tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post6939784642107930665..comments2024-03-27T11:26:55.051-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: And you think it's a mess now? Wait until Bergoglio calls Vatican III -- are we about to live Fatima?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-17009188397958731912017-02-01T09:51:15.106-05:002017-02-01T09:51:15.106-05:00Dear Max, We true Catholics suffer terribly the tr...Dear Max, We true Catholics suffer terribly the trauma of heresy, apostasy, evil by Pope, bishops, priests and religious. Since I was a child in the seventies, I was asking those questions that you ask, questions met with silence. It's the Great Apostasy. Lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06584293537366309430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-3316033774907615332017-01-31T13:19:34.935-05:002017-01-31T13:19:34.935-05:00“The problem with putting two and two together is ...“The problem with putting two and two together is that sometimes you get four, and sometimes you get twenty-two.”<br />― Dashiell Hammett, The Thin Man knldgskrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-87702496720014355772017-01-30T23:07:23.531-05:002017-01-30T23:07:23.531-05:00J.M.J.
You are most welcome, Vox!
Thank you for ...J.M.J.<br /><br />You are most welcome, Vox!<br /><br />Thank you for all you do on your blog!<br /><br />May God continue to bless your efforts!!Ademarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-11872475456296807112017-01-30T19:16:22.372-05:002017-01-30T19:16:22.372-05:00Thanks Ademar, I had forgotten about that prophecy...Thanks Ademar, I had forgotten about that prophecy.<br />Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-57787081863577199642017-01-30T18:36:09.502-05:002017-01-30T18:36:09.502-05:00While there are certainly "fleas" in the...While there are certainly "fleas" in the Vatican, the good bishops will have to FLEE to Portugal!M. Prodigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598092468839468735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-59480456434327463432017-01-30T18:20:12.673-05:002017-01-30T18:20:12.673-05:00J.M.J.
Your hypothetical Fatima time line would b...J.M.J.<br /><br />Your hypothetical Fatima time line would be pretty plausible if not for the pesky little prophecy of Pope St. Pius X, wherein he says that a successor of his by name will be fleeing Rome over the bodies of his subordinates, going to a hiding place, and after a short time, suffering a cruel death.<br /><br />Of all the recent popes, only Papa Benedict XVI fits the bill. He is alive. He is not a Pius XIII, but he is a Joseph -- Josef Ratzinger to Pope St. Pius' Giuseppe Sarto. <br /><br />I would say that your scenario of God's permissive will response to Francis' "Vatican III" will happen -- Moslems, or even an earthquake or volcanic eruption (Recall that St. Januarius' blood in Naples did NOT liquefy in mid-December, and the city is next door to a reawakening Campi Flegrei caldera.) -- but that Benedict will flee Rome to go into hiding, while Francis will be the one executed in Rome by the bullets and arrows of the "bishop in white" vision of the Third Secret of Fatima.<br /><br />With the good bishops that are still around having aided Papa Benedict into hiding, they will know of his death and proceed to elect a new Pope. Regardless of which pope is the true Pope, the earlier death of a converted (the Fatima vision implies this) Francis, and the subsequent death of Benedict will open the field for a successor of validity beyond doubt or confusion.<br /><br />Our Lady of Fatima, ora pro nobis!!<br /><br /><br /><br />Ademarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-335135433741927942017-01-30T10:32:07.388-05:002017-01-30T10:32:07.388-05:00Johnno, see this article:
https://www.catholiccult...Johnno, see this article:<br />https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/articles.cfm?id=541<br /><br />"The Magisterium cannot be set against itself without destroying the fundamental claims of Catholicism. What many or most Traditionalists claim—that the Magisterium since 1960 has contradicted the Magisterium of “eternal Rome” by teaching errors as distinct from “perennial doctrine” is a clear and total subversion of the authority principle which animates Catholicism, which makes it wholly unique, and which alone guarantees its veracity.<br /><br />This is so true that the bizarre sede vacantists among Traditionalists actually make more theological sense by arguing that the See of Peter has been vacant since Pius XII, which is at least theoretically possible."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-90648789104323368892017-01-30T09:44:22.224-05:002017-01-30T09:44:22.224-05:00Johnno,
