Thursday, 26 May 2016

Michael Voris takes on Tom Rosica on his "cesspool of hatred"

"Francis wants us to be warm, welcoming and forgiving as Jesus has modeled to us on every page of the New Testament. Francis wants us to eat with tax collectors and sinners; ... "The Digital World and Catholic Blogosphere"...the big battlefield before humanity is also the digital world: ... You only need a keyboard, a screen or a hand-held device. In the wild, crazy world of the blogosphere, ... there is no accountability, no code of ethics, and no responsibility for one’s words and actions.  It can be an international weapon of mass destruction, crossing time zones, borders and space. In its wake is character assassination, destruction of reputation, calumny, libel, slander and defamation. ...“Catholics” have turned the Internet into a cesspool of hatred, venom and vitriol, ... character assassination on the Internet by those claiming to be Catholic and Christian has turned it into a graveyard of corpses strewn all around. Often times the obsessed, scrupulous, self-appointed, nostalgia-hankering virtual guardians of faith or of liturgical practices are very disturbed, broken and angry individuals, who never found a platform or pulpit in real life and so resort to the Internet and become trolling pontiffs and holy executioners! In reality they are deeply troubled, sad and angry people. ... The light of Christ reflected in the Church must not become the privilege of only a few elect who float enclosed within a safe harbor or ghetto network of communications for the elite, the clean, the perfect and the saved.  This would be a “church clique” or a “personal blog” or “chat room” more than an ecclesial community." Thomas J. Rosica, CSB to the DeSales Media Group, Brooklyn

"A couple of weeks back, Vatican aide Fr. Thomas Rosica was giving a speech to a couple hundred people in the diocese of Brooklyn, and in his characteristic style of pronouncing judgment on all those who do not buy into his pro-gay, pro-contraception, Church of Nice approach to theology, let go a heckuva condemnation. This from the messenger of mercy himself: "Catholic blogs are a cesspool of hatred."
Well, thank you, Father, who sued (attempted to sue - Vox) a Canadian Catholic blogger a while back because the blogger was questioning your heterodoxy. 
Thank you, Father, who brings known dissidents on to your barely viewed Salt & Light TV outfit in Canada and praises them and calls them your hero and role model as you fawn all over them." Michael Voris

Deacon Rosica on "sharing" 


Peter Lamb said...

"In our time more than ever before, the chief strength of the wicked, lies in the cowardice and weakness of good men... All the strength of Satan’s reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics. Oh! if I might ask the Divine Redeemer, as the prophet Zachary did in spirit: What are those wounds in the midst of Thy hands? The answer would not be doubtful: With these was I wounded in the house of them that loved Me. I was wounded by My friends, who did nothing to defend Me, and who, on every occasion, made themselves the accomplices of My adversaries. And this reproach can be levelled at the weak and timid Catholics of all countries."
—Pope St. Pius X, Discourse at the Beatification of St. Joan of Arc, Dec. 13, 1908.

Jonah said...

A question must be raised, particularly by families who must find their place in a wider community:

What is a legitimate community?

A seminary filled with gay candidates for the priesthood? An apostate religious order? A media and PR empire inspired by Henry Luce designed to undermine the faith? A parish dominated by church feminists who defy and undermine even good and holy priests? A school board corrupting our children, youth, and even the teachers it employs?

I wonder what Fr. Rosica imagines when he envisions "community".

geoff kiernan said...

Yes, well said Michael Voris.
I suspect there is a difference between the Vitriol and Venom that Rosica speaks of and the Lies and the outright heresy spruiked by the likes of Rosica.
Let him remember that the vitriol and venom is directed at the lies and the heresy, Not the individual

Peter Lamb said...

