tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post6604803363910048200..comments2024-03-27T11:26:55.051-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: Divine Mercy image and theology? Where are His wounds?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-56097957881334894162023-01-05T10:20:47.242-05:002023-01-05T10:20:47.242-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00829664068982769371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-28919676255308891212020-05-04T00:25:29.643-04:002020-05-04T00:25:29.643-04:00Great article, Thank you.
It's another Medug...Great article, Thank you. <br /><br />It's another Medugorje. And it's cultists are often the same people as the Medugorje cultists. They certainly ACT and speak the same.The Diary is an absolute bad joke and the pictures are horrendous. The Sacred Heart and Crucifixion images inspire love, even though they are technically "gory"....the Divine Mercy inspires UNEASE.....even though it's just some badly proportioned twink in a sheet.....I used to feel guilty for not liking a picture of "Jesus".....but then I remembered that Mormons, protestants, New Agers and other heretics also claim to have pictures of "Jesus".RockChickAnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08223027222073366764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-78259933966933548062020-04-19T16:03:21.552-04:002020-04-19T16:03:21.552-04:00A closer look at the image shows it actually does ...A closer look at the image shows it actually does have the wounds of Christ. You can see an archbishop talking about it in this short video - <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=uSB7uiE7sTA&feature=emb_logoWesley Falcaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09910606858982654113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-17542812897055159932020-04-19T15:59:52.098-04:002020-04-19T15:59:52.098-04:00A closer look at the image shows it actually does ...A closer look at the image shows it actually does have the wounds of Christ. You can see an archbishop talking about it in this short video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=19&v=uSB7uiE7sTA&feature=emb_logoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-74895269181049772172019-09-30T06:11:03.032-04:002019-09-30T06:11:03.032-04:00I thought so too until i visited Krawkow couple of...I thought so too until i visited Krawkow couple of years back and found how fervent Catholics there still are as compared to most other European cities. Also the only place in Europe where i find the ENTIRE cathedral packed for Sunday evening mass. No where else in Europe, not even in Rome.<br />Guess this testifies that God indeed has blessed Poland with the best gift ever -- faith!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-28220367990834304452019-08-22T12:00:40.943-04:002019-08-22T12:00:40.943-04:00I was never drawn to this devotion. Everyone is g...I was never drawn to this devotion. Everyone is going crazy over this devotion. I took down the picture of Pope John Paul 2 after I read so many of his heresies. The same goes with Pope Benedict and the current Pope Francis. All the Popes, starting from John the 23rd, are heretics. Pope Francis is outperforming everyone. <br /><br />I will never leave the catholic Church -- no matter what!! antoni rajnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-50202238998769863622019-05-05T04:42:11.572-04:002019-05-05T04:42:11.572-04:00The Divine Mercy cult is an intentional diversion ...The Divine Mercy cult is an intentional diversion by the Church from Our Lady of Fatima and her revealed and un-revealed messages. Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-71018521294127267662019-05-04T19:00:20.716-04:002019-05-04T19:00:20.716-04:00I never felt easy when I said the prayer because i...I never felt easy when I said the prayer because it says have mercy on us and on the whole of the world. Who are the 'us' I thought - should it not read have mercy on me and on the whole of the world? Is she referring to Poland? And as for the image of Jesus not having wounds this really disturbed me because when i was a young girl, a very quiet man in our church told my mother that he saw Jesus either in a dream or a vision and as he looked on his beauty he suddenly went into a cold sweat with fear because Jesus had no wounds and he realised it was Satan. Having said that I have prayed the novena for years but now with the controversy surrounding it - I'll go back to my Rosary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-36364340135065442372019-04-29T17:06:02.742-04:002019-04-29T17:06:02.742-04:00“… and the host came out of the tabernacle and cam...“… and the host came out of the tabernacle and came to rest in my hands and I, with joy, placed it back in the tabernacle. This was repeated a second time, and I did the same thing. Despite this, it happened a third time…” <br /><br />and “When the priest approached me again, I raised the host for him to put back into the chalice, because when I had first received Jesus I could not speak before consuming the host, and so could not tell him that the other host had fallen. But while I was holding the host in my hand, I felt such a power of love that for the rest of the day I could neither eat nor come to my senses. I heard these words from the host: I desired to rest in your hands, not only in your heart.”