tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post1767912281393308258..comments2024-03-18T09:49:25.084-04:00Comments on Vox Cantoris: Apostolic Nuncio to Canada on Kneeling after CommunionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-65387517666458799502015-07-07T15:25:11.664-04:002015-07-07T15:25:11.664-04:00Barona....is it EVER!! The Real Presence is not o...Barona....is it EVER!! The Real Presence is not only being attacked in certain countries.......this is happening WORLD WIDE! Openly and unashamedly! The unbelieving prelates are now OUT AND PROUD. I read another horror story today online from someone distraught over her Pastor's proclamation from the PULPIT that to believe the Lord Jesus is truly there in this 'little wafer' is superstitious backward thinking!! Satan has no need to hide anymore, and he I am afraid will become even more vicious in a short time to come. God help us if this is just the tip of the iceberg, but I believe with very heavy heart, it is. TLMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16185788425122984772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-67380111008368812002015-04-30T02:34:50.518-04:002015-04-30T02:34:50.518-04:00You missed the best of canadian women
A;liberal f...You missed the best of canadian women<br /> A;liberal female federal politician from Nova Scotia. Rose??? Trudeau replaced her with a rapid homosexual. She took the Bishop of Nova Scotia to Rome and forced Rome to severely censure her parish priest and bishop and the verdict stated that no one was to refuse Holy Communion to those kneeling. We should get together and start taking these dictatorial shepherds before the Tribunals toute suiteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-62302694838158317562015-03-03T08:56:59.853-05:002015-03-03T08:56:59.853-05:00Well, at my parish, which has completely gone in t...Well, at my parish, which has completely gone in the direction of standing, hand communion, and "quick mass" also doesn't allow communion veils. They are too "traditional". So, remember, that a veil, is a traditional, garment and if this schism continues, may be outlawed by the laity at all parishes.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-81092127132126036712013-11-18T05:44:08.869-05:002013-11-18T05:44:08.869-05:00To very devout Roman Catholics this may already be...To very devout Roman Catholics this may already be a very big deal but in my own opinion, it is not as important as acknowledging and accepting Jesus Christ in your life and allowing Him to lead you to salvation. I am also a Roman Catholic and this is what I live by. :)<br />- <a href="http://laceandgraceveils.com/" rel="nofollow">LaceAndGraceVeils.com</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09669105640597560856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-70360582240183861292012-04-22T11:22:33.478-04:002012-04-22T11:22:33.478-04:00Since this this sudden change in the Sacred Liturg...Since this this sudden change in the Sacred Liturgy was introduced by some on the pretext of unity it behooves us to examine what Holy Mother Church has traditionally taught about unity. The following Father of the Church offers some words of encouragement and warning. <br /><br /> “So the Holy Spirit came in a dove. It is a simple and happy animal, not bitter with gall, not cruel with its bites, not violent with lacerating claws; it loves the hospitalities of men; when they give birth they bring forth their offspring together; when they go and come they cling together; they spend their lives in mutual intercourse; they recognize the concord of peace by the kiss of the beak; they fulfill the law of unanimity in all things. This is the simplicity which ought to be known in the Church; this the charity to be attained, that the love of the brethren imitate the doves, that their gentleness and tenderness equal that of the lambs and the sheep. What is the savagery of wolves doing in the breast of a Christian, and the madness of dogs and the lethal poison of snakes and the bloody cruelties of beasts? Congratulations are due, when such as these are separated from the Church, lest they prey upon the doves and sheep with their cruel and venomous contagion. Bitterness cannot cling and join with sweetness, darkness with light, rains with clear water, fighting with peace, sterility with fecundity, drought with running waters, storm with calm. Let no one think that the good can depart from the Church; the wind does not ravage the wheat, nor does the storm overturn the tree strongly and solidly rooted; the light straws are tossed about by the