tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post5854565805370623201..comments2024-03-18T09:49:25.084-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: Cantalamessa Makes a MessUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-15865352837305774722015-11-29T12:00:14.519-05:002015-11-29T12:00:14.519-05:00I always thought Christ knocked on our hearts and ...I always thought Christ knocked on our hearts and waited for us to open them to him.raphaelhealshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10303287275790199813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-88749805223629480672015-11-27T15:17:59.934-05:002015-11-27T15:17:59.934-05:00..."we must never allow a moral issue like th......"we must never allow a moral issue like that of sexuality to divide us"...<br /><br />Vox, maybe there is a silver lining? After all, at least Fr. Cantalamessa does refer to sexuality as a "moral" issue?! Maybe we can still inch back from the teetering edge of the precipice we seem to be on? <br /><br />I suppose the only next step if we keep going with the current momentum in Church and society is declaring abnormal sexual proclivities and degraded relationships to be actually superior to the sacred matrimonial union of a fully devoted husband and wife?<br /><br />Vox, THANKS for your spirited columns!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-57855363158158954472015-11-27T10:34:59.234-05:002015-11-27T10:34:59.234-05:00Ana,
You are incorrect or you are confused. There...Ana,<br /><br />You are incorrect or you are confused. There are at least 27 ancient and valid Rites in the Catholic Church. Latin is only one of them. There are Mozarabic in parts of Spain, Braga in Portugal, Milanese in northern Italy. Dominican and Carmelite. There are Maronites (me), Melkites, Persians, Chaldean, Copts (Catholic), Rutherian, Byzantine, Syro-Malabar and on and on. These have minor liturgical variations on the same Holy Qurbono or "OFFERING/SACRIFICE," in fact, they are moral loyal to traditional morally and liturgically than Latin Rite Catholics.<br /><br />Do not confuse rites with faith. <br /><br />The ancient Syriac is the closest to apostolic accuracy especially the chants because they even use the Aramaic language of Our Lord. <br /><br />All these liturgies in the East and Africa sprang from the same Apostolic source, Latin rite is simply that used in the West.<br /> <br /><br />Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-80145651694061898412015-11-27T09:53:04.335-05:002015-11-27T09:53:04.335-05:00The CC is, just like Humpty Dumpty, in smithereens...The CC is, just like Humpty Dumpty, in smithereens but unlike him it that can (by God's Will & Hand) be put back together again. This fracturing didn't come about overnight. It has been happening over centuries with each division claiming true Apostolic succession as followers of the other apostles. Mostly it was the result of fallen man not wanting to be subjugated to any higher authority than himself, certainly not one situated a long distance away in a country with different traditions (as if that had anything to do with Faith and the adherence to Christ's Commandments & Sacraments). There was a reason why Jesus chose Peter to be the one on which he would build His Church. He could have chosen any of the rest but didn't. When Peter settled on Rome to lay the foundations of Christ's Church that should have been accepted as the Mother House of Christianity. The saying "All roads lead to Rome" is correct but authority & obedience was always a problem with many great minds falling prey to Satanic tricks - after all, he tried to get Jesus to go against His Father in the Garden of Gethsemane.<br /><br />Liturgical rites should not be up for grabs. All matters of Doctrine, Liturgy etc. should come from the one source - Rome. Only in this way can Apostolic Tradition be kept intact. Once leeway is given to one set of human traditions then another & yet another will want the same accord leading to political rather than religious institutions often backed up by secular governments & monarchies to suit their aspirations.<br /><br />Is it not strange that Our Blessed Lady only ever appeared to Catholics? If those who ceded from from Rome were favourably looked upon by Her Son then surely she would have made similar appearances to them. Eastern Catholics holding tentative unity with Rome should submit wholly to the decrees of Mother Church and not continue in upholding separate ancient traditions which can only be viewed as contradicting the authority placed in Peter by Christ Himself. <br /><br />Jesus never said we would always be blessed with good popes (we have a shocker at the moment) but that He would always be with His Church until the end of time and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. It is beyond time that the other successors of the Apostles - Cardinals & Bishops who make-up the Hierarchy - came to their senses and required PF to stand down. They should remember that both Sts. Peter & Paul were martyred for the trust He placed in them, their successors will have to accept that martyrdom may have to be faced again so as to purge Satan from the Vatican & its Bishoprics. After all, that is precisely the depth of faith priestly ordination requires of one.Ana Milanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13614286775064340959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-49245028755750430312015-11-27T08:07:21.661-05:002015-11-27T08:07:21.661-05:00I pray to soon be able to attend the local SSPX ch...I pray to soon be able to attend the local SSPX church. Osusannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17182930197449324545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-80689411468650631592015-11-26T11:40:35.532-05:002015-11-26T11:40:35.532-05:00People may dispute the following from Father Klaus...People may dispute the following from Father Klaus Gamber, but he declared that "there is no question that the Roman Liturgy is the oldest Christian Rite."