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Showing posts with label Communion in the hand. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Communion in the hand. Show all posts

Sunday 8 January 2023

Clericalist and demonic. Reportedly, the Apostolic Nuncio to Costa Rica forces woman off her knees and to take Communion in the hand!

Where is the smell of the sheep?

Where is accompaniment?

This has just been made public following up on the action of a priest at the funeral of Pope Benedict XVI. 

This is spiritual abuse. 

https://twitter.com/matthew__theo/status/1611389775881146369



Monday 6 July 2020

TIME SENSITIVE SURVEY ON THE BANNING OF HOLY COMMUNION ON THE TONGUE

URGENT – TIME SENSITIVE – INFO NEEDED ABOUT DENIAL OF COMMUNION ON THE TONGUE – REPOST, TWEET, ETC.

If you have a blog, please re-post this.  Please TWEET and RETWEET.  Please put on FACEBOOK, etc.   The link: https://wdtprs.com/?p=114749
canonist contacted me asking for help in a worthy endeavor.  He is collecting some information for defense of Communion on the tongue.
He has a deadline with the Vatican: Tomorrow, 7 JULY – NOON Rome time
(= UTC+2 London UTC+1), NYC UTC -4, Tokyo UTC+9)
This is for everyone in the world, not just these USA.
Has your local DIOCESAN BISHOP or PRIEST issued any decree, statement, or announcement in which - for any reason whatsoever - he has forbidden distribution and/or reception of Holy Communion on the tongue?

You do not need to give your name. Additional message is optional.

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Friday 26 June 2020

So what is the best procedure on the distribution of Holy Communion?

The posts below deal with the reaction of priest, bishops and cardinals to the current China Virus calamity and the government's emergency orders. Cardinal Collins and the bishops of Ontario have banned Holy Communion on the tongue - they hint that they have been bullied by public health officials but they don't come out and say it directly. They also have not fought back or come up with a strategy to work within the Law and provide for the faithful.

Yet, they are not being totally forthcoming. The Archdiocese of Kingston in eastern Ontario has not banned Holy Communion on the tongue. There may be others, please advise me. Kingston's request is simply to come at the end of you wish to receive on the tongue and to a priest not an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion. 


We know that the Society of St. Pius X in Toronto, New Hamburg, St. Catharines and Orillia and elsewhere in their missions are following the occupancy guidelines but are giving Holy Communion on the tongue. It is after Mass with the priest having washed and wearing a mask, distributes. I have today watched a video from St. Aloysius the FSSP parish in the Diocese of St. Catharines from the Nativity of St. John the Baptist and the priest distributes Holy Communion on the tongue. 

So what is the deal here? Is it banned by the government or isn't it?

My view is simple. 

If the China Virus is as bad and transmissible as we are led to believe than Holy Communion by either hand or tongue is a risk of transmission. As someone who is 63 and with some conditions such as asthma, I understand the matter quite directly. For me, I will not attempt to receive Holy Communion during Mass. That is my choice. My right to decide.

The problem here is the alleged and subtle diktat of the bureaucracy and the acquiescence of our spineless episcopal leaders. If they did this the bishops should have said either, "we will not comply" or "we will get back to you with a plan of how we are going to do this safely."

Holy Communion does not need to be received at Mass. The Mass is not dependent on the laity nor is Holy Communion to the laity necessary for the Mass. The Sacrifice is complete upon the consumption of the Elements by the priest - just as in the ancient Temple.

If this was the diktat, Holy Communion in general should have been suspended at Mass and an alternative implemented. The bishops should have simply told the Government how it was going to be, not the other way around and challenged them to a court battle. 

Since I advised on this blog in the middle of March that Mass should continue with a limit on building capacity and a ticket system and that has not been accepted by My Eminence, then allow me to again place done my lay mitre.

No communion during Mass on hand or tongue. People are encouraged to make a spiritual communion which the Bishop shall order read by the priest after the Our Father in both forms, OF and EF. Holy Communion is distributed on hand or tongue in the OF (given current Church provision) and only tongue in the EF, after Mass using the following practice.


