tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post6314888670292651759..comments2024-03-27T11:26:55.051-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: The Holy Moly Doors at Toronto's Our Lady of Sorrows ParishUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-15835283752058779592016-12-24T23:38:56.715-05:002016-12-24T23:38:56.715-05:00Comment to Anonymous; yes wealthy parishioners pai...Comment to Anonymous; yes wealthy parishioners paid for the hideous, ostentatious new doors. The wealthy affect EVERYTHING in this parish; which makes many of us feel unwelcome. Unless a tone of complete inclusiveness is created, many will attend Mass in other parishes.L McCarronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-25123394625819081102016-01-27T00:34:04.029-05:002016-01-27T00:34:04.029-05:00I'm going anonymous with my reply as I live in...I'm going anonymous with my reply as I live in fear of Vox and his rapier fingertips. Take a look at the last picture. The door (singular) was a gift to the parish from a group of wealthy Catholics within the Archdiocese, including several wealthy parish families. It was NOT purchased with Family of Faith dollars and thus NOT by unknowing Sorrows parishioners at large. This is fact. More facts: The door was created in Italy by one of the foremost sculptors of our time, Ernesto Lamagna (www.ernestolamagna.it), former secretary for sculpture at the Pontifical Academy of Fine Arts and Letters. He has created masterpieces for many Catholic churches around the world. The panels, frame (and keys!) are cast bronze and, as one might well imagine, weigh a whole lot (sorry but I don't have a number - suffice to say that the crane and crew struggled). The shipping alone amounted to tens of thousands of dollars. Plus installation. The door is a piece of fine art. Eye of the beholder, remember? These eyes behold a beautiful work that matches astonishingly well with the architecture of the church. It tells two moving stories remarkably well. It will be something people come to see, study, photograph and write about for generations. And you, dear reader... Have you come to see the door? The parish and indeed the archdiocese, is blessed to have it. In 1964/65 many cried foul at the exorbitant cost of the pipe organ ($37,500) and many more hated the mosaics and were shocked by their cost. Beautiful things - be they a pipe organ, marble panels, mosaics, a bespoke icon, or a door - COST MONEY. How much money is reflective of the times in which they are acquired. Oh and the carpet is burgundy, not brown, and is cleaned regularly, thank you very much. It will be removed soon enough in favor of a newly restored sanctuary floor. Looking forward to Vox's take on Renovations: Phase Two - 'The Cube'. Should be quite a ride (and read!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-70842051079573625132016-01-22T05:28:57.755-05:002016-01-22T05:28:57.755-05:00Hello Anonymous,
1. I never said they were the &q...Hello Anonymous,<br /><br />1. I never said they were the "Holy Door" or Magic sin forgiving mercy door of the Archdiocese of Toronto. The title was a play on words, you know. Holy Door, Holy Moly as in a lot of money?<br /><br />2. Did you read the article? Did you note that it was in Toronto's Archdiocesan owned Catholic Register, Page 4 bottom right the one with the Freemason Mozart on the cover?<br /><br />What you don't know is that I communicated with the Editor, Jim O'Leary, to confirm that there was not "0" missing. There was not.<br /><br />$400,000.00.<br /><br />Take it up with Nino!Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-19584931711291221182016-01-21T23:25:02.240-05:002016-01-21T23:25:02.240-05:00Hello Vox Cantoris
this church door is not the Ho...Hello Vox Cantoris<br /><br />this church door is not the Holy door of teh archdiocese of Toronto. Also do you have any proof to say that they have spent $ 400 000.00 on this new door to the churchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-9283086110602837712016-01-17T17:00:28.648-05:002016-01-17T17:00:28.648-05:00Thanks for the information. My heart is sinking ...Thanks for the information. My heart is sinking right now. <br /><br />How long, O Lord... (Psalm 6)<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-14815467532812029012016-01-17T15:13:49.625-05:002016-01-17T15:13:49.625-05:00A crucifix pushed to the side amounts to pushing t...A crucifix pushed to the side amounts to pushing the Crucified Jesus and his Sacrifice to the periphery of awareness. My dear father is very pleased. Who do we have to thank? Was it Rev. Cavuto or one of the Toronto "auxiliary Bishops" ? Screwtapeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893935518547817909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-50614963790728503612016-01-16T22:04:13.591-05:002016-01-16T22:04:13.591-05:00The Crucifix now hangs on a side wall. The Altar i...The Crucifix now hangs on a side wall. The Altar is there but without the Mensa which is part of the table.Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-36463859320395854412016-01-16T21:24:22.601-05:002016-01-16T21:24:22.601-05:00I can't imagine why anyone would want to tear ...I can't imagine why anyone would want to tear down that beautiful crucifix. Please say that they didn't tear down that magnificent altar as well. I couldn't tell by the photo.<br /><br />Lord, have mercy!<br /><br />P.S. I would like to post under my name, but I use Disqus and it's not listed under the options, so that's why I have to post as anonymous.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-9523606540636497222016-01-16T04:30:51.578-05:002016-01-16T04:30:51.578-05:00Money is no object for doors in the year of mercy!...Money is no object for doors in the year of mercy! If you walk thru these Holy-Moly doors during the Jubilee, you get TWO plenary indulgences! