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Monday, 5 December 2016

See how mad they be?

See how mad they be? And I mean mad in both the meanings of angry and deranged.  

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Go back to Hell, Satan!
Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Bergoglio, Spadaro, Martin, Rosica know it, and th...": 
You probably won't post this but you will read it. Actually, it's you and your ilk that are done. When the Holy Father finally ex-communicates the right wing dissenters you will be no more influential than the literally dozens of sedevacantist and independent "Catholics". Yes, you'll have your little chapels with maybe 50 or so adherents. You'll have schism after schism as you decide issues like whether or not to allow the Novus Ordo in your chapels. In the end, you'll be as relevant as the CMRI of SSPV or Pope Michael is today. 
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Posted by Anonymous to Vox Cantoris at 8:58 am, December 05, 2016 
Not only friend, have I published your cowardly little rant, I've given you your own post of it.

I'll leave it to my readers to respond to your bile.


49 comments:

Anonymous said...

I actually laughed out loud at this person's delusion. Yeah, keep telling yourself that buddy. You and Satan may have your way right now with this Pope, but a holy Pope is coming sooner or later, and "you and your ilk" will be the ones excommunicated. What will you say then?
You'll be as relevant as the Episcopalians.

Ben.quivenit@gmail.com said...

Father Tom, is that you?

TF said...

I'm pretty sure the Arians thought the same thing about Athanasius.

cassius dio said...

Sir,

In the name of Jesus, I bind you spirit of Hate and send you to the foot of the Cross to be judged.

Cassius Dio

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Anonymous, DO say, does the following apply to the Humbleness the current celebrity Pope, and YOUR ilk?


“And you will be hated by everyone because of my name, but whoever will endure until the end, he will be saved.”

Are you, the winning side, hated by everyone or anyone at all? The "right wing dissenters" attempt to kindly engage you via dubia, rather than caricature, vilify, marginalize and demote/punish you. If so, offer an explanation, why you think it IS so.

I think that no one hates you. Even Lucifer loves you, as much as you are his useful tool in the creation of peace, security and justice for all.

So, in the spirit of love, inclusion and mercy, you will now encounter and dialogue...

I am holding my breath, starting now... You won't let me wait too long.

Anonymous said...

To quote Bugs Bunny: "What a maroon!"

Anonymous said...

Father Spadaro, is that you?

Anonymous said...

"When the Holy Father finally ex-communicates the right wing dissenters."

This either imposible unless the Holy? Father exposes himself as deranged. In his church ALL are welcome: homosexuals, divorced an remarried a thousand times, lutherans, even muslims...so right wing catholics cannot be excommunicated or he'll show his openness is not such.

Either he contradicts himself by leaving people out in the peripheries, or he exposes himself as a communist no better than Castro, Maduro, or a vindictive Vito Corleone, eliminating whoever dislikes HIM (not Christ).

M.

Anonymous said...

Relevant to Whom? Catholics [as opposed to N.O. Pharisees, Zealots,floggers of dead horses (scribes), Herodians and Sadducees] are preparing for the 2nd coming when Christ will return to be our judge by looking back and preparing for the incarnation and birth of Christ in a stable because there was no room for him in the Jewish Religion. When He died crucified by the leaders of the pagan world at the instigation of the High Priest Caiaphas and all the self-called faithful Jews, he had about 100 followers. As Jesus asked (and you should ask yourself), "I say to you, that He will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? "


"For God hath given into their hearts to do that which pleaseth Him: that they give their kingdom to the beast, till the words of God be fulfilled."

Oakes Spalding said...

I think it's perfectly possible that that commenter might be partly "right", at least for a time (although I obviously hope he's not). After all, the Arians appeared to be in the ascendent temporarily. But right or not, he speaks as a vicious thug, not as a Catholic. The truth is independent of bullying or of numbers. Perhaps he would have taunted those about to die as martyrs-"see, you lost!"

Anonymous said...

Cardinal "Superfreak" Kasper, is that you?

Anonymous said...

