"ADVENT EMBER SATURDAY" Traditional Latin Mass in the Archdiocese of Toronto

Thursday, 28 April 2016

Who was Cardinal McCarrick's friend and what was the role of Freemasonry in the election of Jorge Bergoglio?

Theodore Cardinal McCarrick, former Archbishop of Washington during a talk at Villanova University gave the following recollection of a conversation with an "influential" Roman during the period before the Conclave which elected Jorge Bergoglio as Bishop of Rome.

18:20 Just before we went into the general conversations when everybody can talk, a very interesting and influential Italian gentleman came to ask if he could come and see me, so I said “sure.”
He came to see me at the Seminary, at the American College where I was staying; and we sat down. He is a very brilliant man, a very influential man in Rome and we talked about a number of things. He had a favour to ask me when I get back to the United States, but then he asked,
What about Bergoglio?”
I was surprised at the question, I said, “what about him.”
He said, “Does he have a chance?”
I said, “I don’t think so, because no one has mentioned his name, he hasn’t been in anybody’s mind, I don’t think it’s on anybody’s mind to vote for him.”
He said, “He could do it you know.”
I said, “What could he do?”
He said, “He could reform the Church, if we gave him five years, he could put us back on target. “
“Well, he’s 76.”
“Yeah, in five years, if he had five years. The Lord working through Bergoglio in five years could make the Church over again.”
I said, “That’s an interesting thing.”
“I know you’re his friend.”
“Well, I hope I’m his friend.”
He said, Talk him up.
That was the first that I heard from people that Bergoglio would be a possibility in this election.
(...)
I hope that the new, that the one who is elected Pope, will be someone who, if he is not himself a Latin American, would at least have a very strong interest in Latin America”. “Was that part of it? Who knows?  What is it my friend said? “Push Bergoglio”?  Did he say it to a lot of people? I don’t know.”



Consider this then.


Gustavo Raffi, Grand Master of the Grand Orient of Italy

"With the election of Pope Francis nothing will ever be the same again. With Pope Francis, nothing will be more as it was before. It is a clear choice of fraternity for a Church of dialogue, which is not contaminated by the logic and temptations of temporal power"
“A man of the poor far away from the Curia. Fraternity and the desire to dialogue were his first concrete words. Perhaps nothing in the Church will be as it was before. Our hope is that the pontificate of Francis, the Pope who 'comes from the end of the world' can mark the return to the Church-Word instead of the Church-Institution, promoting an open dialogue with the contemporary world, with believers and non-believers, following the springtime of Vatican II."
"The Jesuit who is close to the least ones of history," Raffi continues, "has the great opportunity to show the world the face of a Church that must recover the announcement of a new humanity, not the weight of an institution that closes itself off in defense of its own privileges. Bergoglio knows real life and will remember the lesson of one of his favorite theologians, Romano Guardini, for whom the truth of love cannot be stopped.
"The simple cross he wore on his white cassock," concludes the Grand Master of Palazzo Giustiniani, "lets us hope that a Church of the people will re-discover its capacity to dialogue with all men of good will and with Freemasonry, which, as the experience of Latin America teaches us, works for the good and progress of humanity, as shown by Bolivar, Allende and José Martí, to name only a few. This is the 'white smoke' that we expect from the Church of our times."  

Pope Francis on "dialogue"

"Dialogue, dialogue, dialogue!" This, he said, is the only way for individuals, families and societies to grow. He said fraternal relations between people and cooperation in building a more just society are not some vague utopia but the fruit of a concerted effort on the part of all, in service of the common good.


Pope to U.S. bishops: be shepherds in unity and dialogue


Pope at Mass: Those who do not dialogue disobey God


Pope's general prayer intention for November is for dialogue


Pope  Francis calls for solidarity and dialogue


Pope Francis Congressional Address: A Dialogue with Four Faces of America (13 times)


Pope Francis to Japanese students: 'Dialogue is what brings peace'
The whole video can be seen here.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/George.F.Dillon/Grand.Orient.Freemasonry.Unmasked.pdf

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

BillyHW said...

The music is broken again.

Brian said...

Vox

This word "dialogue" was used, in magisterial documents, for the first time, at Vatican II. Conciliar dialogue amounts to endless numbing discussionism, and, in the case, of Bergoglio and company, it becomes a smoke screen legenda, to embed even further, the neo-modernist agenda, that triumphed at Vatican II. Romano Amerio, in Iota Unum, informs us that this modern "dialogue" lacks that crucial principle of logic,"anagke stenai" (literally, it is necessary to take a stand), which is essential for intelligent debate and reaching some resolution. Without this principle there really is just chaos and reams and reams of emotive jargon. Welcome to conciliar "Catholicism".

In Mystici Corporis (1943), Pius XII, reminds us, what is necessary, to be a Catholic in the full sense. First, obviously, one must be baptized. Second, one must have Catholic faith. Third, one must have due submission to magisterial authority. Francis, simply, doesn't pass this Catholic smell test. He is a theological Catholic, baptized, and nothing more. Elsewhere, in blogdom, I don't remember where , a writer (Douhat?), brought up the familiar rhetorical question: "Is the Pope Catholic?". Well, in the case, of Bergoglio, that question is no longer rhetorical.

Who, among the bishops, will publicly and loudly rebuke Francis? What was needed, at that recent synod, was a statement, or declaration defending, with utmost clarity, Catholic marriage, by those bishops, who remain Catholic. Didn't happen did it? But, come to think about it, there was one outstanding episcopal statement, in defense of marriage and the family. Who was the bishop who made that lucid declaration? He was not present at the synod, though. Oh yes, I remember now, Bishop Bernard Fellay.