tempest; the feeble trees are thrown down by the onrush of the whirlwind. The Apostle Paul execrates and strikes at these, when he says: 'They have gone forth from us, but they were not of us. For if they had been of us, they would have continued with us.' ” St. Cyprian of Carthage, “De Unitatis, The Unity of the Catholic Church”, no.9Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-91230174092573501352012-04-17T15:31:37.426-04:002012-04-17T15:31:37.426-04:00Blessed John Paul II has a few timely words for us...Blessed John Paul II has a few timely words for us which are relevant in consideration of the professional liturgists and clergy who are forever shifting the focus of the faithful away from the substantial and exalted presence, par excellence, of Our Lord in the Eucharist. The following is from Redemptoris hominis:<br /><br />"Indeed, the Eucharist is the ineffable sacrament!...With all the greater reason, then, it is not permissible for us, in thought, life or action, to take away from this truly most holy sacrament its full magnitude and its essential meaning. It is at one and the same time a sacrifice-sacrament, a communion-sacrament, and a presence-sacrament. And, although it is true that the Eucharist always was and must continue to be the most profound revelation of the human brotherhood of Christ's disciples and confessors, it cannot be treated merely as an “occasion” for manifesting this brotherhood."<br /><br />There is the crux of the problem, the incongruous demand that communicants remain standing supposedly because private prayer on one's knees neglects the presence of the Christ in the community. There is something seriously wrong with a church which has identified private prayer as a problem and discourages it. A Catholic can do both, pray individually and as part of the community. It is not an "either-or" situation but a "both-and" one. <br /><br />Awe and reverence which was once a hallmark of Catholic worship has been lost wherever the assembly has been over-emphasized. Standing is the wrong direction. The faithful, especially the distracted, confused and poorly catechized faithful, belong on their knees so that they will have a physical reminder that during the Sacred Liturgy they are participating in a most solemn event: the Paschal Mystery.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-59289420117708708472012-04-12T13:31:01.765-04:002012-04-12T13:31:01.765-04:00His Excellency Archbishop Pedro Lopez Quintana, Ap...His Excellency Archbishop Pedro Lopez Quintana, Apostolic Nuncio to Canada,<br />724 Manor Avenue, Ottawa, Ontario, K1M 0E3; fax: 613-746-4786<br /><br />The proper thing to do is to start with the bishop. You have a right as a Catholic to express your concerns politely and with respect. More than a right it is a duty to make known to your bishop how uncomfortable you are. Otherwise he will assume everyone loves this change in posture. Silence speaks volumes.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-36328310565889564032012-04-10T23:34:58.415-04:002012-04-10T23:34:58.415-04:00Thanks Vox for your suggestion. By the way what is...Thanks Vox for your suggestion. By the way what is the address to the Nuncio in Ottawa and I can complain to Him about our bishop and can he do something? Or am I to do what the bishop says though I feel very uncomfortable. The priest said at Easter mass that the bishop has changed the posture of communion. I don't like to be put in this position but I rather obey Jesus than this priest or bishop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-75230847078492668362012-04-10T07:59:43.020-04:002012-04-10T07:59:43.020-04:00Dear Anonymous,
It is sad that they are doing thi...Dear Anonymous,<br /><br />It is sad that they are doing this and that the priest would be sarcastic about it.<br /><br />I would write a polite but firm letter and include a print out of the dubium above and this blog post, if you like.<br /><br />You should also write to the Papal Nuncio in Ottawa and copy Bishop Henry.Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-12202799750308601322012-04-08T23:12:04.107-04:002012-04-08T23:12:04.107-04:00I went to church today in Calgary and I felt quite...I went to church today in Calgary and I felt quite angry the priest reminded everyone that the posture for communion is standing. By the way he also mentioned that some have grumbled about this, gee I wonder why?