That is a beautiful way of looking at the ...Johnno,<br />That is a beautiful way of looking at the situation, but unfortunately from what I understand it contradicts the Church's infallible teaching: that the visible hierarchy of the Catholic Church with the Pope as its head is infallible and can never defect or lead the faithful into error. That's what the Church has taught about herself for hundreds of years, and without the visible, infallible teaching authority of the hierarchy and the Pope, there is no Catholic Church of Rome. <br />What you describe sounds similar to the Orthodox view: that it is not the infallible Pope, hierarchy, or living Magisterium that are absolutely vital to the Church's existence, but Tradition. I myself am beginning to wonder if the Orthodox have been right all along. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-44326948369862375272017-01-30T08:27:18.150-05:002017-01-30T08:27:18.150-05:00Agree with Johnno. Fatima I Council sounds exactl...Agree with Johnno. Fatima I Council sounds exactly right. Hope it comes rather soon.Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-74383761990420302522017-01-30T05:14:28.522-05:002017-01-30T05:14:28.522-05:00What needs to be understood is the difference betw...What needs to be understood is the difference between 'Eternal Rome' and geographical Rome. Just as there is a distiction between Jerusalem on Earth, and the 'Heavenly Jerusalem.' Even when the Papacy moved to Avignon, France for a time, Eternal Rome was there and remains indefectible. Even as Jerusalem was sacjed, twice, the Heavenly Jerusalem was still coming. The City if God is not of this world and yet in the world overlapping the City if Men. Both the seeds and the tares are sown together. When prophecies speak if Jerusalem, or Rome falling, these are the City of Men. The City if God, the Heavenly Jerusalem, Eternal Rome, the New Israel versus geographical Israel, the 12 Apostles replacing the 12 Tribes, these are indefectible. The Kingdom if God is not if this world and yet it is already here residing among us. This will never be defeated. It is the Church Triumphant. For a time it may be attacked and grow minuscule, but it will never go away. Eyernal Rome, just as it once began in Jerusalem, then to France, may for a time move to Portugal.<br /><br />Here's looking forward to the Fatima I Council, whose authenticity will be marked by the Consecration of Russia by the true Popes and Bishops followed by the grandest miracle the world will ever see.Johnnonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-54024361693299733502017-01-30T02:55:15.894-05:002017-01-30T02:55:15.894-05:00Clever, but we can't do stuff just by what we ...Clever, but we can't do stuff just by what we will vall our conscience to spite Pope Francis. We will be judged by what we know. psieve2https://www.blogger.com/profile/06936845941099262693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-81010886781110430062017-01-30T02:36:27.055-05:002017-01-30T02:36:27.055-05:00The Church is the greatest threat to Satan. Perso...The Church is the greatest threat to Satan. Personal behavior of clergy is not protected from error, so Satan can influence some to do what he wants, though in a way that sounds like God is instructing them, even if it contradicts His public revelation. Some still stay with the Democrats, because they stood up for the Catholic immigrants and labor rights at one time. Some just totally lost their way and some of them could have been infiltrators. God help all those types. Those lay people who know better about Church teaching will not be able to use that as an excuse to follow heretics to Hell or to curse them for doing so to others and/or join schismatuc groups, sedevacantists, other churches, non-Christian faiths or even no religion. The leaders will still fall all the harder. We will need to stay on the barque of Peter and save those off it by prayer, example and mentoring. Conservatives of other faiths or no faiths shouldn't point at us. They might cery well have porn-watching clergy and goddess worshippers amongst their church attendees or like-minded and they will be next, if Satan downsizes us, with God's permission, as Pope Benedict once prophecied. psieve2https://www.blogger.com/profile/06936845941099262693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-65356628986696230902017-01-29T21:54:48.224-05:002017-01-29T21:54:48.224-05:00Bergoglio is a former heretic. He is planing somet...Bergoglio is a former heretic. He is planing something very evil with a newly appointed commission on investigating the interpretation of Latin in different languages. Bergoglio is going to attack the Latin and prescribe it to his New Age Catholic Church. Bergoglio's New Gospel. Bergoglio is Judas Escariot sitting and laughing and mocking God from the Chair of Peter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-16127607933572354372017-01-29T20:23:51.966-05:002017-01-29T20:23:51.966-05:00Concerning an Anti-Pope and False Prophet