  1. The Priest or Deacon only, no EMHC, shall wash their hands using soap and water and put on a mask.
  2. They shall then wash their hands again.
  3. They return to the sanctuary with the Sacrament and beside them have two pedestals or tables. On the right to hold the ciborium and on the left, an ablution cup, linen towel and bottle of hand sanitizer.
  4. A family comes up together and individual alone with proper distancing.
  5. The priest uses sanitzer and then provides Holy Conmmunion to each family/individual.
  6. He then washes his fingers in the ablutions cup and dries them to protect the integrity of the Sacrament. Once done, he then uses hand sanitizer again and repeats the above.
  7. The ablutions cup is then dealt with in the normal manner.


If Father needs to stand there for three hours, so be it. If people need to wait, so be it.


There is the solution. This is what should be done and the government should be told to sue us.

The faithful have been abandoned by spineless men.

Spineless | We the Governed

Wednesday 24 June 2020

Only a "tiny minority" upset about Communion in the hand - Thomas Cardinal Collins


In a webinar for priests held today in the Archdiocese of Toronto the matter of the illegal forbidding of Holy Communion on the tongue was again raised. Thomas Cardinal Collins was adamant that it is not to occur and said those upset were a "tiny minority."

In other news, ...


The analogy is apt.

Tuesday 23 June 2020

Accusations by the Cardinal, Bishops and priests that they were "ordered" to give Holy Communion in the hand is an outright lie. Here is the proof!

The post two below refers to the state of Holy Communion in the hand as ordered by the Ontario bishops.

A priest in the Diocese of Hamilton went so far as to state that the government would shut down the Latin Mass. 

Liars, all of them. Tough word calling these men all liars. Well, the truth shall set you free.

Barona has it right here. 


The Archdiocese of Kingston in eastern Ontario has provided a simple remedy for Holy Communion on the tongue.

One can only conclude that those who say that the Chief Medical Officer of Health has regulated Holy Communion - a perposterous suggestion - are liars.

As for the priest, Father Brendan McGrath the "Chaplain" for the Extraordinary Form in the Diocese of Hamilton who wrote this, well, you can draw your own conclusions. Your smart enough.



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Sunday 21 June 2020

Today, we return - mind your paws!

If you are here in Ontario, you will be able to attend Sunday Mass for the first time in three months. Thanks be to God, not to our episcopal hirelings. What a disgrace as is this poster. 



As important as we think we are, we are not necessary for the Mass. if that were the case, why was the Mass being offered if we were not there over the last three months? The Holy and Divine Sacrifice of the Mass is not dependent upon me or you, it is dependent on the priest. It is not anyone's Mass but Christ's! The ignorance and deception of those who put out this poster is astounding. 

Initially, I supported the restriction of public Mass, but never the closure of churches for private prayer or private reception of the Sacraments - all of them! My wife and I are fortunate that we were never denied. I had Confession from the car, we attended three private Masses in a locked church and received Holy Communion. Thank you, God.

I supported the restrictions because at the time, Italy was our example of where the China-Wuhan Virus was going and not China which can never be trusted with the truth. We were heading for an overwhelmed heath care system. I believed that if we all stayed home for three weeks from about March 16, we would break the virus - because of its incubation period. Even choir practice became deadly. Something evil was going on.

I took an incredible amount of abuse over the matter. Almost as much as my defense of Michael Voris's actions against the alleged sexual abusers and the cover up in the Society of St. Pius X. (To my friends in the SSPX, especially in Toronto, you know this was not personal, only to get to the truth.)

Both resulted in the reduction on the blog roll and a loss of "friends" and followers. So be it. There loss.

I argued that Mass was still going on even though many insisted it was cancelled and suppressed. I went so far, and I still believe, that the Wuhan Virus was a chastisement from God for the betrayal of the Church in China and the worship of pagan idols by Bergoglio. I argued that it was and is your right to get the Virus by your carelessness, notwithstanding my taxes to make you better, but not to give it to me or anyone else just so you can go to Mass. Do you all remember this poor family

The Church should have been opened by Easter. That would have been nearly a month and would and would have allowed time to put safety protocols to be in place and a ticket system developed. On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 I wrote this:



At the time, I suggested reducing building occupancy and creating a ticket system. 