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-20818965271741095502016-01-15T20:30:55.296-05:002016-01-15T20:30:55.296-05:00Is the pastor receptive to the new liturgical move...Is the pastor receptive to the new liturgical movement or is the place hopelessly desacralised? Sam X.shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893935518547817909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-345711455588963492016-01-15T20:19:27.609-05:002016-01-15T20:19:27.609-05:00My father is very pleased.My father is very pleased.shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893935518547817909noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-66227061685831585632016-01-15T16:01:47.505-05:002016-01-15T16:01:47.505-05:00DOORS BEAR, TWO DOORS!DOORS BEAR, TWO DOORS!Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-18837693071059472312016-01-15T16:01:05.812-05:002016-01-15T16:01:05.812-05:00Sorry Bear-i-tone, you are wrong on this one. You ...Sorry Bear-i-tone, you are wrong on this one. You cannot compare this to the building of the Cathedral in Hamilton or the art in a sanctuary, altarware, organ and other such things to the Glory of God. These are doors. Two doors. Four hundred thousand dollars. How many years will you work for that? Do you think that it was a good expenditure? Does it matter what they look like? They are frankly, overpowering. There is a relief of St. Michael slaying the dragon. Good. The doors do not suit the building. There was nothing wrong with the formal doors that some varnish could not have fixed. <br /><br />Sorry, your argument does not apply to two doors at the insane cost. <br /> Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-40379996077203830962016-01-15T15:10:50.703-05:002016-01-15T15:10:50.703-05:00When the bishop of Hamilton began to build a new c...When the bishop of Hamilton began to build a new cathedral in 1931, he was pilloried in the press for choosing to do so. Times were hard, and the money- a whopping million dollars- could be better spent elsewhere helping the poor. The building could be put off for a better time. The bishop disagreed. "In a more prosperous time, we will pay a more prosperous price." And so Christ the King was<br />raised.<br /><br />The argument that the money for these doors would have been better spent elsewhere is easy to make and hard to refute, but it is also one that has been used time and again by those who would have us sell all our properties and art, and who would have us never build another church that is more than four walls and a roof, or, more precisely, would never have us build another church. I haven't seen these doors and have no comment to make on them, but I would hesitate to make the 'better spent' argument against them because I am so tired of hearing it used against me.Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01201581440686945990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-10099322370762069102016-01-15T11:44:51.431-05:002016-01-15T11:44:51.431-05:00My parents were married at Our Lady of Sorrows in ...My parents were married at Our Lady of Sorrows in 1957.Jim J. McCreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04790492811937831878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-64974640334906064572016-01-15T11:31:34.293-05:002016-01-15T11:31:34.293-05:00It is the presence of our Lord in the tabernacle t...It is the presence of our Lord in the tabernacle that transforms a place from an ordinary place to a sacred space. His presence can sanctify a barn and His absence can render a "cathedral" an empty shell. We ignore spiritual realities and are far too attached to the vagaries of atmosphere, artwork, decor and architecture. We are human and our dependence on externals is perhaps understandable but it can easily become a vice. Freyrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01706221683777453812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-26485627234090045702016-01-15T09:28:22.685-05:002016-01-15T09:28:22.685-05:00Barona makes a great point. We should be helping o...Barona makes a great point. We should be helping our persecuted and dying brothers and sisters in the faith, presently occurring in too many parts of the world. Have you heard about this issue in your parish? Have you heard of any mention of the radical sex "education" curriculum being implemented in our schools? I think most have not. But we all know about the Family of Faith professionally run fundraiser. That says it all. As if money and expensive doors alone will renew and streghten the faith. It's all so very sad.Everyday For Life Canadahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479325811094869718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-8731857634939390452016-01-15T09:20:59.155-05:002016-01-15T09:20:59.155-05:00Is this the "good stewardship" of the Ca...Is this the "good stewardship" of the Cardinal managing the capital campaign money? Did the people of OLS know they were giving their money to 400,000 doors? <br /><br />I wonder about other parishes - the 100,000 kitchen renovation at Holy Rosary in Toronto.... But lest people think I'm "urbaniphobic" I should also mention the 80,000 renovation to the pastors bedroom and bathroom at St Mary's in Richmond Hill... Do the people of these parishes know how their money is being spent? What about the people at Transfiguration in Etobicoke, left $1,000,000 or more poorer by a former pastor, who thought the collection money would be better spent at a casino?Ignotushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407527248771541611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-37808756017852831112016-01-15T07:15:56.020-05:002016-01-15T07:15:56.020-05:00Think of what that money could have done for our p...Think of what that money could have done for our persecuted brothers and sisters in Africa who do not even have roofs over their churches, after being burnt down by Islamists. <br /><br />Or, think of the poverty in Toronto. <br /><br />This is an exercise if feel good externals. This is disgusting, sinful, outrageous. <br /><br />Thanks for posting this. Baronahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265555388172261643noreply@blogger.com