Liberalism [modernism] is a bad thing. To call the public defenders and professors of Liberalism bad [evil] is no want of charity.
As the Church has always considered heresy a very grave evil, so has she always called its adherents bad and pervert. See how the Apostles treated the first heretics, how the Fathers and the Church herself in her official language has pursued them. There is no sin against charity in calling evil evil; its authors, abettors and its disciples bad; all its acts, words, and writings iniquitous, wicked, malicious. In short, the wolf has always been called the wolf.
We must render evil odious and detestable. We cannot attain this result without pointing out the dangers of evil. Christian oratory of all ages has ever employed against impiety the most vigorous and emphatic rhetoric in the arsenal of human speech. To be impassioned is not to be reprehensible — when our heat is the holy ardor of truth.
St. John the Baptist calls the pharisees a “ ace [brood] of vipers"; Jesus Christ, Our Divine Saviour, hurls at them the epithets "hypocrites, whitened sepulchres, a perverse and adulterous generation," without thinking for this reason that He sullies the sanctity of His benevolent speech.
St. Paul criticizes the schismatic Cretians as "always liars, evil beasts, slothful bellies." The same Apostle calls Elymas the magician a "Seducer, full of guile and deceit, a child of the devil, an enemy of all justice."
St. Thomas of Acquin [Aquinas] hurls his violent apostrophe against William of St. Amour and his disciples: "Enemies of God" he cries out, "ministers of the devil, members of antichrist, ignorami, perverts, reprobates!"
St. Bonaventure overwhelms his adversary Gerard with such epithets as "impudent, calumniator, spirit of malice, impious, shameless, ignorant, impostor, malefactor, perfidious, ingrate!"
Did St. Francis de Sales ever purr softly over the heretics of his age and country? He pardoned their injuries, heaped benefits on them even to the point of saving the lives of those who sought to take his, but with the enemies of the Faith he preserved neither moderation nor consideration. Asked by a Catholic, who desired to know if it were permissible to speak evil of a heretic who propagated false doctrines, he replied:
"Yes, you can, on the condition that you adhere to the exact truth, to what you know of his bad conduct, presenting that which is doubtful as doubtful, according to the degree of doubt which you may have in this regard." In his Introduction to the Devout Life he expresses himself again: "If the declared enemies of God and of the Church ought to be blamed and censured with all possible vigor, charity obliges us to cry wolf when the wolf slips into the midst of the flock and in every way and place we may meet him."

The essential difference between ourselves and the Liberals [modernists] on this subject consists in this, that they look upon the apostles of error as free citizens, simply exercising their full right to think as they please on matters of religion. We, on the contrary, see in them the declared enemies of the Faith, which we are obligated to defend. We do not see in their errors simply free opinions, but culpable and formal heresies, as the law of God teaches us they are. Our Catholic standpoint is absolute; there is but one truth, in which there is no room for opposition or contradiction. To deny that truth is unreasonable; it is to put falsehood on the level with truth. This is the folly and sin of Liberalism. To denounce this sin and folly is a duty and a virtue. In this same way the law of the Twelve Tables of the ancient Romans ordained to the virile generations of early Rome: Adversus bostem aeterna auctoritas esto, which may be rendered: "To the enemy no quarter."
(Extracted from: Fr. Felix Sarda y Salvany, Liberalism is a Sin, translated by Conde B. Pallen, 1899.)

Anonymous said...

Paul Morphy :

Ministeries such as Vox, CMTV, AKA Catholic, OnePeterFive are all upholding the traditional virtues and values and teachings of 1,950 years of Catholicism.
Rosica and Kasper and the others are teaching their own man-made devised policies. How dare Kasper employed Rosica criticise any Catholic. Rosica is a proven charlatan, as is Kasper.

It's time to clear the temple of those who without scruple defile our Church. We know who you are and you know that we know who you are. That's why you attack us - well expect your attacks to be met with fire power and more, Rosica & co. These people appall me and they appall every right thinking Catholic.

Anonymous said...

"The light of Christ reflected in the Church must not become the privilege of only a few elect who float enclosed within a safe harbor or ghetto network of communications for the elite, the clean, the perfect and the saved."

Exactly, that's why priests should not blog. Ever.

Kathleen1031 said...

What arrogance and hubris from Fr. Rosica. They can expect more of the same. As a middle-aged grandmother, I am fed up with these men stealing our Catholic heritage from my children and grandchildren. They have worked hard to take the practice of our beautiful 2000 year old faith and turn it into the worship of men, and not even healthy men at that, but sodomites and effeminates who bugger children. I won't have it! We will do everything in our limited power to go against you, and while we don't know how things will fare in the short term, we feel absolutely positive that the victory will be Christ's, someday, and certainly not yours.
Don't feel too encouraged by cultural victories. You WILL fail.

Fortes In Fide said...

I'm happy that Michael Voris is defending Orthodoxy against the likes of Fr. Rosica. I'm just wondering when Michael Voris will realize that Fr. Rosica is able to do what he does (and that is slowly destroy the Church) simply because of Pope Francis' full support.

When will Michael Voris call out Pope Francis especially with all his heretical pronouncements - from gays and gay marriage (and alas apologizing to them!), to belittling the issue of abortion, to allowing the divorced to receive communion, to saying that all religions are equal, to desecrating the holy grounds of the Vatican with the evil light show on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, etc.?