Dorota, I'm happy to dialogue with you.
Anon@12:39, this is simply incorrect. This Pope has excommunicated left wing dissenters already. Did you know that?

peasant said...

from the prophecy of St. Francis of Assisi
At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.
No successor of Peter can half resign the papacy. Since a half resignation of the papacy is invalid Bendict XVI reigns as Pope in full. Any conclave to elect a "new pope" while the Pope yet lives and reigns is invalid.

Every one that cometh to me, and heareth my words, and doth them, I will shew you to whom he is like. [48] He is like to a man building a house, who digged deep, and laid the foundation upon a rock. And when a flood came, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and it could not shake it; for it was founded on a rock. [49] But he that heareth, and doth not, is like to a man building his house upon the earth without a foundation: against which the stream beat vehemently, and immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great.

Peter is the rock. The house is the Catholic Church. If the rock is cracked into two or more pieces the foundation is made weak and the house falls.

Anonymous said...

When the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart begins next year -- then everyone will have to make a choice -- already, those seeking to stay close to the true teachings of the Church see this -- but this divide will continue. We already know we are on the team that wins - because, even though we are imperfect, we are standing on the side of Christ and 2000 years of teaching Tradition.
Satan is in his final moments - his last battle. As St Lucia told Cardinal Caffara - the final battle satan will undertake is regarding marriage and the family. The battle now being fought before our eyes.
Michael Patrick

Anonymous said...

The buildings? You really think we care about the buildings?

If they are not inhabited by Christ, then they are worthless. If, on the other hand, we have Him, then we need nothing more.

Whether I am alone with Christ, or there are a billion people with me is irrelevant. So long as I have Christ, I have everything I could possibly want.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Anonymous 1:15

Are you THE Anonymous I addressed? If so, and if you are happy to dialogue, let's do it. Let me hear your answer to my question.

The Bones said...

What he has said is undoubtedly the plan. Just incremental.

Peter Lamb said...

News for you chum, he's an heretic, he's not a Pope - he can't excommunicate nobody.

Anonymous said...

I am THE anonymous yes. Are you serious in your questions? This Pope is regularly called the tool of Satan by "traditional" Catholics on blogs, twitter and Facebook. He is also hated by the Left due to his staunch opposition to women's ordination, abortion, and gender ideology. If there is any major figure that perfectly describes the one who is "hated for the sake of His name" it is Pope Francis.

c matt said...

The buildings? You really think we care about the buildings?

Seriously. Have you seen what passes for a "Catholic" Church these days?

Like Oakes says, though, in some sense he is accurate. Say PF doesn't answer, the 4 cardinals and whoever joins them go forward with the dubia, etc., then what? How many would go with the 4 Cardinals if they are excommed, how many stay the The Francis? Those who go with the Cardinals would be tough to distinguish from the SSPX. Which raises the obvious question: Was the SSPX right all along?

Stephen Lowe said...

Mark Shea is that you?

CJ said...

Looks like Vox has been visited by a Gerasene demoniac. Sounds like he could use an exorcism. Not to mention an enema.

Maudie N Mandeville said...

Sodomites are the worst kind of haters.

Anonymous said...

Is this Mark Thomas sneaking in again? Please spare us the lecture on how 'orthodox' Francis supposedly is on abortion, etc etc.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

I am glad you responded. Yes, I am very serious. A possibility of eternal damnation, as spoken of by our Lord Jesus Christ many, many times, is a very serious matter to me.

Let us have a conversation then. I ask of you, and expect of myself to focus on serving our Lord, when we talk about His Church.

The very first time I was convinced (though I could have been wrong, and this is where you could convince me otherwise, if able and willing) that Jorge Bergoglio is not a Catholic, because he rejects parts of Catholic teaching, when in an interview with Scalfari he stated, that atheists who do good deeds according to their own definition of the good (I paraphrase) go to heaven. He said it to a person aware of the existence of the Gospel, and aware of its meaning - therefore a person knowingly rejecting Jesus Christ. Then J. Bergoglio proceeded to say that hell in its traditional meaning doesn't exist, that it is simply the dissolution of one's soul. According to this teaching, very different from the teaching of our Lord, there is no eternal suffering, and eternal damnation simply means ceasing to exist.