I'm glad they finally listened. 

My prediction is that this will be a turning point for the many dioceses. Some will go bankrupt and it will be well deserved. 

Many people will not return. Some will be put off by these absurd restrictions, some will have found something else "better" to do on Sunday morning, some will figure that I can be "at" Mass and still fold the laundry (it is a devotion on TV or the computer at best - you are not at Mass). Some will go to the SSPX (I know this is happening in Toronto and bully for them!). This will hurt and it will hit the income line and I say, hurray!

In a few hours, my wife and I will drive two hours to where I chant the Mass in the Ancient Rite. We will not receive Holy Communion, the priest will not distribute. He will not disobey his bishop and he will not disobey the Church's rubrics on the Holy Mass. We and the people will pray and not receive in our hands. Are we better than those who do? No. We are just more aware of the abomination of the practice.

You will be forced today in the Modernist Rite (and the Toronto Oratorians will go along with the abomination in the traditional Mass, just as they did in 2009 when Cardinal Collins banned communion on the tongue (send pictures please) to receive Holy Communion in the hand. 

I will tell you this. It is an abomination and I ask you to think twice before you do it. I understand the sacrifice you are making and have made. It is the sin of those who have denied you. It is the sin of Giovanni Montini who allowed it. Priests are compelled under obedience to follow it. It is a disgraceful tragedy in the life of the Church.

It is your decision friend.



Monday 15 June 2020

Diocese of Hamilton Priest accuses Ontario Provincial Government under Doug Ford of threatening to prevent Mass if Holy Communion not given by hand - "Could lead to suspension of the Latin Mass."

Updated: June 16, 2020 5:20 P.M.

The current situation with the beginning of Mass in Ontario is one of great distress due to the orders that Holy Communion only be by the hand. This is not how Archbishop Michael Miller, CSB of Vancouver has handled this question stating, "The faithful have the right to receive Communion in the hand or on the tongue." The Ontario's bishops are a different lot - they are much wiser and much more health conscious and no doubt, have been whipped by lawyers!

On June 15, 2020, this was made public by Father Brendan McGrath a priest in the Diocese of Hamilton and a chaplain for the "extraordinary form" of the Roman Rite.


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I want you to read that third paragraph again.


I have reached out to Father McGrath to explain this inflammatory and hyperbolic rhetoric and he has not responded. I have asked him to justify this quotation and provide evidence to its veracity. He has not.

If true, this statement represents an intervention unseen in the Church in Canada in her history. It is akin to the French Revolution and it is unconstitutional. As much of it pains me to state it, Father Brendan McGrath has committed a grievous act by this statement and he must either lay out proof for this or retract it.

Why do I say that?

Because last Sunday, the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter parish in Thorold, Ontario and the Society of St. Pius X in Toronto and elsewhere in Ontario all had Mass, and all followed the Province of Ontario's emergency regulations and all distributed Holy Communion on the tongue, the SSPX, after Mass.

Further, I have for you to read now, below, the actual documentation from the province made available to Catholic and Protestant Ministers across Ontario and nowhere is this threat made.  

The Government of Ontario under legitimate authority has reduced occupancy to 30%. That is it. They have mandated nothing else. Is Father McGrath suggesting that Douglas Ford, the Premier of Ontario made covert threats to the Cardinal and Bishops in Ontario? If so, this is global news. That is the potential of McGrath's statement. If anyone is responsible for this; if anyone has threatened the existence of the traditional Latin Mass in the Diocese of Hamilton and Ontario, it is Douglas Crosby, OMI, the Bishop of Hamilton, not the Premier of Ontario.

We have written to the Premier of Ontario, Douglas Ford and two of his communication staff and requested comment.

