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Thursday, 28 January 2016

Lutheran heretic "bishop" declares Pope has Catholic "enemies" limiting his freedom to speak - Bishop Kiss Me is back at work!

In Edward Pentin's National Catholic Register report on the scandalous provision of Holy Communion to Lutheran heretics there was a paragraph that seems to have escaped attention:




Mr. Salmi
What does Mr. Salmi mean by "unity between different denominations?" He states that the Bishop of Rome "repeatedly indicated" it. Is Salmi a liar or is it true? If it is true, what does the occupant on the Seat of Peter think about the Church, that She is just one of many "denominations?" That those who separated from Her need to returning? Is this not true ecumenism

More concerning of course is the homosexualist Salmi's next disclosure, that "Pope Francis has theological enemies" and that he "may be limited in how freely he can speak."


Should we presume that this is something that the Pope indicated to Salmi in a private conversation? as that is the take-away from such a statement - "Help, they're keeping me prisoner." 


Does Mr. Salmi think that it is Catholics against the Pope? One would have to assume that since he mentions "theological enemies in the Vatican" one must conclude, based on the evidence in front of us, that it is the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith or other "Catholics" who Francis who seem to intimidated the Pope into not speaking his mind.


Well, either Mr. Salmi is a liar or he is right based upon his report of his meetings with Francis. If he is right, and this is what the Pope thinks, then the Pope must reassess what it is he thinks about Catholic Theology.  


Frankly, (pardon the pun) Pope Francis seems to have no fear or limit to what he says.


One cannot be at war with oneself unless you are suffering under a serious mental defect or condition, and that may very well be the case. It is against the Law of Non-contradiction. You are either Catholic or you are not and that goes for laity and Pope alike.


Read now what Victor Manuel Fernandez had to say. If that is not someone you recall, this will help. He is the Pope's "ghostwriter" of Evangelii Gaudium, Laudato Si and presumably the Apostolic Exhortation on the Family, now moving back and forth between Francis and the CDF. He is also the author The Art of Kissing

This warped prelate is also suspected to be writing the Apostolic Exhortation expected soon according to Rorate. How bad will it be given what we've seen already from this errant cleric.

So, where is the truth? Is it as Mr. Salmi states or Archbishop Kissing? And who was that "powerful and influential man" that McCarrick spoke about who said, "Bergoglio can put us back on track." 

For those who say there is no crisis, I have some ice to sell in Nunavut.