This pronouncement by J. Bergoglio, who occupies the position of the pope of the Catholic Church, caused me to believe that he will be immediately removed from the Church, as a heretic and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Yet he is much celebrated. He even landed on the first page of a sodomy-celebrating magazine as person of the year.

He is celebrated by and celebrates immoral actors, euthanasia- and population-control supporting scientists, abortion-promoting politicians, he kisses the hands and promotes sodomy-praising priests, encourages Christian women to breed with Muslim invaders of Europe (most of the so called refugees are not refugees at all), which will result in the birth of Muslim children and the islamization of Christian lands.

He is praised and praises ungodly atheistic, murderous communists, and plans to turn his back on persecuted Catholics in China, to play unity and peace with an atheist government.

He called a well-known abortionist in Italy (who brags about murdering thousands of unborn babies a year, with a bicycle pump) one of Italy's best.

The world loves him, the media promote him as a very reasonable, progressive Catholic (as in - moving away from Church teaching and joining the world, which at this point is a new and more extreme version of Sodom and Gomorrah), and the only people who see a problem with this heretic are Catholics (people who believe in Jesus Christ and who accept His Gospel, as well as the entire teaching of the Church).

He even introduces new mortal sins - not recycling, and teaching others the Catholic faith by proclaiming the Gospel with our mouths (he says, unlike our Lord, that we do it only by performing good deeds).

All religious relativists and New Agers welcome this heretic, who while demolishing our faith, likes to see himself as a humble man.

For the first time in Church history, a pope claims that an individual conscience (however malformed) takes priority over objective Law of God.

People sin gravely and without repentance (they even call sin a gift to the Church) with his encouragement, and are told to expect unconditional mercy, contrary to God's commandments, and His will that we follow His Law. They like it.

The only people who consistently reject these heresies are Catholics, called Traditionalists by non-catholic apostates.

Bergoglio is celebrated by the world. There is no evil-doer, whose hand he won't shake, and whom he will not praise.

Anonymous said...

@ Paul Morphy

I am far from being a "right wing dissenter". As Catholics we are required to always seek the truth. It is clear to me that sites such as Vox and OnePeterFive and AKA Catholic, their authors seek to find the truth and they seek to communicate the truth to literally millions of readers. What these sites do is provide a great service to the Church and the faithful.

If there are Catholics who oppose the content of these sites, it is up to them to put their points and the basis of their points based on tradition. If their arguments are compelling and they do not contradict tradition, then they should have no problem justifying their views.

Anonymous said...

Dorota, you should check out what CMRI or SSPV or any number of various other sedevacantist offshoots have to say about previous Popes. I could re-produce your comment almost word for word in many of them writing about Paul VI or John Paul II or Benedict XVI. JPII embraced Fidel Castro, he speculated that Hell might be empty and for the first time in history allowed the schismatic Orthodox to receive communion. The only thing that makes you different from them is that you accept them as popes and previous sedevacantists don't. Not only that, once you accept that you are allowed to judge the Pope you can't stop anyone else from judging the very Popes you accept. It is easy to find on the internet not just sedevacantists that believe the last Pope was Pius XII you can also find those who go back further to Pius X or even Gregory XVI. And believe it or not, there is a group of traditionalist Catholics in New Mexico that believe the last Pope died in 1140!! Imagine that, a papal vacancy of almost 900 years. Literally there is nothing new under the sun.

Anonymous said...

@ Paul Morphy

I'd like to add one more thing.

Instead of judging people by what they say, make judgments on the basis of what people do.

Actions speak far louder than words. We need to watch the pontiff and what he does rather than what he says.

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

Anonymous,

is this your answer to my question?
I believe that you are not addressing any.

Is THIS, what you call dialogue?

I ask again, is contradicting the words and overhauling the commandments of God, is caricaturing God, removing some of His attributes, to highlight one of them (according solely to one's conscience) something that a loving and faithful child and servant of God does?

Answer or this is the end of our exchange. It is not an exchange, only a pointless noise.

Kathleen1031 said...