<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-59784650316575957692015-11-26T09:11:25.032-05:002015-11-26T09:11:25.032-05:00Ana, do not confuse "rites" with a lack ...Ana, do not confuse "rites" with a lack of unity. They are expressions of it. The oldest is not the Roman but the Syriac and the Ordinariate Anglican represents the Sarum.Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-88700367464795067692015-11-26T07:46:46.220-05:002015-11-26T07:46:46.220-05:00How far will God let this demonisation of His Chur...How far will God let this demonisation of His Church continue before He enters the fray? It cannot be long now! The past popes have all tried to destroy the structure of the Church from being One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic to being a Church divided into different sections in order to appease the populace of the areas they minister to. We have the Ordinariates sprung from Anglicanism, Eastern-Rite Catholics to counter Orthodoxy, Latin-Rite to assuage Traditionalists. There are great celebrations afoot to proclaim the Protestant Reformation in 2017 while none for the 100th Anniversary of Fatima as the Vatican doesn't "do" Fatima in case of offending its new heretical friends from all regions of the world. The Church Jesus came to found is now on the same level as non-catholics and the unbaptised. Does our Hierarchy even believe in God? Even though some might they don't appear to want to fight the good fight for Him and try to restore His Commandments, Sacraments & the Liturgy of old which provided a solid foundation for His whole Church to grow in holiness. <br /><br />This last Synod on the Family hadn't anything to do with the family but plenty to do with welcoming sodomites, adulterers, the homosexual community etc. Our schools/seminaries/universities are in a dreadful state and are reported as even referring students to abortion clinics. The terrible desecration of the Sacred Host in Spain recently where a man collected approximately 24 consecrated Hosts by being given Holy Communion in the hand has been glossed over by the Bishop. This couldn't have occurred if Holy Communion was only given on the tongue. It would seem now that transubstantiation has been given the knock by Vatican II and these adjustments are in accordance with that Council's conclusions. We can now only find solace in the Rosary and await the terrible chastisement Our Lady spoke of. God help us all!Ana Milanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13614286775064340959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-38943206187088336812015-11-26T02:54:02.099-05:002015-11-26T02:54:02.099-05:00There's actually a simpler explanation.
They ...There's actually a simpler explanation.<br /><br />They see which way the wind is blowing. We're increasingly living in a world where affirming Catholic morality makes you an enemy of the state. Affirming Catholic morality will increasingly get you sued out of existence, required to take "re-education training", barred from entering some provinces (e.g. more than a few foreign speakers were barred from entering Canada), even barred from some professions (e.g. some areas of medicine), and even being forced by the State to have an abortion (e.g. China and some U.S. court cases).<br /><br />We each have a choice to make, and martyrdom is increasingly a requirement of being a Catholic. Pope Francis has stated that he is extremely squeamish about being martyred. It's no wonder that he surrounds himself with people that affirm his "let's not make waves or we'll have to suffer" attitude.<br /><br />Anil Wangnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-66533496146385124022015-11-25T20:17:47.661-05:002015-11-25T20:17:47.661-05:00"Is the Preacher to the Papal Household calli..."Is the Preacher to the Papal Household calling for an end to Summorum Pontificum?"<br /><br />I hope that we someday end SP...as it, SP becomes obsolete as the TLM is restored as the centerpiece Mass of the Latin Church.<br /><br />But as far as anybody calling for the end of SP...forget it.<br /><br />The Traditional Roman Mass is here to stay. His Holiness Pope Francis has expressed his support for Summorum Pontificum. He has praised the TLM and recognized the Faithful's right to worship via the TLM.<br /><br />Pope Francis has praised the FSSP and exhorted them to remain true to their charism.<br /><br />Pope Francis has spoken well of the SSPX and desires peace between Rome and the SSPX. Beginning in fewer than two weeks, the validity of the Sacrament of Penance administered by priests of the SSPX will be beyond question as per Pope Francis' declaration.<br /><br />Pope Francis has spoken of Catholics attached to SSPX chapels as "faithful" Catholics. Via his recognition of the Sacrament of Penance administered at SSPX priests, Pope Francis will have increased the amount of Catholics who attend SSPX chapels.<br /><br />Everywhere we turn, interest in the TLM is on the rise. It is unimaginable that Rome would pull the plug on Summorum Pontificum.<br /><br />Not gonna happen.<br /><br />Pax.<br /><br />Mark ThomasMark Thomasnoreply@blogger.com