After reaching out today (June 16, 2020 to Mr. Neil MacCarthy, Director, Public Relations and Communications for the Archdiocese of Toronto, the following comment has been received:
     "Quite simply, the advice regarding the distribution of communion is coming from medical experts (both those consulted by the Assembly of Catholic Bishops of Ontario and those in various municipal and provincial health jurisdictions) with extensive experience in pandemic containment, management and prevention." 
     "For this reason, acting responsibly for the common good, and conscious of Our Lord’s command to love our neighbour, Cardinal Collins and the other Ontario bishops have decided that on the basis of the best current medical information, and to protect other people, it is necessary to temporarily suspend the right to receive Holy Communion on the tongue at this time."
This is consistent with what I have been told from other Dioceses. Why is Father McGrath intimating the black hand of government when it is clear, the medical experts consulted, and no doubt the lawyers, made these recommendations - the government simply required thirty percent!

McGrath must reveal the truth and his source or he must retract this statement and be held to account for this and the blatant accusation of governmental overreach for which there is no evidence other than one man's unproven and inflammatory rhetoric of epic proportions in the history of Canada. 












Thursday 11 June 2020

BREAKING NEWS: ARCHDIOCESE OF TORONTO HAS ORDERED PRIESTS TO REFUSE HOLY COMMUNION ON THE TONGUE!

BREAKING NEWS: The Archdiocese of Toronto is at this hour holding an online conference with its priests to plan the reopening of churches for public Mass. 

Mass will not take place for the public this Sunday as after 12 weeks of lock-down, the plan to reopen could not be formulated well before now.

Without exception*, which means not even in the traditional Latin Mass, Holy Communion in the hand is mandated and priests are to refuse anyone who presents to receive Holy Communion by the tongue. (The SSPX Church of the Transfiguration remains an exception - you may register for Mass at https://sspx.ca/en/church-of-the-transfiguration and since you will be so thankful you were able to do so, you will be smart an go every week and take you money there too.) 

See the source image* While it is not in writing, there was discussion that if a person insists on receiving Holy Communion on the tongue they will be able to come after Mass. Sounds like the old drinking fountain practice. 

Segregation!

There is to be no kneeling for Holy Communion at any remaining communion rail (few and far between) or any prie-dieu because people touch it and it would need to be disinfected after each user. Fox (my wife) would like to add, that this would be a good job for Susan from the Parish Council or the numerous "Eucharistic Ministers" who shouldn't be touching It in the first place. This job is reserved for the priests.

It must be noted that the last time Cardinal Collins banned Holy Communion on the tongue during the H1N1 fraud, the Toronto Oratorian priests complied and distributed Holy Communion on the hand at the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite Masses in their churches. 

In November 2009, Cardinal Collins banned Holy Communion on the tongue due to the perpetuated fraud and hysteria of H1N1. A few days later, I attended a funeral at St. Michael's Cathedral for the late Msgr. Barrett T. Armstrong of St. Michael's Choir School. As an obedient Catholic I went to Holy Communion and received in the hand (I was not fully woke and assured by the Oratorians that it would not be my "sin.") The Deacon to the right of the Cardinal provided me with Holy Communion in the hand. To my right a woman approached the Cardinal, opened her mouth and gave her Holy Communion on the tongue. I, who obeyed his edict watched him disobey his own edict. 

At the time, I was the Schola Master of the 19 month joy of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter's apostolate in Toronto. They would not give Holy Communion in the hand. Father Howard Venette printed in the bulletin, "In accord with the Canon Law of the Universal Church, Holy Communion at this Mass is only received on the tongue." In March, they were gone after only two months earlier having the parish promised them revoked after a gang-up by the usual suspects outside the Cardinal's office. But I digress...

https://voxcantor.blogspot.com/2010/02/fssp-apostolate-in-toronto-comes-to-end.html



https://www.archtoronto.org/covid19/Documents/Archdiocese%20of%20Toronto%20Return%20to%20Church%20-%20WorshipSafe%20Guidelines%20-%20June%2010%202020.pdf

This writer will not be going to Holy Communion under any circumstances in public because I do believe that some priests just don't know how to do it and I've had more saliva in my mouth from other than I would like to recall. Neither myself nor my wife or myself will ever receive in the hand.

Now, speaking of Holy Communion.

A blessed Feast of Corpus Christi to you all.