Anonymous, I must say, you eluded Dorota's main point, this current pope, not former, is idolized by the world. Far from being "hated by the Left" he is adored by the masses. Note his American Tour, where he spoke at the UN and managed to avoid mentioning Jesus Christ once. There are too many reasons to see the man as either a Marxist, Freemason, Atheist, Communist, or Globalist, and certainly, as a man who despises the Catholic faith and faithful Catholics. He clearly is splitting the church. A long list could be written on why this is plainly so, and Dorota has done a fine job of hitting some main points.
No former pope has done what he is doing, or said anything near what he has said and is saying. You agree with him, he is tickling your ears and saying what pleases you, but this will not last. Only if Christ has abandoned His church will this last. You have your day and your reward. Enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

Which holy father he tried to mention the one who worship Luther

Anonymous said...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7cad148b2fde534522d9969f27137342dd159e7931415428b2f3fb29a7756cdd.jpg Is that Fr. Tom Rosica being 'dressed down' in public by His Great Humbleness?

Dorota Mosiewicz-Patalas said...

I showed lack of consistency in my line of reasoning.
I should have pursued the issue of Bergoglio's celebrity. He is loved by the world, and this is the case, because he gives the world, what it wants. Unrepeated sin is now accompanied lovingly, even celebrated, allegedly it means humanity's progress.

Progress toward what? How does practice of sin progress a sinner toward God? Sin separates from God.

Fortunately, Kathleen responded logically and intelligently.

Anonymous said...

Quiz. Which Pope said "May St. John the Baptist protect Islam?"

Anonymous said...

You calling him Pope after his countless blasphemy and mockery against the Catholic tradition ?

Eirene said...

You took the thought headed " Is this Mark Thomas ...." right out of my head Anon @4.19 ! Actually I have long thought that Rosica was the persona behind Mark Thomas!

Eirene said...

Well written Dorota!

Eirene said...

It IS Mark Thomas! You are sprung, mate! Now shove off and let the adults talk! The way to the Kindergarten is off to the left !

TLM said...

Goes to show you how insanely delusional these heretics are! They are really full of hate and venom due to Satan's influence. They are truly DIABOLICAL The entire bunch of them are Satan's 'useful idiots.'

Peter Lamb said...

Eirene, ROFL!

c matt said...

Actions speak far louder than words.

No, no they don't. Not when your job is teaching and preserving the faith - in that situation, your words are your actions. And not when you are professing your faith, because again - your words are your action. It is not what goes into a man that defiles him, but what comes out of his mouth (I recall Someone saying way back when).

Not to mention, Bergo's actions aren't all that hot either.

Peter Lamb said...

When last did you hear a Catholic sermon?

http://mhtseminary.libsyn.com/sermon-making-america-great-again-by-fr-eldracher

Anonymous said...

Pretty sure the owner of this blog can confirm that I am not "Mark Thomas". It's amazing to me what a tiny bubble you people live in. Newsflash! There are way more of us than there are of you. One of these days I'm going to have to go to all the 15 or so of the "trad" blogs/websites and count the number of commentators. My educated guess that it would be under 100 specific individuals in a Church with over a billion adherents.

Anonymous said...

Ok Mark Thomas, once again we're on the subject of Francis, not JPII or anything else you try to deflect to.

Anonymous said...

@ Paul Morphy

These comments are directed to poster c matt.
I do think actions speak louder than words. However I do take your point that given the office that he occupies, the Pope's words are as important as his actions.

I've assumed that his words are empty, and have suggested instead that we now need to watch his actions ie. his (in)action of ignoring the 5 dubia raised by the cardinals, for one example.

Yes watch his words, but watch his actions also!

Anonymous said...

Again you miss the point. Faithful Catholics, and more importantly God Himself, don't care about numbers. There could be just two of us left in the world and we would still be right in opposition to all the heretics and apostates outnumbering us. Those supposed "billion adherents" you speak of are on the wide road to perdition Our Lord warned us of. He specifically said there would be few faithful left loyal to Him compared to all the servants of darkness. I guess we know which side you count yourself on.

Anonymous said...

You might be the Alien whom Bergoglio wanted to Baptize .

Anonymous said...

http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/2917-can-the-church-judge-a-heretical-pope

Peter Lamb said...

Dear Mark II, Why so bashful? Why not state your name and stand up for what you believe?