tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post5933616218513827516..comments2024-03-27T11:26:55.051-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: Archbishop Prendergast read the GIRM!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-72801726569274440852012-04-30T02:58:35.359-04:002012-04-30T02:58:35.359-04:00It comes from those who value community over sacre...It comes from those who value community over sacredness and reverence. <br /><br />And the tricky way they are pretending its and order from the CCCB and we all must conform is evil. <br /><br />The next schism will come from those who think that community trumps the sacred in all things liturgical, pastoral and theological. <br /><br />I have never stopped kneeling am creating wallet-sized cards with the GIRM instruction for those who are bamboozled into standing. <br /><br />My own parents know not one word of theology or liturgy but sensed on their own that kneeling is the most respectful posture and refused to go along with the sheeple in their parish and their liberal priest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-35616963376131318932011-12-11T19:05:27.128-05:002011-12-11T19:05:27.128-05:00Perhaps to answer my own question...in 2003 Cardin...Perhaps to answer my own question...in 2003 Cardinal Arinze was making a point that this standing after communion didn't come from Rome and he should know.From Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083105291622283031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-44303991163495120382011-12-06T20:59:41.258-05:002011-12-06T20:59:41.258-05:00Does all this standing business come from Pope Joh...Does all this standing business come from Pope John Paul II's proclamation of the 2002 third Roman Missal and the GIRM to go with it? That was the impression I got from the Archbishop of Ottawa's letter. Who are these liturgical experts that are playing change for change sake?From Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083105291622283031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-77447984099170836612011-12-06T17:56:34.264-05:002011-12-06T17:56:34.264-05:00Anonymous:
I wish you were a Canadian bishop (if...Anonymous: <br /><br />I wish you were a Canadian bishop (if you aren't you should be!). <br /><br />Your eloquent words have greatly settled my mind. I go up and down over all this stuff. I do not know if there is any "division" in the Catholic Church so much as a lot of intolerance and quibbling over things that aren't really that important. <br /><br />What is important is God. Catholicism shares God with many faiths. I think God loves everyone, regardless of faith, regardless of standing or bowing or kneeling... I think a Universal Church has room for a lot of diversity, and that "diversity" in no way is synonomous with "division". <br /><br />If we (me included) stopped thinking "our way" is the "best way" and/or "the only way" a lot of "divisions" would disappear. We create "divisions" with intolerant thinking. <br /><br />I have heard a Bishop explain the standing during communion theory, and the sincerity and joy in his presentation was very touching. I don't share his view, but perhaps only because I am not strong enough yet to embrace it. <br /><br />I don't understand why the Mass needs to be run like a military parade. <br /><br />Forgive me, love me, accept me, dear Church. I love you.maria klaranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-47235346647272504132011-12-06T06:24:11.948-05:002011-12-06T06:24:11.948-05:00Besides we already had a unity of posture. Everybo...Besides we already had a unity of posture. Everybody knelt in thanksgiving together after they had received communion. <br />It's true that some people have already received and some have not and that the difference in posture emphasizes that reality. But that difference sill exists even with the new posture. Waiting for everybody to receive before we all sit or kneel togehter doesn't change that reality. As it is now, some people are waiting to get in line, some people are in line and some people are no longer in line. The fact that they are all standing doesn't change anything and does not effect any new unity between those who have received and those who haven't. The practice of kneeling immediately after receiving communion makes more sense if ask me. If anything, it gives the communion procession more meaning because it symbolizes the idea that people in the communion procession are processing towards a deeper communion with God and with one another - a communion that they enter into upon receiving communion. The people after communion are in a greater state of communion with God and with one another than they are with the people who have not yet received. This makes more sense than the present practice which implies that people are in communion as much before receiving communion as they are after. If that's the case, what's the point of communion?<br />It also puts the cart before the horse. It suggests that our communion with God derives from our communion with one another. In fact the opposite is true. If we are in communion with one another, it is because we have first been brought into communion with God in, with and though Jesus Christ. And only because we are each in communion with God, are we in communion with each other. It is Christ who reconciles us with God and with one another. <br />It is largely because we put the cart before the horse in this regard that there is so little unity in contemporary Catholicism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-80064941340124836082011-12-06T00:42:09.076-05:002011-12-06T00:42:09.076-05:00This "unity of posture" thing really has...This "unity of posture" thing really has become the latest fad in clergy think. I don't buy it. Unity is greater than dressing the same, talking the same, looking the same, mimicking each other and so on.<br /><br />In my little mind and heart, unity doesn't require coercion of the body. Unity is in our spirits. Unity is in our hearts. Don't the clergy trust us?<br /><br />Whoever dreamed up this posture stuff may sincerely believe it. Fine. If people want to do it, fine. Wonderful in fact. Good for them. But--- <br /><br />I just want to gratefully go kneel down after receiving communion because I love God and am so overwhelmed and grateful to receive him... If this is an offence to the Catholic Church, then the Catholic Church is an offence to me.<br /><br />Sorry if I completely misread this posting and jumped to a paranoid panicky reaction. But I sense "control" and that makes me <br />very nervous.maria klaranoreply@blogger.com