<br /><br />Sacrilege on a grand scale (heresy as well?) - Only the Priest's consecrated hands may touch the consecrated Host. So she is claiming that Jesus desired her to commit sacrilege. That in itself is sufficient to warn off any true Catholic. One wonders whether she left Christ lying on the floor......why couldn't she speak?<br /><br /><br />"From now on, do not fear God’s judgment, for you will not be judged."<br /><br />Heresy.<br /><br /><br />“Jesus” says to her: “For your sake I will withhold the hand which punishes; for your sake I will bless the Earth.”<br /><br />Not for His Father's or His Mother's? Pride, pride, pride.<br /><br /><br />My daughter, if you wish, I will this instant create a new world, more beautiful than this one, and you will live there for the rest of your life.”<br /><br />In her dreams! Pride, pride, pride!<br /><br /><br />“Jesus” says: “That is why I am uniting myself with you so intimately as with no other creature.”<br /><br />Not even Our Lady? Heresy.<br /><br /><br />“Jesus” says: “I see your love so pure, purer than that of the angels, and all the more so because you keep fighting. For your sake I bless the world.”<br /><br />Not for His Mother's sake? Because only Our Lady is purer than the Angels, so heresy - again!<br /><br /><br />"How terribly ugly Satan is! The poor damned souls that have to keep him company! Just the sight of him is more disgusting than all the torments of hell."<br /><br />Who's she kidding? Herself?<br /><br /><br />Plenty more such non-Catholic claims in the book.<br /><br /><br />Then there's this - taken from a website but I can't remember which!<br /><br />Quote from Dom Gueranger, on the Sunday Octave of Easter:<br /><br /> "Such is the solemnity of this Sunday [Low Sunday] that not only is it of greater double rite, but no feast, however great, can ever be kept upon it." -The Liturgical Year<br /><br />2 novelties will have happened if Divine Mercy is celebrated as a feast:<br /><br />1st Private revelation will be proposed on a Sunday feast (no precedent)<br /><br />2nd Easter is already a double feast: The Sunday Sabbath and the Feast of Easter. What we are saying is that we can have a triple feast in one liturgical day to be celebrated simultaneously. Another novelty.<br /><br />Why would Dom Gueranger make such a strong statement that "no feast, however great" cannot be kept and yet a pope who was a master of smashing liturgical rules is now considered orthodox? Either Gueranger is right or wrong, and he's right.<br /><br /><br />Then there's that picture - when I first saw it in a Cathedral I wondered - seriously - which new age eastern guru they were worshipping and whether I'd misunderstood that it was supposed to be a Catholic Church. Still creeps me out - very, very seriously.<br />Heloisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11887722947851878229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-44626929953021727592018-05-20T06:29:46.678-04:002018-05-20T06:29:46.678-04:00I first saw “Divine Mercy” image when I used to ha...I first saw “Divine Mercy” image when I used to have a New Age Spiritual web site, I didn’t like it then. I had started to question the channels coming through mediums on my site, eventually I left my site and went through three years of dark night, I then finally began to cautiously start trusting ‘the spirit world’ again and follow my guidance , thanks to Mother Mary and St Mary of the Cross MacKillop and I went back to my Catholic Church ( I hadn’t been a practing Catholic for decades) there was that image again, in the small room where they keep the Eucharist, the image was also on a visiting Polish priests garment , then I was randomly given a card with it on, which I refused to accept, so I researched it and read what Jesus said to Sr Faustina , it is ego stroking! It is comical ! The host jumping around ! Seriously! It is like the channels coming through mediums, it is why I started to doubt them and left the New Age in the first place. It was very hard for me to distrust the channels, it meant I had to distrust my own ‘spirit guides’ they had lovingly guided me for seven years, it broke my heart, I was devoted to them, but I had to face up to the fact that I was very likely being deceived , sometimes you just have to face facts, even if you don’t want to. I still hope and pray I have choosen the right path, I will probably never know, I feel as if I am in limbo, not trusting my heart, trying to use my head to discern , as the bible says the heart can be deceived !Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16350571269841031704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-25353772443978795152018-04-12T06:27:46.517-04:002018-04-12T06:27:46.517-04:00Those whom the Lord loves he chastises and afflict...Those whom the Lord loves he chastises and afflicts. Poland clung to her Faith through it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-85463353748107925242018-04-11T21:56:33.399-04:002018-04-11T21:56:33.399-04:00I wonder if the lack of wounds could be due in par...I wonder if the lack of wounds could be due in part to influence from Eastern icons, which are more common in parts of Poland than in most Catholic countries. In Byzantine icons, Christ's wounds are not depicted except in icons directly related to the Passion and Death of our Lord or to his appearance to St. Thomas. In the case of iconography, this is a convention wherein the icons depict spiritual realities, not earthly ones; this is also the reason St. Paul is in icons of Pentecost, though he was not physically in the Cenacle. There is a folk belief in some predominantly Eastern-rite countries that Christ is depicted without his wounds lest Satan foolishly attempt to claim some victory over him.