Trusted theologian says Francis is stronger than adversaries inside the curia

Robert Mickens, Rome


The theologian widely acknowledged as the principal ghostwriter of Pope Francis’ apostolic exhortation, Evangelii Gaudium, says the Jesuit pontiff has already begun changing the Church in ways that cannot be reversed.
Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez, rector of the Catholic University of Argentina, said that, even if the pope’s adversaries tried to turn back the clock in the next pontificate, the People of God would not stand for it.
“The people are with (Francis) and not with his few adversaries,” he said in an exclusive published Sunday in the Italian daily, Corriere della Sera.
The 52-year-old Fernandez is one of the pope’s principal theological advisers. Francis, who had to fight Vatican opposition to name his fellow countryman university rector in 2009, appointed the theologian titular archbishop only two months after he became pope.
The archbishop said the 78-year-old Jesuit pope is patiently laying the groundwork for reforms that cannot be undone. 
“No, there’s no turning back,” he told the paper’s highly respected political analyst, Massimo Franco.
“If and when Francis is no longer pope, his legacy will remain strong,” the archbishop said.
“For example, the pope is convinced that the things he’s already written or said cannot be condemned as an error. Therefore, in the future anyone can repeat those things without fear of being sanctioned,” he added.
Archbishop Fernandez is one of the leading theological aides to the pope, who last year was appointed to a special commission inside the Synod of Bishops.
Below is our English translation of the bulk of his interview in the May 10 edition of Corriere della Sera.
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Archbishop Fernandez, in the two years since the pontificate began has resistance to the pope inside the Vatican increased or diminished?
“I don’t live in Rome and I can only talk about what I see when I go there. You have to make distinctions. I saw that some people in Rome were shocked at first, but now they understand the meaning of what Francis is calling for and they’re happy to be part of this path (he’s set out) for the Church, and they are helping the pope. Others tend to say: we’ll do what we can, go along with him as long as he’s here, because in the end he’s the pope. This group seems to be in the majority, even though I can’t confirm that. Others — really just a few — are, instead, going their own way. And from what one can see, they tend to ignore Francis’ teachings.”
Could you give us an example?
“I’ve read that some people say the Roman Curia is an essential part of the Church’s mission, or that a Vatican prefect is the sure compass that prevents the Church from falling into ‘light’ thought; or that this prefect ensures the unity of the faith and guarantees a serious theology for the pope. But Catholics, reading the Gospel, know that Christ assured special guidance and enlightenment for the pope and bishops all together, but not for a prefect or another structure. When you hear such things it almost seems as if the pope were their representative, or was someone who came to cause trouble and needs to be controlled.”
It doesn’t seem like that’s a line that’s being followed, though.
“It’s not, because most of the People of God love Francis. Maybe the council of nine cardinals could help to better clarify how far the jurisdiction of the most important prefects extends. But the thing that worries me most is that theologians are not offering new analyses on the Church, the theological reasons for its structures, the jurisdiction of national and regional episcopal conferences and the proper place of the Roman Curia in relation to the pope and the College of Bishops.
Some say Francis is isolated. Do you think that’s true?
“Not at all. The people are with him and not with his few adversaries. This pope first filled St. Peter’s Square with crowds and then began changing the Church. Above all, for this reason he is not isolated. The people sense in him the fragrance of the Gospel, the joy of the Spirit, the closeness of Christ and thus they feel the Church is like their home. But I would also say that he has a wide circle of people from whom he asks advice on various issues. He listens to more people than just those in the dicasteries of the curia, and in this way he is closer to the different voices in the Church and in society. I’m referring to those people he receives at Casa Santa Marta, to the requests that arrive in letters, to the encounters in the squares. It’s exactly for this reason that today the Church is listened to more in the international debates and world leaders look at her with great respect.”
No doubt, and in a deep and clear way, especially at the beginning. And yet, more recently, there’s a certain anxiety. Thing are proceeding more slowly. The reform of the curia seems to be stalled.
“The pope goes slow because he wants to be sure that the changes have a deep impact. The slow pace is necessary to ensure the effectiveness of the changes. He knows there are those hoping that the next pope will be turn everything back around. If you go slowly it’s more difficult to turn things back. He makes this clear when he says ‘time is greater than space.’”
When Francis says he will have a short pontificate doesn’t this help his adversaries?
“The pope must have his reasons, because he knows very well what he’s doing. He must have an objective that we don’t understand yet. You have to realize that he is aiming at a reform that is irreversible. If one day he should intuit that he’s running out of time and he doesn’t have enough time to do what the Spirit is asking him, you can be sure he will speed up.”
Would it be possible to have a pope without Vatican or away from the Vatican?
“The Roman Curia is not an essential structure. The pope could even go and live away from Rome, have a dicastery in Rome and another one in Bogota, and perhaps link-up by teleconference with liturgical experts that live in Germany. Gathered around the pope, in a theological sense, is the College of Bishops in order to serve the people.”
Aren’t you worried that his pontificate will quickly be tossed aside after he’s no longer pope?
“No, there’s no turning back. If and when Francis is no longer pope, his legacy will remain strong. For example, the pope is convinced that the things he’s already written or said cannot be condemned as an error. Therefore, in the future anyone can repeat those things without fear of being sanctioned. And then the majority of the People of God with their special sense will not easily accept turning back on certain things.”
Don’t you see the risk of “two Churches”?
“No. There’s a schism when a group of important people share the same sensibilities that reflect those of a vast section of society. Luther and Protestantism came about that way. But now the overwhelming majority of the people are with Francis and they love him. His opponents are weaker than what you think. Not pleasing everyone does not mean provoking a schism.”
Isn’t this idea of the pope having a direct rapport with the people something risky, while the Church’s ecclesiastical class feels marginalized?
“But the Church is the People of God guided by their pastors. Cardinals could disappear, in the sense that they are not essential. The pope and the bishops are essential. Then again, it is impossible that everything a pope does and says will please everyone. Did everyone like Benedict XVI? Unity does not depend on unanimity.
Do you think a conclave would re-elect Francis today?
“I don’t know, possibly not. But it happened, and everything one could image before or after the conclave is not important. The only thing that matters and that’s important is that the voting is done in the conclave, with the special assistance of the Spirit. We believe the Holy Spirit guides the conclave and you cannot contradict the Holy Spirit. If some (cardinals) now have regrets it doesn’t change anything.”
Do you think Francis could be forced to leave Casa Santa Marta for security reasons, because of a terrorist attack by Islamic fundamentalists?
“He doesn’t think like that. And I haven’t found any decisive arguments for that to happen. Then again, I think those that organize these big attacks have a certain intelligence and are able to distinguish between the United States of Bush and the Vatican. Certainly, there could be an isolated fanatic … No, I think Francis will remain at Casa Santa Marta, strong and with great confidence.

11 comments:

Barona said...

"For example, the pope is convinced that the things he’s already written or said cannot be condemned as an error. Therefore, in the future anyone can repeat those things without fear of being sanctioned".

My how Fernandez picks and chooses! Am I to presume that he will accept me as a Catholic because I adher to the Syllabus of Errors; or Quanta Cura, or Pascendi, or Quas Primas? I repeat ALL those things knowing - in his words - I can do so "without fear of being sanctioned". Could Fernandez also explain why, when the SSPX repeats all these things they are not allowed into the life of the Church? Could he also explain how Cardinal Koch does not hold his optimistic view. Is not the Cardinal on record for stating the SSPX are not Catholic, precisely because they keep repeating what the Church has always taught?

