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Showing posts with label Nasty Trads. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Nasty Trads. Show all posts

Wednesday 10 November 2021

Rome, literally, attacks the Holy Mass and the FSSP while you attack Vox Cantoris

Just a few days after the Cardinal of  Westminster and his buddy at the liturgical congregation in Rome, a know-nothing named Roche distort and literally lie about the ancient liturgy, the Vicar of Rome has declared an outright war, banning the sacraments beyond Mass, sacramentals and the Easter Vigil at the FSSP and the whole Triduum elsewhere. This action by the Vicar of Rome is not exclusive. This writer knows of specific cases close to home with similar decrees. 



Concurrently, Cupich in Chicago has taken on the Mass himself no doubt threatening the very existence of the ICRSS and the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius. 


Yet, while this evil is going on and this writer has warned about the intransigence of some the so-called faithful Catholic trads have used other blogs to deride this writer. One out there by some guy named Fred which I viewed once and will not again is one. The other is of my good friend Barona at Toronto Catholic Witness who send me these:



Barona won't be publishing these, he sent them to me to do so. You have proven me correct.

You fail to understand ecclesiology. You fail to understand corporation sole and basic property rights. You fail to understand legitimate authority whether you happen to like it or not. You continue at TCW and some guy named Fred and probably others by now to point to this writer while the collapse is all around you. You are no doubt, all Americans, all influenced by evangelical protestant heresy and do not think as Catholics, do not discern as Catholics using the whole body of Catholic teaching and thought of two millennia. 

Let me give some basic facts about the law in Ontario. The Chief Medical Officer of Health has been given extraordinary powers due to a declared pandemic. Many of these powers have existed in the revised Health Protection Act for more than a century, since the Spanish Flu. This masking in public places including churches is a mandate under the Act. The bishops have instructed all to follow the civil law and have made their own commands to ensure it. You may not like it but that is the way it is in Ontario. You may wish to debate the justification of the law, the pandemic itself, that is a different debate.

Let us look at what the Catechism has to say:

Authority does not derive its moral legitimacy from itself. It must not behave in a despotic manner, but must act for the common good as a moral force based on freedom and a sense of responsibility: A human law has the character of law to the extent that it accords with right reason, and thus derives from the eternal law. Insofar as it falls short of right reason it is said to be an unjust law, and thus has not so much the nature of law as of a kind of violence. 

Authority is exercised legitimately only when it seeks the common good of the group concerned and if it employs morally licit means to attain it. If rulers were to enact unjust laws or take measures contrary to the moral order, such arrangements would not be binding in conscience. In such a case, authority breaks down completely and results in shameful abuse. —Catechism of the Catholic Church , nos. 1902-1903 

The citizen is obliged in conscience not to follow the directives of civil authorities when they are contrary to the demands of the moral order, to the fundamental rights of persons or the teachings of the Gospel. Refusing obedience to civil authorities, when their demands are contrary to those of an upright conscience, finds its justification in the distinction between serving God and serving the political community. “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29): When citizens are under the oppression of a public authority which oversteps its competence, they should still not refuse to give or to do what is objectively demanded of them by the common good; but it is legitimate for them to defend their own rights and those of their fellow citizens against the abuse of this authority within the limits of the natural law and the law of the gospel. —CCC, n. 2242

I suggest that "despotic" acting governments are of grave concern but this is debate on how far some have gone. The "common good" is a debatable point - I have taken Cardinal Collins to task for using this to the promotion of injection, not a mask. A mask in a pandemic is not unreasonable. The obligation of conscience not to follow involves the fundamental right of the person not to receive an unwanted medical intervention, not use fabric to prevent the transmission of a virus - whether or you think it works is not the point.

More importantly, the Mass is worth crawling on broken glass to get to. A mask is a minor inconvenience. People have died for the Mass. You choose to stamp your feet like a spoilt child.

