tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post1375854098526506625..comments2024-03-27T11:26:55.051-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: Cardinal Zen on the Vatican plan to sell out the Church to China's communistsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-5144151785515365792018-01-30T20:14:26.615-05:002018-01-30T20:14:26.615-05:00Wow! What is it, in what just happened, that peopl...Wow! What is it, in what just happened, that people (including Card. Zen) don't understand? <br />When pope Francis says "he does not want to see more "Mindszenty" cases", he is NOT SAYING or pretending that he doesn't want to compromise with the communist government; he is NOT SAYING that he wants to act contrary to what the Church did in naming Mindszenty's successor (one more in the liking of the communist government). What he IS, actually- and very plainly- SAYING, is exactly the opposite: he is saying that the reason why he IS compromising and calling the Vatican appointed bishops to "step down", is PRECISELY to avoid "another Mindszenty case", that is: persecution against the (underground) church of China. Remember the movie "Silence"? <br />The statement issued by the Vatican is NOT at all in contradiction with what the pope told Card. Zen, it really is a CONFIRMATION! OF COURSE pope Francis is "in constant contact with his collaborators" and very well aware/informed of what is happening. Of course! What do people NOT understand?! <br />Poor Card. Zen was (and still is, unfortunately) so blinded by his genuine and ingenuous loyalty to pope Francis, that he was incapable of understanding what the pope was ACTUALLY saying "to his face" (he was NOT lying!). He was saying: My dear, I understand your concerns, but all that I'm doing is trying to spare- you all- unnecessary, additional, sufferings... (!)<br />These times are so confusing that even when the pope starts "telling it like it is", even when he is (at last and plainly) speaking the horrible truth, people understand the opposite... how sad. How unfortunate!Adeodatanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-70029679354671753022018-01-30T19:39:30.762-05:002018-01-30T19:39:30.762-05:00Was there not a similar situation in Poland at one...Was there not a similar situation in Poland at one time ? mazarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15217902381707497139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-20206660473963433402018-01-30T14:26:50.294-05:002018-01-30T14:26:50.294-05:00Cardinal Zen is too kind. Cardinal Zen is too kind. Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-43674917299177167122018-01-30T13:37:22.134-05:002018-01-30T13:37:22.134-05:00We didn't have to wait long for time to tell. ...We didn't have to wait long for time to tell. The Vatican now fully admitted that Francis was aware and fully backed the sell out.<br /><br />They infer that Zen made up Francis' reassurances. But it is more probable that Francis simply lied to his face.<br /><br />So much for those on the prepheries!<br /><br />https://onepeterfive.com/vatican-issues-statement-contradicting-cardinal-zen/Johnnonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-22931743695295035182018-01-30T09:54:32.364-05:002018-01-30T09:54:32.364-05:00To be willing to be considered a pariah and a trai...To be willing to be considered a pariah and a traitor to traitors is likely to bring bad things down upon your head. It is also to heap great heavenly rewards, but those will not necessarily be evident while one lives and breathes.<br />We may not see one like the great Cardinal Zen. <br />May God come to the aid of the suffering church in China and around the world, and soon. <br />Kathleen1031https://www.blogger.com/profile/10201084623185206141noreply@blogger.com