God has ...Concerning an Anti-Pope and False Prophet<br />God has given some of us the gifts of wisdom and discernment. Wisdom is not to be confused with knowledge that can be gleaned from books written by men. You may also recall what God also spoke about that:<br />But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat. For in what day soever thou shalt eat of it, thou shalt die the death.Gen2:17<br />Unfortunately today both priest and layman have ignored these words stuffing themselves full of it's fruit and swinging from it's branches.<br />From the pulpit and in private knowledge is promoted rather than the intention of Solomon:<br />Give therefore to thy servant an understanding heart, to judge thy people, and discern between good and evil.1Kings 3:9<br />If you have the gifts of wisdom and discernment God has so bestowed these gifts that they be used even for the edification of the clergy that are so lacking.<br />As clearly stated in the petition of Solomon wisdom is for judging and discerning good and evil in His people. In the old testament His people were the Jews. Today His people are Catholic Church from layman to Pope and even those that have fallen away (both layman and pope.) <br />It is exceedingly foolish to believe that some council or members of the hierarchy would declare Bergoglio Anti-pope and False Prophet before the schism. Having such great understanding would be schismatic.<br />Bergoglio is the Anti Pope and False Prophet. The understanding and the the voice or lack thereof of any one or all of the priests in Rome or the deceived faithful does not change things.<br />For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.Matt24:24<br /> peasantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-891650347922732292017-01-29T16:10:57.493-05:002017-01-29T16:10:57.493-05:00I beg your pardon, but the SSPX IS "in the fo...I beg your pardon, but the SSPX IS "in the fold". When Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated four Bishops on June 30, 1988, he categorically stated that he was NOT founding a new Church but that he was doing this for the good of the Catholic Church.<br /><br />The SSPX Bishops are to ordain Catholic priests according to the traditional rite for the preservation of the Catholic priesthood and confirm the faithful who asked for it.<br /><br />Sorry if this is a repeat - I'm all thumbs today.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-39087694375807918242017-01-29T15:11:50.552-05:002017-01-29T15:11:50.552-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Osusannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182930197449324545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-23900280260306149792017-01-29T15:08:26.392-05:002017-01-29T15:08:26.392-05:00When I came into the Church a number of years ago ...When I came into the Church a number of years ago I came because the Church was true in what it taught. I asked only one question, and that was as to why heretics in influential and high places in the Church were not excommunicated? I did not get a satisfactory answer but I came into the Church just the same. I also wondered why priests did not take a leadership role in fighting abortion and in opposition to changes in Catholic schools. I soon learned that their was a split in Catholic thought, one orthodox and the other modernist! I could not understand why unorthodox views by the clergy were tolerated. Now we have a pope that seems to me to be unorthodox. If only the Church had filtered out wrong teaching before the unorthodox got the upper hand we would not have this mess. Sad and upset while most of the Catholic world seems to yawn without concern. MaxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-32867525891110190672017-01-29T14:23:49.431-05:002017-01-29T14:23:49.431-05:00I've greatly enjoyed reading your blog over th...I've greatly enjoyed reading your blog over the last six months or so but took you out of my bookmarks this morning. Why? Because I think your position on Bergoglio and the Church is inadvisable. And your entry disclaiming Ann Barnhardt convinced me. I firmly believe we're at an inflection point where the faithful need to make tough determinations, including where they stand on Church hierarchy. 1.2 billion Catholics risk being boiled alive like unsuspecting frogs if they continue to blindly follow this "pope" and his many sycophants. The time has come to publicly declare him antithetical to the Catholic Church, nevermind the papacy.