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Wednesday 7 August 2013

Who are the Pelagians?

You've clearly labelled the "rad-trads" Father Longenecker; (I won't link to it, lest I literally feed the bear) as have Mssrs. Staples, Coffin and Shea (talk about anger issues), Mr. Self-published theologian wannabee with all the blurbs and some questionable apologist and his "minions" to say nothing of the others assortment of poseurs who are doing the devil's work of name-calling and labeling your fellow Catholics; now, what do you call this abomination? 

P.S. If you've come here courtesy of the generous link from Mr. Shea, welcome and come back again.



"Firstly, I would like to be able to choose music when I log on to a website - not have it forced upon me.What exactly would you have the people mentioned in your rather confusing post do about liturgical abuses which took place in 2011 in the Czech Republic?" Victoria.

Well Victoria, the fact that it is in 2011 in Czech is hardly the issue. The issue is abuse. It seems that it has suddenly become de riguer for many Catholic commentators to use the words "rad-trad" and "mad-trad" and "radical traditionalist" as a slur against there fellow Catholics. This has come from little know people and well-known people as mentioned above, even priests. It is wrong. Period, it needs to stop. It is not from the Lord that these slaps and slanders are executed. In fact, it is straight out of Hell. There is nothing the Devil wants more than an end to the traditional liturgy, Latin, Gregorian chant and a permanent divide of the SSPX from Holy Mother Church. Why? Because it all starts with the Mass and its dignity and solemnity and prayer and the examples above are the antithesis of it; oh, and please enjoy the music. As for confusing, it is not I who is confused.  



Paddy said...

getting down with the young people?

Theodore M. Seeber said...

Children's mass after a visit to the waterpark with the youth group?

Richard Chonak said...

This was in 2011 in the Czech Republic:

Victoria said...

Firstly, I would like to be able to choose music when I log on to a website - not have it forced upon me.

What exactly would you have the people mentioned in your rather confusing post do about liturgical abuses which took place in 2011 in the Czech Republic?

Vox Cantoris said...

Victoria, you can turn the player off on the left or down on the upper right.

The title of the blog is, in case you don't get it, The Voice of the Singer.

Peace and my best to all the good people at Patheos.


Anonymous said...

Let the little children come unto me and do not hold them back?

Old news?

Seriously, digging out a picture from a 2011 story from the Czech Republic which I can't even tell is from a Latin Rite parish since it's in Polish and 1/2 of the links don't work to try to prove a point about the use of "rad-trad"? How is the picture even relevant to the discussion of certain Traditionalists of a strong Protestant bent?

Do abuses exist? Is the sky blue? Do humans still have the effects of Original Sin?

What do you think of Pope Francis?

Vox Cantoris said...

2011 or 2013 abuse is abuse.

Tell me, who are the Protestants?

What do I think of Pope Francis?

Is his picture not on my blog?

Am I not Catholic.

Give my best to Mark.

Anonymous said...

So what's the backstory of Mark Shae? I heard him on a radio show the other day

Vox Cantoris said...

Dear John,

I'm not going to suggest anything about Mr. Shea other than his treatment of me and others in his combox. His public rebuke of people is uncharitable and unbecoming of someone who has such a public profile and who has such influence amongst many Catholics. As well, his continuous commentary of Michael Voris and Father John Corapi is without justification and just plain unkind. His constant criticism of Catholics who prefer and fight for a return to tradition is and has been disgraceful. I include in this John Allen for his "Taliban Catholics" comment, Father Tom Rosica for the same as well as use of the word "extremists" to describe LifeSiteNews and other bloggers and those mentioned above. The name calling is inappropriate and not in keeping with Catholic values. It is one thing to criticise liturgical abuses or public statements it is quite another to revert to name-calling. Comboxes have become disgusting places to visit in most cases and I expect this from the secular media. To find that it in Catholic media and perpetuate by the owner, in this case Shea's blog, is a disgrace.

Unknown said...

Thanks - And I couldnt agree more after spending some time on Patheos - Its right up there with the National Schismatic Reporter.