Sunday, 1 November 2015

Pope Francis allegedly tells Scafari, "All the divorced who ask will be admitted" presumably to Holy Communion

The Vatican denies the statement by Scalfari.
One Peter Five takes it apart.

It has been said that Bishop Bergoglio of Rome does not read anything on the Internet and reads only one newspaper. 

The one that published this:

In the same phone conversation of the past Wednesday, he declared himself very interested in the article I had dedicated to him two Sundays beforehand. He asked me what I thought of the conclusions of the Synod on the family. I responded -- as I had already written -- that the compromise that the Synod had reached did not seem to take into account the changes had had taken place in the family in the past fifty years, [and] therefore pointing towards the recovery of the traditional family was an objective that was completely unthinkable. I added that the open Church willed by him finds herself before a family that is open both in its goodness and in its wickedness, and that it is this that the Church finds before her.

"It is true -- Pope Francis answered -- it is a truth and for that matter the family that is the basis of any society changes continuously, as all things change around us. We must not think that the family does not exist any longer, it will always exist, because ours is a social species, and the family is the support beam of sociability, but it cannot be avoided that the current family, open as you say, contains some positive aspects, and some negative ones. ... The diverse opinion of the bishops is part of this modernity of the Church and of the diverse societies in which she operated, but the goal is the same, and for that which regards the admission of the divorced to the Sacraments, [it] confirms that this principle has been accepted by the Synod. This is bottom line result, the de facto appraisals are entrusted to the confessors, but at the end of faster or slower paths, all the divorced who ask will be admitted." [Rorate translation, emphasis added]


Dorota said...

He loves sheep entrusted to him so much, he informs his favourite atheist ahead of us. Anyway, there were reports years ago, that he encouraged some Argentinian divorced, who contacted him, because they were denied Holy Communion in own parishes, to seek out a parish, where it would not be a problem. If we didn't know about this, it was because we didn't want to know what we knew.

Ana Milan said...

Our worst fears are being realised. Next will be the sodomites. I hope Cardinals Sarah, Burke, Pell etc. will denounce PF as a heretic and call for him to resign. His Pontificate has been a drastic failure. Presumably if we are confronting a schism the traditional priestly orders will be able to effectively administer the sacraments to a much broader expanse of the faithful than they have been allowed up until now by the CDF? Our Lady's prophesy is coming to a head and we must ardently pray whilst awaiting her victory.

Downyduck said...

Bishops' diverse opinions? I don't get it... isn't there only one Truth? Why is MODERN man so special and gets a pass to commit sin with no temporal consequences? Does anyone wonder what Pope Emeritus Benedict thinks about all this? The Pope who had the language of our liturgy painstakingly altered word by word to more accurately reflect Scripture is followed by a Pope who just sweeps offending Scripture aside in the name of "mercy."

Anonymous said...

That's one way of trying to fill the empty seats .

Eirene said...

Dear Vox - Have we all become so paralysed by evil that we cannot lift our voices up in unison to say - No More! What we have seen over the past two years of Francis' pontificate has been beyond
appalling. That there was even the remotest possibility of collusion of prelates before the voting in of Francis as pope has been ignored; swept under the carpet and supposedly forgotten. That
this one man and his bevy of heretic prelates can even dare to
destroy Christ's Church and scatter the faithful flock is breathtaking in its presumption that their evil will go undetected and unpunished. The whole lot of them should be sacked - from the top to the bottom - excommunicated and laicized and then go off to
join other more flexible Christian (so-called) organisations where they can spin their ghastly webs and trap as many as they can with
their lies and deceit. And then await the end of their days. They are NOT the Church - they are not even the bootlace of the Church.
Away with them - let it be done as soon as possible before we are
called upon to endure more of this evil charade they are playing out
before the face of Almighty God. Lord deliver us from the heretics and their evil schemes. St. Michael intercede for us.

Barona said...

Edward Pentin asks the question: why is he telephoning this man? Notice Lombardi has also equivocated. Finally, I believe this may well be the classic two steps forward, one step back.

The fact remains - and it is now two years of this - the Pope REFUSES to REAFFIRM Familiaris Consortio. He has also put into positions of authority leading adulterists.
Therefore he is, at minimum, an enabler of the adulterist Party. This is malfeasance of office. The fact that the ENTIRE problem could have been ended in less than five minutes after it arose (all the Pope needed to do is publicly address Familiaris Consortio at a major Feast or at an Angelus). The Pope has not done so.

Greg J Ben said...

Pentin asks the right question:

>>>This exchange appears no different, which raises the question: why does the Pope continue to speak to someone such as Scalfari, and discuss such sensitive subjects with him, when he knows he is unreliable but likely to report his words without reference to a recording or transcript?<<<

Are we talking here about 2 old farts who like to chat with each other just because they are age-related and clicked?

Or is it because Bergolgio is more inclined to chat and be friends with people who are not "Church-rigid", stuck in the past, in tradition, in the Bible, Jesus and stuff like that, which is not "cool" in this day and age?

Or is it because of all of the above or maybe Bergolgio has some sexual attraction, or as the Vatican likes to say, "tendencies" toward Scafari since they first met?

We are waiting for an answer...The TRUTH.

TLM said...

Ooops......AGAIN! I left info on another blog to you all about this, but as usual, I didn't scroll down to see that you were about 10 steps ahead of me as usual Vox:)

But yes, Pentin does indeed ask the right question. You cannot tell me that Francis does not know what will come of his 'phone interview'. He knows darn well this will be transmitted to the world. My feeling is that he is just getting us primed.