Lord, deliver us, from the negligence, of the bishops.

Greg J Ben said...

Vox,

Let me give you, and your readers, the real intentions of the men who are running the Catholic Church. Please, forget about conspiracy theories, internal plots by some esoteric groups or whatever.

In a nutshell, the following summarizes what many long articles and books fail to say:

===========================================================

I - Jesus Christ's Commandments:

- Preach
- Convert

II - Jesus Christ's Demands:

- Believe
- Repent

III - Jesus Christ's Promises:

- Fair Judgment, resulting in either:
- Grace and Mercy (Eternal Life), or
- Condemnation and Eternal Damnation (Hell)

IV - Vatican Deceitful/Announced Intentions:

- Mercy (accompanying - welcoming - listening - never make people feel guilty, sinners or excommunicated - rare no mention of hell or judgment)

- Utopia (kumbaya - mother earth - social justice - globalism - a church for all - heaven on earth)

V - Vatican's Real Intentions:

- Filling the Pews
- Asking for Money
- Getting richer

VI - What People Should Do in Return for the Vatican's Mercy:

- Fill the Pews
- Give Money

Maudie N Mandeville said...

This is my favorite "dialogue" quote from the deep thinking Jesuit pope on Aug. 18, 2014; over 14 months ago; thousands of deaths ago, along with torture, rape, displacement, and ruination. 'Papa' will apparently be happy to know that as soon as his ideological brethren in the UN finish denouncing Israel and planning their Marxist economic takeover and redistribution of wealth, they may get around to "evaluating" the "seem"(ing) "unjust aggression?".

"In these cases, where there is an unjust aggression, I can only say that it is licit to stop the unjust aggressor," Francis said. "I underscore the verb 'stop.' I'm not saying 'bomb' or 'make war,' just 'stop.' And the means that can be used to stop them must be evaluated."

But, he said, in history, such "excuses" to stop an unjust aggression have been used by world powers to justify a "war of conquest" in which an entire people have been taken over.

"One nation alone cannot judge how you stop this, how you stop an unjust aggressor," he said, apparently referring to the United States. "After World War II, the idea of the United Nations came about: It's there that you must discuss, 'Is there an unjust aggression? It seems so. How should we stop it?' Just this. Nothing more."

"Is there an unjust aggression? It seems so." Deep thinker.

TLM said...

Rorate has another bombshell written by Edward Pentin today, on the 'latest' interview of Francis by his favorite atheist journalist, Scalfari. In it Scalfari says that Francis told him that divorced and remarried should only ask and they will be able to receive Communion. Fr. Lombardi, of course, denies that this is really the mindset of Francis, but my question is WHY does Francis continue to give interviews with this man who does not take notes and who has reported so many dissenting views from Francis in the past, if he didn't want the information 'out there'? Francis has to KNOW by this time what to expect from Scalfari. No one can tell me he DOESN'T.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, well, at a future time we may see that Bergoglio's pontificate was null and void from the start. Prelates canvassing for his election, praises by all the wrong crowds... yeah. When will the writing on the wall become legible for the faithful?

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, McCarrick was pushing Bergoglio in 2005 -- see the last page for the whole Team B.

http://ojs.uccs.edu/index.php/urj/article/view/2/4


Still he could have got the Masons to pay him to do what he was already doing -- wouldn't surprise.

Anonymous said...

The mumbled speech was the Italian man asking a favor from Cardinal Mc Carrick when he is back in the USA.. Washington DC.

Matthew said...

TLM, it is patently clear now that Scalfari is Bergoglio's back-channel mouthpiece. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge - subvert, undermine, corrupt - but keep "plausible deniability", and feed the faithful pigeons a few crumbs of orthodoxy from the other side of his mouth. The publication of this wickedness by the Vatican (even if pulled down occasionally, and only momentarily, when it generates a bit of heat), and the lack of any correction of the record - ever - while he repeatedly speaks through this atheist should tell even the most hardened optimist just what this man truly believes.

"Dialogue" was the instrument of the serpent in the garden.

Capt. Morgan said...

When will this heresy end? Who will step up and be our St. Athanasius?

Anonymous said...

The Masons are just the tools, the useful idiots.
To see who is really behind everything, start by reading The Controversy of Zion - by Douglas Reed. It's available free on the internet.
In fact, if more people had known about this book (and a few others), things would never have gotten so bad as they are today.

Anonymous said...

Thank You Vox, this is very important and should not be swept under the carpet through the passing of time. C Jorge was falsely elected and this is the bottom line and certainly explains *Why* we have an Anti-Pope. The Holy Spirit did not choose C Jorge, it is as clear as day.. The Holy Spirit is not a spirit of chaos and confusion.

Anonymous said...

"Be still and know that I Am God " Christ was the Word of God ,how few and solemn were His Words,his Apostles likewise followed His example ,they did not engage in endless chatter otherwise known as dialogue.They preached Christ Crucified,they imparted the Truth ,they did not compromise it.

Peter Lamb said...

Matthew,
"... it is patently clear now that Scalfari is Bergoglio's back-channel mouthpiece. Wink-wink, nudge-nudge - subvert, undermine, corrupt - but keep "plausible deniability", and feed the faithful pigeons a few crumbs of orthodoxy from the other side of his mouth."
Spot on! Modernist modus operandi in a nutshell!

Capt. Morgan,
"... Who will step up and be our St. Athanasius?"
Bishop Sanborn! :)

Anonymous @ 11:06 pm,
"... The Masons are just the tools, the useful idiots."
Spot on! Let's keep it kosher!

susan said...

" At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death...Then scandals will be multiplied...There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error...Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER.”

St. Francis of Assisi