<br /><br />One only needs to read a chronology of headlines and quotes related to Bergoglio since his election (https://thewildvoice.org/pope-francis-chronology-perspective/) to see he's not Catholic. He clearly stated there is no Catholic God. I'm not convinced he's even Christian given his frequent inability to utter Jesus' name or genuflect before the Holy Eucharist. It's clear he has more in common, philosophically, with Aleister Crowley, freemason and occultist, than with Doctors of the Church. Just ask the many masonic lodges that celebrated his election, praised him and stated that nothing would be as it was before.<br /><br />How much more do people need to see and hear to realize this man is an imposter, a dangerous charlatan? The time to equivocate is past. If cardinals continue to sit idly by as this butcher destroys the Church from within then the faithful must exhort these same cardinals to action while declaring Bergoglio is unfit to the office.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01224733997160352867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-50519008320379962532017-01-29T11:17:35.784-05:002017-01-29T11:17:35.784-05:00“The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar o...“The apostasy of the city of Rome from the vicar of Christ and its destruction by Antichrist may be thoughts very new to many Catholics, that I think it well to recite the text of theologians of greatest repute. First Malvenda, who writes expressly on the subject, states as the opinion of Ribera, Gaspar Melus, Biegas, Suarrez, Bellarmine and Bosius that Rome shall apostatize from the Faith, drive away the Vicar of Christ and return to its ancient paganism. ...Then the Church shall be scattered, driven into the wilderness, and shall be for a time, as it was in the beginning, invisible; hidden in catacombs, in dens, in mountains, in lurking places; for a time it shall be swept, as it were from the face of the earth. Such is the universal testimony of the Fathers of the early Church.”- Henry Edward Cardinal Manning, The Present Crisis of the Holy See, 1861, London: Burns and Lambert, pp. 88-90)<br /><br />I read things like this, along with prophecies like La Salette that say that Rome will lose the Faith and become the seat of AntiChrist. But my question is this: doesn't the dogma of Rome's indefectibility make Rome's apostasy impossible? In other words, Rome itself teaches dogmatically that Rome can never fall into error, and yet starting at Vatican II it started to contradict previous teachings and now we are looking toward possible full blown apostasy. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what indefectible means?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-68716112898853749752017-01-29T10:40:24.031-05:002017-01-29T10:40:24.031-05:00I believe we have reached a fork on the straight &...I believe we have reached a fork on the straight & narrow path to Heaven where we all must decide which way to turn. Protocol will not help us in making that decision so must be dispensed with. False obedience, false ecumenism, false symbols (crucifix cross, buddhas, etc.), incense to false gods to placate infidels, false teaching (no Catholics God, Atheists can get to Heaven, evangelisation is a sin, conscience overrules Truth, get angry with God - tell Him our sins are His, etc.). Everything this man teaches while sitting on the Throne of St. Peter is FALSE. Why then cannot our informed consciences speak the truth? Why should we succumb to this individual purporting to be the Vicar of Christ who signs off a Papal Exhortation giving the 'right' to non-repentant sinners to continue in their sin while having access to Holy Communion? Why does a man holding the title of Pope allow active sodomites to continue to say Holy Mass & preach the Gospel draped in their rainbow colours & why does he surround himself with such 'advisers' & appoint so many to episcopal positions while demoting those with better qualifications & sanctity? The constant reports of Satanic Black Masses in the Vatican & elsewhere, continuous blasphemy against Our Lady, the evils of Abortion & Euthanasia progress without the voice of our pope raised against such demonic behaviour. He could have had the Vatican & precincts exorcised but no, he prefers to persecute Traditional Catholics & their priests. What authentic pope would ever want to hand over the entire CC to the NWO & could such a man ever command the obedience of God's faithful? I would have to say NO he cannot. <br /><br />So we are now at that fork in the road & it is no longer feasible to hide behind old habits of reverential discipline that were good & proper when bestowed upon a true shepherd, which the title Vicar of Christ on Earth should portray, but they cannot be viewed as either proper or wise to bestow on someone who blatantly is a wrecking ball for all of Christ's