To suggest that it is worth shutting down the Mass rather than wearing a mask proves that you are a faithless and hopeless cretin. To use this logical and moderate series of posts on this matter over a very real situation when the Devil is prowling for destruction as evidenced above proves you are in his control. Sadly, you're proving Bergoglio's very argument in Tradtionis Custodes about those people. You have fulfilled the evil monsters Alinskyite actions and played right into his hands and those of Cupich, Roche and others.

You have proved me absolutely right. 

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Friday 9 December 2011

Why are "trads" so ignorant and nasty?

While this blog has often been critical of many actions in the liturgy particularly the manner in which the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite is often celebrated, this time my attention is going to be turned in a different direction.

Do we go to Mass to worship and pray or do we go to make a fuss to others about little things?

Many of us have been bothered by liturgical abuse in the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite. The correct response is to note it and deal with it after Mass with the priest or bishop. On the other hand, you can do what I've often done, get up and leave.

However, this little column is going to be a little different from what is usually posted here because it needs to be said and that is liturgical abuse by the laity in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite. But first, let me rant a little more so you get the picture of where I am coming from.

Some people who attend the Traditional Latin Mass can try ones patience.

Now, I have never considered myself a "Trad" or a "Traditionalist," someone has even had the temerity to label me a "Neo-Cath." Another labelled me as having "modernistic tendencies." Other have said that I am  a "Trad" and other that I am not "Trad" enough.

Well, they can think whatever they want, I am a Catholic.

But while these labels are rather unfortunate, I'm going to nevertheless, use one.

"Trads" can be a nasty group and give the cause a bad name.

Last night in Toronto a beautiful Mass was held for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary. It was a Missa Solemnis at St. Lawrence the Martyr in Toronto. The three Sacred Ministers were joined by three priests "in choro." The Servers were excellent as usual and the organist and choir were splendid.

It's the cranks that show up that are the problem.

So, let me rant because this is my blog.


1. Look friends, many people that come to these Masses are first timers. If they don't read the note in the liturgical handout about not singing the Pater Noster and they sing it, so what? But when you "trads" all go sssshhhhhh what you did was actually a vile intrusion on the Holy Mass. They acted in singing out of innocent ignorance, you acted out of rudeness, malice and what you did was a debasement of the liturgy. Stop it! What you "trads" did was a liturgical abuse.

2. Gothic Vestments are NOT NOVUS ORDO. They are called "Gothic" for a reason. In fact, the conical style "Novus Ordo" vestment as you refer it is actually of more ancient use than the "Roman" or "Fiddleback." Now, stop the whining about these little things and smarten up.
3. Artwork that shows the Blessed Virgin Mary's hair in paintings of the Immaculate Conception are not "Vatican II" and do not indicate that I am a "modernist." Until the puritanical Victorian 19th century with its feminine featured Jesus and its burka clad young Virgin and the über-puritanical attitude of you 21st century "Trads" the Immaculate Conception was portrayed as a pre-pubescent girl, a young virgin and without a veil as in the post two below this one which is a more recent rendition of the style of the many in the same style from the 15th century onward.
4. A Read Mass (Missa Lecta) with Dialogue is not a "Novus Ordo" invention. Nor is standing for the Pater Noster and the Postcommunion a "Novus Ordo" invention. The Church has desired that the people respond to the priest even though you have your preference for absolute silence. This is not where we are now or where the restoration will be. So you can drop this paranoia about NovusOrdoIsms. This is not a liturgical experiment or innovation. Read the rubrics!


You would think that these "trads" would be overjoyed with what has been happening since Pope Benedict XVI issued Summorum Pontificum and the recent Universae Ecclesiae.
As an example, when was the last time a Solemn High Mass in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite was offered in the Archdiocese of Toronto before last night? How about over 40 years ago!

Now behave yourself and be joyful for what has been accomplished, if you can be.


Some "trads" are really an offering up.


There, I feel better now.