<br />I am very upset with the priest and of course I knelt but felt very uncomfortable and afterwards felt angry.So now I am going to write to our priest telling him of this lack of respect for those who wish to kneel and sorry I cannot follow this stupid posture that works better for protestants. Any suggestions? I also plan to write to the Bishop. I felt very insulted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-21059958866528503062012-03-31T14:24:50.127-04:002012-03-31T14:24:50.127-04:00"Conferences may determine, according to the ..."Conferences may determine, according to the procedure given below, whether the introduction into the liturgy of elements borrowed from the social and religious rites of a people, and which form a living part of their culture, will enrich their understanding of liturgical actions without producing negative effects on their faith and piety. They will always be careful to avoid the danger of introducing elements that might appear to the faithful as the return to a period before evangelization.<br /><br />In any case, if changes in rites or texts are judged to be necessary, they must be harmonized with the rest of the liturgical life and, before being put into practice, still more before being made mandatory, they should first be presented to the clergy and then to the faithful in such a way as to avoid the danger of troubling them without good reason."(Cardinal Ortas, prefect for the C.D.W. No 32. Fourth Instruction for the Right Application of the Conciliar Document on the Liturgy, 1994) <br /><br />Again, this change in posture was made mandatory before the preliminary conditions were met. It is pretty clear no effort was made to "avoid the danger of troubling" the faithful "without good reason." When folks received this mandate to remain standing it was without preparation or notice. As yet, no liturgist or bishop has produced proof that this change in posture was done by necessity. As for negative effects, people are still angry, confused and a few are ready to leave the Church because they feel their trust has been violated. Attendance of the Sunday Liturgy is down to 14% in this diocese from 80%. Can the bishop afford to be so indifferent to the pastoral needs of the flock entrusted to his care? Is the cost of losing more souls really worth it?Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-71349632853645257312012-03-24T20:59:29.769-04:002012-03-24T20:59:29.769-04:00I respectfully submit that Bishop Fabbro is out of...I respectfully submit that Bishop Fabbro is out of step with the mind of Holy Mother Church if he is basing his radical shift in posture on the basis of the constitution of the Sacred Liturgy,(S.C.no.21) What proof does he have that kneeling after reception of the Eucharist has "suffered from the intrusion of anything out of harmony with the inner nature of the liturgy?" The Sacred Congregation of Divine Worship has defended the rights of the faithful to kneel notwithstanding the misinterpretation of article 43 of the GIRM. If kneeling was identified as a laudable practice to be retained in this same article one cannot believe kneeling has "become less suitable" either.<br /><br />I would urge the faithful to read the Apostolic Letter of Blessed John Paul II written twenty-five years after Sacrosanctum Concilium in Dec. 1988. It is called Vicesimus Quintas Annus. Bl.J.P. shared the same enthusiasm as Bishop Fabbro but he did have some cautionary notes which are pertinent to our efforts so that we can amicably and quickly resolve this impasse.<br /><br />"There remains the considerable task of continuing to implant the Liturgy in certain cultures, welcoming from them those expressions which are compatible with aspects of ~the true and authentic spirit of the Liturgy,~ in respect for the ~substantial unity of the Roman Rite..." Anyone familiar with papal writings knows very well kneeling is a posture of adoration and intrinsic to authentic worship to God.<br /><br />"The adaptation must take account of the fact that in the liturgy, and notably that of the sacraments, there is a ~part which is unchangeable~ because it is of divine institution, and of which the Church is the guardian. There are also ~parts open to change~, which the Church has the power and on occasion also the duty to adapt to the cultures of recently evangelized peoples. (S.C. no.21)" Southwestern Ontario cannot seriously be called "recently evangelized."<br /><br />"Cultural adaptation also requires conversion of heart and even, where necessary, a breaking with ancestral customs incompatible with the Catholic faith." There is nothing incompatible with the Catholic faith in kneeling. Kneeling is itself an act of faith so much so that no other sign of reverence is required.