<br /><br />I am generally of the belief that a lot of the Sturm und Drang over this devotion is unwarranted. Devotions come and go; there are dozens of chaplets; nowhere does the devotion ask for the Rosary to be replaced. I don't personally make much use of the Divine Mercy devotion, but I just cannot see what is objectionable about it. The Church survived for a millennium and a half without the Sacred Heart devotion, and most Easterners continue to do so; a different devotion based on Christ's Mercy shouldn't be all that bad.<br /><br />JoshAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-45649249919485655872018-04-11T21:38:17.813-04:002018-04-11T21:38:17.813-04:00I Like this prayer... I don't like that prayer...I Like this prayer... I don't like that prayer... I don't think this vision or that one is true..<br /><br />STOP! STOP THIS RIGHT NOW! THE NEXT FEW DAYS WILL BE THE VERY LAST FOR SOME OF YOU! BEND YOUR KNEES, PICK WHATEVER PRAYERS YOU WANT OR WHATEVER PRAYERS YOU MAY KNOW AND PRAY! Ask God to have mercy on your soul and everyone else. Prepare for the health, safety and security of your family in the coming times. May God have mercy on us all.peasantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-80098574859015453962018-04-10T08:50:01.155-04:002018-04-10T08:50:01.155-04:00. We should not pit one Mass against another or on...<i>. We should not pit one Mass against another or one devotion against another.One is not better then the other.</i><br /><br />Anyone who can not tell that the Real Mass is far superior to the Lil' Licit Liturgy reveals himself as a questionable judge of objective facts.<br /><br />In form and content, it is not even close.<br /><br />Now, maybe there are those who think it was a good idea to kill the offertory and replace it with the meal prayers of the Messias-Deniers, but not ABS.<br /><br />ABS prefers the prayers of those who do accept Jesus as Messias.<br />Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-83141979588794775172018-04-10T08:38:10.642-04:002018-04-10T08:38:10.642-04:00One frequently is confronted with an infestation o...One frequently is confronted with an infestation of Medj flies. They are annoying but you can swat them away. Two consecutive Bishops of Mostar declared there was nothing supernatural about them and the putative seers are proven liars.<br /><br />The Divine Mercy image is offensive to ABS. This is Jesus Christ, King of Heaven and Earth?<br /><br />ABS also thinks the image is creepy and weird.<br /><br />But it is in keeping with the modern tendency towards Lutheranism.<br /><br />This image fits with the propagandistic agenda of Our Pope and Our Cross that cleaves Jesus Christ in half and so we have Jesus solely as Mercy absent His Justice.<br /><br />It is, literally, a half-assed theology because it presents to us a half-assed Christ- with only His Mercy.<br /><br />Franciscus (Ratzinger too) considers His Justice as a cruelty....<br /><br />Good luck with pitting Jesus against Himself.<br /><br />ABS will stick with the whole ChristMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-47736152246542772142018-04-09T20:44:40.108-04:002018-04-09T20:44:40.108-04:00In the diary Faustina says that Jesus told her tha...In the diary Faustina says that Jesus told her that He loves Poland in particular and was going to bless it especially. Well, Germany invaded and the Soviets invaded and the Red Army went on a rape spree and the Soviets stayed for decades. That doesn't sound like a blessing. Dymphnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469622835449220113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-76368754955929683952018-04-09T18:45:19.416-04:002018-04-09T18:45:19.416-04:00I'm old enough to remember when the post Vatic...I'm old enough to remember when the post Vatican II liturgist "reformers" had pretty well banished devotion to the Sacred Heart along with the statues in our churches.<br />Then JP2 came along, and instituted "Divine Mercy" idea.<br />I figure that the "Divine Mercy" is just God's way to reboot the idea over the "reformers".<br />And if you notice, unlike Francis with his "get out of hell free" ideas, the Divine Mercy writings stress repentance will get you God's mercy. Nancy Reyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910134058143426327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-55547710618934434942018-04-09T13:58:56.448-04:002018-04-09T13:58:56.448-04:00Private revelations are not part of the deposit of...Private revelations are not part of the deposit of the Catholic faith nor its function is improve or complete the final divine revelation of Jesus Christ as stated by the catechism itself. I return to the devotion of the Sacred Heart that has never been prohibited or so controversial especially for the devotion of divine mercy has to be twisted in such a way that its devotees even use it to justify mortal sin as we have seen.nazareusrexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454367666847330071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-55994271143160814482018-04-09T13:56:35.551-04:002018-04-09T13:56:35.551-04:00You mad? Ya, you m -a- d.You mad? Ya, you m -a- d.Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03228323311972752793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-53982487535164541522018-04-09T13:45:50.114-04:002018-04-09T13:45:50.114-04:00Satan can appear anywhere he wishes as well. Satan can appear anywhere he wishes as well. Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03228323311972752793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-82562955294341244782018-04-09T13:41:19.513-04:002018-04-09T13:41:19.513-04:00Medugorje is a diabolical hoaxMedugorje is a diabolical hoaxShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03228323311972752793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-25777672676303566332018-04-09T12:25:01.559-04:002018-04-09T12:25:01.559-04:00St. Faustina absolutely hated the original paintin...St. Faustina absolutely hated the original painting of Jesus. She was devastated and disappointed. Her comments make that clear.<br /><br />I just went and took a good look at an old, famous and very popular painting of the Sacred Heart on my wall. It is sold on several Catholic sites. Christ has no wounds on His hands. <br /><br />The focus of the Divine Mercy is the blood and water from the wound in Christ's side. The focus of the Sacred Heart is His heart. <br /><br />As for the mushy love talk in St. Faustina's Diary, it is mushy love talk, not formal theology. People in love talk like that. "The sun rises and sets on her" is not an error in astronomy. Go read the Song of Songs. That is really mushy. Guess who created mushy. God. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-65900783804238610952018-04-09T09:55:46.838-04:002018-04-09T09:55:46.838-04:00A NEW Francis-Church "Divine Mercy" Chri...A NEW Francis-Church "Divine Mercy" Christ with NO Wounds!<br /><br />http://www.periodistadigital.com/imagenes/2018/04/08/el-papa-ante-un-cuadro-del-jesus-de-la-divina-misericordia.jpg<br /><br />I thought back when I first encountered it that it would be used to promote touchy-feely mercy without justice.<br /><br />And along came Francis. It's the core of his routine.Kathleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-50412895295574372542018-04-09T09:18:57.586-04:002018-04-09T09:18:57.586-04:00Back in 1976 (when JPII was not yet Pope) I was ro...Back in 1976 (when JPII was not yet Pope) I was rootling around a second-hand bookstore in San Francisco when I came upon a small handmade pamphlet of no more than a dozen typewritten pages, stapled and bound together by faded construction paper. I can't remember the title of the booklet, but it contained the prayer we now call the "Divine Mercy Chaplet."<br /> <br />I fell in love with the prayer right away. It reminded me of what the Angel of Fatima taught the children, so regardless whether it has been approved or not, I started to pray it regularly. Imagine my suprise when in a less than a decade, it would be one of the most popular prayers in my lifetime!<br /><br />I was delighted to hear of the origin of the prayer and how the new Pope promulgated the devotion. I attended seminars and watched discussions on Divine Mercy on EWTN, and eventually got myself a copy of Sister Faustina's autobiography, "Divine Mercy in My Soul."<br /> <br />Then as if Heaven had fallen on me, my enthusiasm just deflated.<br /><br />The thing that turned me off with the book was the incident where Our Lord Jesus seemingly staged a tantrum, threatening to leave the tabernacle in the convent allegedly because some of the nuns therein were not holy enough (?) - can't remember now what His complaint was. <br /><br />Thus, He flew out of the tabernacle like a butterfly, attempting to escape, instead landing on Faustina's hands, who (if I remember correctly) lightheartedly cooed and put Him back inside the tabernacle. There, there. <br /><br />Three times, I think, this incident supposed to have happened, and much as I adore the Lord and believe He is fully present in the Eucharist, this portion of the autobiography, to me, was incredulous! As my late English husband would have said, "Poppycock and balderdash!" I had to get rid of the book.<br /><br />To this day, I love the Divine Mercy chaplet and pray it regularly after the Mass, the Rosary and the Liturgy of the Hours (in that order.) And to this day, too, I still feel nauseated by St. Faustina's autobiography. Sorry. <br /> <br />Mariehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00003965922434128196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-583471935795575172018-04-09T08:02:48.628-04:002018-04-09T08:02:48.628-04:00Good comments on Divine Mercy. There are enough o...Good comments on Divine Mercy. There are enough oddities in all of this that we are better off avoiding this devotion entirely. The fact that Divine Mercy is encouraged and our Lady of Fatima has been rendered passe should give us pause and the feminized picture of Christ without wounds is downright revolting.Michael Dowdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650782589323136700noreply@blogger.com