the world, in all dioceses and within each diocese, created a lot of movement, a lot of movement … People were very active. There was a lot of activity and people felt called to reconcile themselves with God, to encounter the Lord again, to feel the caress of the Father.
QUESTION – The German theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer made the distinction between cheap grace and costly grace. So, what does cheap or costly mercy mean to you?
POPE – Cheap mercy or costly mercy: I do not know Bonhoeffer’s text, I don’t know when he explains this. .. But it is cheap because there is nothing to pay; one doesn’t have to buy indulgences, it is a pure gift. And it is costly because it is the most precious gift. There is a book based on an interview I gave, entitled “The name of God is Mercy”. It is precious because it is the name of God: God is merciful.
It reminds me of that priest I had in Buenos Aires, who continued to celebrate Mass and to work, and he was 92 years old! At the beginning of Mass he would always give certain warnings. He is very energetic, 92 years old, preaches very well, the people go to listen to him. “Please, switch off your mobile phones”. And during the Mass, the Offertory began, and a telephone began to ring. He stopped and said, “Please, switch off your mobile phones”. And the altar boy, who was next to him, said, “Father, it is yours”. And he took out his phone and answered: ‘Hello!’” [Laughter]
QUESTION – To us, it seems that you are indicating Vatican Council II for our times. You are showing us ways of renewal in the Church. The Synodal Church. … In the Synod you explained your vision of the Church of the future. Could you explain this for our readers?
POPE - The “Synodal Church”, let me take this word. The Church is born from the community, it is born from the foundation, it is born from Baptism, and it is organised around a bishop, who brings it together and gives it strength; the bishop who is the successor of the Apostles. This is the Church. But in all the world there are many bishops, many organised Churches, and there is Peter. Therefore either there is a pyramidal Church, in which what Peter says is done, or there is a synodal Church, in which Peter is Peter but he accompanies the Church, he lets her grow, he listens to her, he learns from this reality and goes about harmonising it, discerning what comes from the Church and restoring it to her. The richest experience of all this was that of the last two Synods. There all the bishops of the world were heard, during preparation; all the Churches of the world, the dioceses, worked. All this material was worked on during the first Synod, which gave its results to the Church, and then we returned a second time – the second Synod – to complete all this. And from there Amoris Laetitia emerged. It is interesting to see the rich variety of nuances, typical of the Church. It is unity in diversity. This is synodality.
Do not descend from high to low, but listen to the Churches, harmonise them, discern. And so there is a post-Synodal exhortation, which is Amoris Laetitia, which is the result of two Synods, in which all the Church worked, and which the Pope made his own. It is expressed in a harmonious way. It is interesting that all that it contains [Amoris Laetitia], in the Synod it was approved by more than two thirds of the fathers. And this is a guarantee. A synodal Church means that there is this movement from high to low, high to love. And the same in the dioceses. But there is a Latin phrase, that says that the Churches are always cum Petro et sub Petro. Peter is the guarantor of the unity of the Church. He is the guarantor.
This is the meaning. And it is necessary to progress in synodality, which is one of the things that the Orthodox have conserved. And also the Oriental Catholic Churches. It is a richness of theirs, and I recognise it in the Encyclical.
QUESTION - It seems to me that the Second Synod made the passage from the method of “seeing, judging and acting” towards “listening, understanding and accompanying”. It is very different. These are the things that I am constantly saying to people. The passage of the Synod is from seeing, judging and acting, and then to listening to the reality of the people, understanding well this reality and then accompanying people on their path…
POPE - Because each person said what he thought, without fear of feeling judged. And everyone had the attitude of listening, without condemning. And then we discussed, like brothers, in the groups. But it is one thing to debate like brothers and another to condemn a priori. There was great freedom of expression. And this is beautiful!
QUESTION - In Krakow, you gave valuable inspiration to the young. What could be a special message to the young people of our country?
POPE - Not to be afraid, not to be ashamed of faith; not to be ashamed to seek out new ways. And to the young who are not believers: do not worry, search for the meaning of life. To a young person, I would give two pieces of advice: seek out horizons and do not go into retirement at the age of 20. It is very sad to see a young pensioner at 20, 25 years of age, isn’t it? Seek out horizons, go ahead, continue to work in this human task.
QUESTION - A final question, Holy Father, regarding the media: a consideration regarding the means of communication…
POPE – The communications media have a very great responsibility. Nowadays they have in their hands the possibility and the capacity to form opinion: they can form a good or a bad opinion. The means of communication are the builders of a society. In and of themselves, they are made to build, to interchange, to fraternise, to make us think, to educate. In themselves they are positive. It is obvious that, given that we are all sinners, also the media can – we who use the media, I am using a means of communication here – become harmful. And the communications media have their temptations. They can be tempted by calumny, and therefore used to slander, to sully people, especially in the world of politics. They can be used as a means of defamation: every person has the right to a good reputation, but perhaps in their previous life, or ten years ago, they had a problem with justice, or a problem in their family life, and bringing this to light is serious and harmful; it can annul a person. In slander we tell a lie about a person; in defamation, we leak a document, as we say in Argentina, “Se hace un carpetazo” – and we uncover something that is true, but already in the past, and which has already been paid for with a jail sentence, with a fine, or whatever. There is no right to this. This is a sin and it is harmful. A thing that can do great damage to the information media is disinformation: that is, faced with any situation, saying only a part of the truth, and not the rest. This is disinformation. Because you, to the listener or the observer, give only half the truth, and therefore it is not possible to make a serious judgement. Disinformation is probably the greatest damage that the media can do, as opinion is guided in one direction, neglecting the other part of the truth. And then, I believe that the media should be very clear, very transparent, and not fall prey – without offence, please – to the sickness of coprophilia, which is always wanting to communicate scandal, to communicate ugly things, even though they may be true. And since people have a tendency towards the sickness of coprophagia, it can do great harm. Thus, I would say that there are these four temptations. But they are builders of opinion and can construct, and do immense good, immense.
QUESTION – To conclude, a word for priests. Not a speech, because they say we have to conclude. … What is most important for a priest?
POPE – It is a rather Salesian answer, but it comes from the heart. Remember that you have a Mother who loves you, and never cease to love your Mother, the Virgin. Secondly, let yourself be looked at by Jesus. Third: seek out the suffering flesh of Jesus in your brothers: there you will encounter Jesus. This as a basis. Everything comes from here. If you are an orphan priest, who has forgotten that he has a Mother; if you are a priest who has drifted away from He Who called you, from Jesus, you will never be able to carry the Gospel. What is the way? Tenderness. May they have tenderness. Priests should never be ashamed of having tenderness.
May they caress the suffering blood of Jesus. Today there is a need for a revolution of tenderness in this world that suffers from “cardiosclerosis”.
QUESTION - Cardio…?
POPE – Cardiosclerosis.