<br /><br />"This demands a serious formation in theology, history and culture' as well as sound judgement in discerning what is necessary or useful and what is not useful or even dangerous to faith." Who could possibly think kneeling is "dangerous" to the faith? <br /><br />What is dangerous to the faith and unity is making unnecessary radical changes within the Sacred Liturgy; causing great disturbance within the assembly of God's people. <br /><br />"Adoration is the first attitude of man acknowledging that he is a creature before his Creator. It exalts the greatness of the Lord who made us (Psalm 95) and the almighty power of the Savior who sets us free from evil. Adoration is homage of the spirit to the "King of Glory," (Psalm 24) respectful silence in the presence of the "ever greater" God. (St. Augustine) Adoration of the thrice-holy and sovereign God of love blends with humility and gives assurance to our supplications." Catechism no. 2628<br /><br />Conclusion: The faithful who remain on their knees stand on solid ground: the rock who is Peter.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-18332176953491896662012-03-23T12:13:09.192-04:002012-03-23T12:13:09.192-04:00The newspaper of the Diocese of London, winter 201...The newspaper of the Diocese of London, winter 2011 edition, is available in portable document format online at their website under media tab. The entire paper is dedicated to the Catholic Mass GIRM v.3. Bishop Fabbro on the front page wrote an article, "The Mass: Why the Change?:<br /><br />"It is almost 50 years since the Second Vatican Council mandated a reform of the liturgy. In the document on the liturgy, the Council Fathers stated:<br /><br />For the liturgy is made up of unchangeable elements divinely instituted, and of elements subject to change. These latter not only may be changed but ought to be changed with the passage of time, if they have suffered from the intrusion of anything out of harmony with the inner nature of the liturgy or have become less suitable. In this restoration both texts and rites should be drawn up so as to express more clearly the holy things which they signify (Constitution of the Sacred Liturgy, 21)<br /><br />This is the link:<br />http://wp.dol.ca/webportal/uploads/NDL2011-04Winter.pdf<br /><br />By the way, many of the people are standing because their pastors to whom they have complained have told them to take it to the Pope; he mandated this shift in posture.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-8759221865736173872012-03-21T11:37:04.455-04:002012-03-21T11:37:04.455-04:00“This sequence- standing throughout the Communion ...“This sequence- standing throughout the Communion Procession and sitting or kneeling after the last person has received - may take time to appreciate. It can take time to reprogram our bodies, minds, and hearts. It can take time until a sequence that is distracting by its unfamiliarity becomes comfortably familiar.”- “Concerning the Communion Procession” Simone Brosig, Office of Liturgy, Calgary, Alberta<br /><br />Kneeling is a ritual act, meaning it is a customary practice of the faithful to kneel and has been a sound tradition for nearly a millennium in the Latin Rite. As such, it should be retained. Even so, it is not a bad habit or a mindless action that needs “reprogramming” for it too is a “powerful sign.” Kneeling is still a universal gesture of reverence to our saving God. No one has ever established kneeling is incompatible with praise and thanksgiving. The unfortunate reference to kneeling as a mere “impulse,” as this article asserted, negates the significance of this action. What did the instruction Redemptionis Sacramentum, from the Sacred Congregation of Divine Worship, say? “Let all Christ's faithful participate in the Most Holy Eucharist as fully, consciously and actively as they can, honoring it lovingly by their devotion.” <br /><br />What manner of assumptions do we have when liturgists instruct the faithful to act as a “liturgical unit” during the Communion Procession; to ignore what they are “accustomed” to; to delay “private” prayers; all in favor of respecting a fabricated “sequence?” Bishops and liturgists acknowledge this change is “distracting by its unfamiliarity” or a “major shift” in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy is quite clear, “there must be no innovations unless the good of the Church genuinely and certainly requires them.” <br /><br />What proof is offered that the faithful on their knees are not “active” and participating “fully?” Catholics on their knees honor the Most Holy Eucharist “lovingly by their devotion.” <br /><br /> “Is it not held today that man adores God with all his being? This means with his soul and body....If to bless means to adore, blessing and adoration are documented in Scripture by prostration and the physical bending of the knee and, metaphysically, of the heart. Only the devil does not kneel, because -say the desert Fathers- he does not have knees.” ~ “The Liturgy, Work of the Trinity: God the Father” (CCC 1077-1083), Fr. Nicola Bux, Professor of Eastern Liturgy and Consultor of the Congregations for the Doctrine of the Faith, for the Causes of Saints, for Divine Worship and Discipline of the Sacraments, as well as for the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff.<br /><br />A final reflection from the Pope, written in “The Spirit of the Liturgy” when he was still a cardinal.<br /><br /> "It may well be that kneeling is alien to modern culture–insofar as it is a culture, for this culture has turned away from the faith and no longer knows the One before whom kneeling is the right, indeed the intrinsically necessary gesture. The man who learns to believe learns also to kneel, and a faith or a liturgy no longer familiar with kneeling would be sick at the core. Where it has been lost, kneeling must be rediscovered, so that, in our prayer, we remain in fellowship with the apostles and martyrs, in fellowship with the whole cosmos, indeed in union with Jesus Christ Himself. " Pope Benedict XVI, “The Spirit of the Liturgy”Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-16563975210898110592012-03-21T08:12:55.252-04:002012-03-21T08:12:55.252-04:00Correction: Redemptionis Sacramentum was released ...Correction: Redemptionis Sacramentum was released in 2004, not 2012.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-12904416065867344752012-03-20T20:22:24.417-04:002012-03-20T20:22:24.417-04:00I have been rereading the instruction, Redemptioni...I have been rereading the instruction, Redemptionis Sacramentum, mandated by Blessed John Paul II and released March 25, 2012, by the prefect for the Congregation for the Divine Liturgy, Card. Arinze. The closing words are worthwhile reflecting on, particularly in light of the bishops of Canada who remain unmoved, by the pleas for mercy from their flocks, requesting that they rescind this profound adaption to the tradition of kneeling immediately following reception of Holy Communion. <br /><br />"Let all Christ's faithful participate in the Most Holy Eucharist as fully, consciously and actively as they can, honoring it lovingly by their devotion and the manner of their life. Let Bishops...in the exercise of the sacred ministry, examine their consciences as regards the authenticity and fidelity of the actions they have performed in the name of Jesus Christ and His Church in the celebration of the Sacred Liturgy. Let each one of the sacred ministers ask himself, even with severity, whether he has respected the rights of the lay members of Christ's faithful, who confidently entrust themselves and their children to him, relying on him to fulfill for the faithful those sacred functions that the Church intends to carry out in celebrating the sacred Liturgy at Christ's command. For each one should always remember that he is a servant of the Sacred Liturgy."<br /><br />"Servant of the Sacred Liturgy" Does a servant undermine the Master? Let's face it; it is incredible that fervent Catholics, seeking to adore their Redeemer in silence,on their knees, should be interfered with. The audacity of anyone seeking to come between the bride and her bridegroom is astounding, particularly regrettable that it should be from one who should have a deeper insight into the mystical nature of this union.To suggest these communicants lack a "proper theology" shows a lack of respect for the whole procession of saints, angels, patriarchs, prophets and ancestors who have knelt to worship God from time immemorial. After years of creativity, including pastors delivering homilies in clown costumes, sanctuaries decked with balloons and barely clad liturgical dancers, one wonders the legitimacy of such posturing. Should Jesus come again to cleanse the Temple of His Father with a whip, one has serious doubt it will be to chastise members of the congregation found kneeling and attempting to pray despite all the diversionary tactics liturgical activists have imposed. <br /><br />"However the Priest will remember that he is the servant of the Sacred Liturgy and that he himself is not permitted, on his own initiative, to add, to remove, or to change anything in the celebration of the Mass.” GIRM no.24- (Vatican II, Constitution of the Sacred Liturgy, Sacrosanctum Concilium, no. 22)Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-73819737067360925432012-03-13T10:32:58.291-04:002012-03-13T10:32:58.291-04:00"“When a man feels proud of himself, he stan..."