Wednesday, 1 June 2016

Vatican spokesman Tom Rosica lauds Canada's number one heretic and Vatican II peritus, Greg Baum!

"... you have been for me and continue to be a real model of hope".  



Courtesy of Barona at Toronto Catholic Witness for transcribing these quotes:


"I've certainly admired very much your theology, your writings; but also your love of the Church, your love of Christ, and you help to keep alive - not only the spirit of the Second Vatican Council - but the authentic teaching of the Council".

After a brief discussion of contemporary Catholicism and the rise of a return to orthodoxy, Fr. Rosica commented:

"... many of those who are on the front lines - the crusaders - of the orthodoxy today (I would call it a pseudo-orthodoxy) are among the most unhappy and sad and angry ..."

Developing from the discussion on the point of orthodoxy, Baum said:


"I don't think that we need this enormous unanimity about everything in the Church... I think we are united in the Creed; we're united in the kind of vision that we have of the world, and we work together. But this kind of unanimity - you know - elements, doctrines that are quite removed from the Scriptures - I don't really think this is such a good formula".

As the interview concluded - after having heard Professor Baum speak negatively about unity in the Faith [which is nothing but liberal-protestantism]; after Baum had just stated that the Church teaches doctrines not found in Sacred Scripture [ again, classical protestantism !!], Fr. Rosica addressed Baum thus:

"... you remain a faithful, deeply devoted Catholic; you love Jesus, the Church, the Eucharist".


https://msgrfoy.com/2014/03/23/notes-on-gregory-baum-by-their-fruits-you-shall-know-them-by-monsignor-vincent-foy/

Gregory Baum, convert, Augustinian priest, Vatican II peritus, married, former priest

From Wikipedia:

He was the professor of theology and sociology at University of Saint Michael's College in the University of Toronto and subsequently professor of theological ethics at McGill University's Faculty of Religious Studies. He is currently associated with the Jesuit Centre for Justice and Faith in Montreal.
During the church council Vatican II he was a peritus, or theological advisor, at the Ecumenical Secretariat, the commission responsible for three conciliar documents, On Religious LibertyOn Ecumenism, and On the Church's Relation to Non-Christian Religions.
In particular, he advocated the position, as a response to the Holocaust, of the rabbi and philosopher Emil Fackenheim regarding the cessation of efforts to convert the Jews, famously stating: "After Auschwitz the Christian churches no longer wish to convert the Jews. While they may not be sure of the theological grounds that dispense them from this mission, the churches have become aware that asking the Jews to become Christians is a spiritual way of blotting them out of existence and thus only reinforces the effects of the Holocaust."[3] He composed the first draft of the conciliar document Nostra aetate, the Declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-Christian Religions, that was later expanded to address all the world religions. It was promulgated by Pope Paul VI on October 28, 1965.
From 1962 to 2004, he was the editor of The Ecumenist, a review of theology, culture and society, which is now published by Novalis. He was also a member and frequent editor of the international Catholic review Concilium.
In 2012 he signed the Catholic Scholars' Jubilee Declaration on reform of authority in the Catholic Church.[4]
After retirement, Baum developed an interest in Islam, especially the work of Tariq Ramadan, the European reformer, whom he admired greatly.


4 comments:

Eugene said...

Vox, why are you rehashing this? It was bad enough to read about it when it actually happened?

Karl Rahner Jr. said...

Isn't this old news?

Vox Cantoris said...

Yes, Karl, it is old news, but not to all. It shows a pattern that many people are unaware of. In fact, look at Baum's Nostra Aetate work and then read Cardinal Koch's comment about not converting Jews.

Baum's evil work continues in another generation. No Churchman, not even our friend Father Rosica, should be unaccountable for promoting this rot.

Anonymous said...

"...the most unhappy, sad and angry." No shit, Tom, thanks to you and those like you. I've always believed in hell, but until the ascension of Pope Francis, I'd never given any consideration to its apparent vastness.