No, what this malefactor is doing is trying to use Catholic words to promote non-Catholics thought. A typical Modernist he uses the same words, but with a completely different meaning. This man truly is the worst possible advisor a Pope could seek. He has no conception of Truth; he is an historicist.

Karl Rahner Jr. said...

Wow, what a stunning admission.

No need for conspiracy theories anymore since they are telling us exactly what the plan and methodology is:

"For example, the pope is convinced that the things he’s already written or said cannot be condemned as an error. Therefore, in the future anyone can repeat those things without fear of being sanctioned."

Anonymous said...

The comment that something done by a mortal man can not be undone is a frequent meme of the Left and silly latin hubris. Bergoglio and Fernandez will die and their words and works will die with them no matter how good or bad. Bergoglio will have far less impact because the people who most support him believe the faith the least and want it to mirror their sinful brokenness.

I should mention that pray every day for Pope Francis's demise.

Dorota said...

Vox, you said:

"One cannot be at war with oneself unless you are suffering under a serious mental defect or condition, and that may very well be the case."

This idea that Jorge Bergoglio might be suffering a mental illness could easily be used as an excuse for indifference in face of his babblings.

What reason do we really have to believe it? We have indisputable evidence of very clever and focused machinations to set up the synod for a desired outcome, we have testimonies of those who new Bergoglio's duplicity back in Argentina, we have his well-known push (from way back in Argentina), supported by books co-written with religious of other faiths, for unity of religions. That rabbi lives in close quarters to Bergoglio's in the Vatican now, I heard.

Clearly we see a consistent agenda over decades.

I have noticed while confronted with "Catholic" modernists/progressives that they vehemently oppose all suggestion to switch to faiths corresponding with their beliefs. One said to me, while openly espousing anti-Catholic views: "I have a right to be a Catholic".

This is not mental illness. This is lack of integrity, a malformed intellect and conscience which are sold as high sophistication and ability to dialogue today.

Some are so called useful idiots, others - clever plotters.

The guy on the photo looks like a clown.

Guardian said...

This man is clearly an enemy of God's, the Church and faithful Catholics everywhere. There is nothing else to say other than resist and fight till you have nothing left.

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Anonymous said...

The pomposity of these people is revealed in their rare unguarded comments. Interesting Abp Fernandez believes that a terrorist attack on the Vatican is unlikely because the islamists make the distinction between the Pope and Bush's US! Wow, it's a relief to know terrorists have such fine sensibilities and respect for the Christian world leader.

Ah, nothing to worry about, the terrorists "love" the Pope and his Progressivists! After all, we know from the pope's video that we all love allah together. Everyone is pure goodness except those oppressed by American free markets and global warming! Only right-wing extremists like in the USA would cause violence, no doubt by imposing their old-fashioned rigid morality.

What an insular, if not purely imaginary, way of thinking! They actually think thus:

We are progressives, we are "changing" the direction of the Church, getting up with the times, going to peripheries, all inspired by the Holy Spirit! The New Church values are Solidarity (a political not religious term), diversity (ie ecumenism), socialism! And those Sacred 3 "L"'s - Land, Lodging & Lust (or whatever the heck they are). Yes, a global Open Society, no borders, love is all we need... ah, we are so enlightened we are safe from all violence! ???

Guess we don't have to worry about the recent IS press release announcing they will have St. Peter's in ruins.

Barona said...

Dear friends, follow Antonio Spadaro on Twitter.... you will see where we are headed.

Anonymous said...

Consider that this is the the man these people look up to ,and who Pope Francis wants Catholics to embrace Someone needs to remind them of their spiritual leaders beliefs which are disgusting in the extreme. http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/01/26/luther-in-his-own-words/

Eirene said...

That Fernandez character looks like a freak-show! First Impressions
are 70% visual, I understand - the rest of it (millions and millions of meaningless words) complete the picture! You choose! I already have.

Russell Koch said...

A humanist for sure. If only one person on Earth was faithful to Christ, then the Church would consist of one person. From his secular view that the Church is a political democracy and the Pope is in a popularity contest to his reduction of the faithful laity to Godlessness, this creepy bastard is so full of carefully worded hate and disdain, it is nauseating. His parting shot that muslim terrorists are "intelligent" and will attack the United States (of Bush) instead of the Pope is diabolical. He is at once raising up evil, denigrating the US, besmirching a retired President (but not the sitting one who is noble) and turning Francis in to a deity.

Kathleen1031 said...

My instinct, looking at this photo is pretty much the same I get when I look at a photo of Cardinal Wuehrl. I'm not sure I spelled that correctly, but you get my point.

Diabolical madness. God will decide how long we must suffer these mere mortals.