“When a man feels proud of himself, he stands erect, draws himself to his full height, throws back his head and shoulders and says with every part of his body, I am bigger and more important than you. But when he is humble he feels his littleness, and lowers his head and shrinks into himself. He abases himself. And the greater the presence in which he stands the more deeply he abases himself; the smaller he becomes in his own eyes...<br /><br />One has no need to be told that God's presence is not the place in which to stand on one's dignity. To appear less presumptuous, to be as little and low as we feel, we sink to our knees and thus sacrifice half our height; and to satisfy our hearts still further we bow down our heads, and our diminished stature speaks to God and says, Thou art the great God; I am nothing."<br />~Sacred Signs by Romano GuardiniElizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-81460044829499133002012-03-07T17:29:16.524-05:002012-03-07T17:29:16.524-05:00Jesus "flesh was also signified by the manna....Jesus "flesh was also signified by the manna. “Manna” means “What is this?” because when the Jews saw it they wondered, and asked each other what it was. But nothing is more a source of wonder than the Son of God made man, so that everyone can fittingly ask, “What is this?” That is, how can the Son of God be the Son of Man? How can Christ be one person with two natures? “His name will be called Wonderful” (Is 9:6). It is also a cause for wonder how Christ can be present in the sacrament." St. Thomas Aquinas on the Most Blessed Eucharist<br /><br />As this supreme and most excellent sacrament is indeed "a cause for wonder," all the more reason to approach Our Lord in humility and immediately afterward to kneel in profound silence and adoration. John 6:32-33Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-52315529772022881682012-03-07T12:35:18.362-05:002012-03-07T12:35:18.362-05:00"Now in this sacrament the Word is present no..."Now in this sacrament the Word is present not only in his divinity, but also in the reality of His flesh; and so He is the cause of the resurrection not just of souls, but of bodies as well: “For as death came through a man, so the resurrection of the dead has come through a man” (1 Cor 15:21). It is now clear how profitable it is to take this sacrament."St. Thomas Aquinas on the Most Blessed Sacrament of the EucharistElizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-18247796185720080792012-03-06T12:08:42.348-05:002012-03-06T12:08:42.348-05:00"It can take time to reprogram our bodies, mi..."It can take time to reprogram our bodies, minds, and hearts. It can take time until a sequence that is distracting by its unfamiliarity becomes comfortably familiar." Simone Brosig, Office of Liturgy, Diocese of Calgary,Al. "Concerning the Communion Procession"<br /><br />Contrast the arrogance of the above statement which presumes to "reprogram" the Mystical Body of Christ who have come to worship, like a software program in need of 'reprogramming.' One is aghast by the boldness of such language which inevitably reminds one of the ideologues from the last century who were also bent upon 'reprograming' people's "minds": in re-education camps. Even so, compare the ugliness of our contemporary culture with the beauty of this prayer from St. Thomas of Aquinas. <br /><br />"Oh Godhead hid, devoutly I adore Thee, Who truly art within the forms before me; To Thee MY HEART I BOW WITH BENDED KNEE..."Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-42906162577279663872012-03-05T11:37:41.303-05:002012-03-05T11:37:41.303-05:00Contrast and compare the following:
"To fall...Contrast and compare the following:<br /><br />"To fall into private prayer while the Communion Procession continues...reduces Christ's presence to objectification of the host." Archdiocese of Calgary,Alberta, Office of Liturgy, Simone Brosig, PhD.<br /><br />"From whence should we start, as the source, to recover and reaffirm the primacy of God? From the Eucharist: Jesus, the last and definitive Word of God becomes flesh, comes to meet us as Person." Pope Benedict XVI, Italian Eucharistic Congress, Sept.11, 2011<br /><br />Conclusion: the difference between these two is that one is teaching about a thing, an "object" whereas our pope is talking about the Person of Christ who has come to feed His flock the "total gift that He makes of Himself."Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-41039939411181246972012-03-05T11:17:02.007-05:002012-03-05T11:17:02.007-05:00I wish to provide a link to an article written by ...I wish to provide a link to an article written by Colin Donovan explaining the difference between the "True Presence or Real Presence." It is important for Catholics to use correct expressions when speaking about Christ's presence in the Blessed Sacrament as there are many who seek to disorient the laity. Thankfully, it is brief. http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/true_presence.htmElizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-37945271449358188352012-03-04T13:52:38.677-05:002012-03-04T13:52:38.677-05:00Well, I have a letter too from the Apostolic Nunci...Well, I have a letter too from the Apostolic Nuncio, Cardinal Pedro Lopez Quintana with the same reasoning we are all familiar with from the Congregation for Divine Worship. This didn't impress everyone to whom I showed it but it did encourage the faithful who felt "kicked in the stomach" when this whole business began so abruptly last November. As far as the "unimpressed" individuals are concerned what counts to them is the authority of the local bishop. <br /><br />Maybe someone needs to explain why this statement from the Vatican is significant in the first place and what authority does the Apostolic Nuncio of Canada have? After all, it is not like the bishops who initiated this latest rupture from our historical past, were ignorant of the controversy in the States back in 2003. It does suggest that the attitude of resisting authority stems, not from the Catholics who love Pope Benedict and JPII before him, but from a power struggle to win the hearts and minds of the faithful in Canada to "the Church in America." Yes, that is a direct quote from a dissident priest, who dared to preach this one Sunday to his parish about ten years ago. In a confrontation after Mass, this priest did not back down or apologize one iota for his homily. As far as he was concerned, the pope was just an old man and a senile one at that. This priest played with me like the cat who had caught the mouse and berated me for walking out in the middle of his "sermon" and refusing to partake of the communion with "the community." He repeated that several times. That's right, this parish priest who had openly preached rebellion accused me of breaking "communion." He felt so confident he would not be corrected by his bishop that he defied the parishioners in the preamble to his sermon to write to the bishop and complain if we dared. Apparently, he had spent his Saturday evening, answering the phone from upset Catholics who had threatened to do just that after his Saturday Mass. Did I write and complain. Yes. Did the bishop defend his priest. Yes. Was any action taken? No. All this to say, Catholics sitting in the pews, have good cause to be suspicious of anyone telling them to act against their Catholic sensibilities and conscience.Elizabeth Diannenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-8383028352895497492012-03-03T15:20:26.311-05:002012-03-03T15:20:26.311-05:00Nancy,
I've seen the exact letter and wording...Nancy,<br /><br />I've seen the exact letter and wording you refer to sent to someone in the Diocese of London. THe response sent to me included the original Latin text as shown and the translation is mine.<br /><br />I suppose I translated "mentum" to mean "mind" though one could more properly, as in the Nuncio's case, use "reason" and I will defer to him. Though in my own defense, one does "reason" with one's mind. Perhaps I was being to literal...you know, "What does the translation really say?"<br /><br />As for the bells, they are a custom which the GIRM considers laudable to retain at certain places in the Novus Ordo. They are not required.<br /><br />That being said...Vox Cantorishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16987049370515084083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20981956.post-70468298214435105752012-03-02T21:49:35.731-05:002012-03-02T21:49:35.731-05:00we also received a letter from the Nuncio, dated J...we also received a letter from the Nuncio, dated January 25th, similar to yours, we are in the Prince Albert Diocese, Sask. but right after: "negative, et ad mentem" was written (no, for this reason) , So ad mentem means "for this reason" and not " in our minds." It's just a detail but worth mentioning. And also, our little consecration bells have been suppressed,except for Christmas and Easter, is this happening just for us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com