Commandments, scripture, tradition etc. of the True Faith & puts Christ's faithful on the same level as infidels. We cannot allow ourselves to be intimidated by threats of excommunication from a man who clearly is not fulfilling his duty as Supreme Pontiff of the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church, who by his teaching is leading the sheep away from Our Heavenly Father & who brings ignominy on the Catholic world trying desperately to follow in their Master's footsteps. <br /><br />The CC will survive because it is a Divine institution & as this is the Centenary Year of Fatima & also the year of Satan's Last Stand, we should endeavour to renew our Baptismal promises & work for the eradication of this demonic evil in our midst & continue to call it what it is without consideration for political correctness. Ana Milanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13614286775064340959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-46333865216159521992017-01-29T10:33:28.037-05:002017-01-29T10:33:28.037-05:00Regardless how our present situation in the Church...Regardless how our present situation in the Church and with Pope Francis is precisely defined or described it must reasonably be concluded that there is a high likelihood that the devastation predicted by Our Lady of Fatima may soon come to pass soon. Directionally I am with Ann Barnhardt. Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-6784794363945314772017-01-29T08:17:32.673-05:002017-01-29T08:17:32.673-05:00Thank you Johnno!Thank you Johnno!Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-86014404937411968112017-01-29T07:23:57.899-05:002017-01-29T07:23:57.899-05:00Barbara Jensen said...
Vox, I am puzzled by your d...Barbara Jensen said...<br />Vox, I am puzzled by your description of the third secret of Fatima. Ann Barnhardt's assessment of Bergoglio is unwarranted by you because 'we can only know what we know', ,,,<br /><br />Barbara, Hold on here, I based my little projection with what WE KNOW, about Fatima. It all comes from what the Vatican itself released. Are you now aware of that? The Pope crawling over the bodies of priests and religious up a hill where he is shot and dies? That is public information. Remember she said, "we saw a bishop dressed in white." She did not say the Pope. Later they said, they presumed it to be "the Holy Father." Why did they not recognise and only presume? Because he was wearing white, not a mozetta, etc. It could be Francis, but it could also be Benedict, or it could be neither.<br /><br />Something destructive must happen for that apocalyptic scenario to take place. We also know from public information that the "dogma of faith" would remain in Portugal. Did that mean the Portuguese State which now sanctions abortion and worse? Or did it mean that it where the dogma would dwell? Yes, I am speculating. . I have no special knowledge.<br /><br />If Ann, and Monday Vatican is right, and he is planning to call a Council, Ann's reasoning is sound, it is a threat now that may be done. I don't disagree with her. <br /><br />Yes, the Cardinals and Bishops must STOP him from calling a Council by OUTING his intention. They are for the most, spineless, effeminate cowards.<br /><br />Ann's mistake is to publicly declare Bergoglio and antipope. She does not know that, nor do I or anyone. She is not competent to do it. She is giving an opinion.<br /><br />Only a future Pope or Council can declare him as one because they would determine, with fact, that Benedict was indeed ousted and was still actually Pope while Bergoglio was elected and took the Office. We do not know this. Is it possible? Absolutely, but we can't declare something to be true that we do not know is true!<br /><br />You also said:<br /><br />"Now he is tampering with the Liturgy. Soon it will be the Holy Eucharist. Can you not see the trajectory he is following with great speed?"<br /><br />I agree and I've written on this before, I think in the last couple of days.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-57855673777503489152017-01-29T07:05:18.182-05:002017-01-29T07:05:18.182-05:00Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas : I suggest you meet a pr...Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas : I suggest you meet a priest to enquire about the possibility of a sanatio in radice. I'll pray for you.ChrisRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200501246947648393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-19856813726228771062017-01-29T02:37:31.882-05:002017-01-29T02:37:31.882-05:00Oh man...VIII...that is a heavy threat....I don...Oh man...VIII...that is a heavy threat....I don't know what to say.Momentum Veritatishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05084115129969842792noreply@blogger.com