Wednesday, 7 October 2015

Why didn't Father Thomas J. Rosica report on these comments? We blog, you decide!

The Rigging of a Vatican Synod?Edward Pentin who wrote the book, The Rigging of a Vatican Synod?, which seems to be happening again, notwithstanding, is an invaluable correspondent. He is the reporter, who, during last year's Synod to destroy the family reported on Cardinal Kasper's slanderous comments about Africans. Kasper denied it, Pentin proved it and then Kasper, Cardinal priest tried to discredit his career. Pentin is owed much thanks for his reporting.

Before moving on to the specifics, understand that by their natures, Synod's are public and open and there is voting. This meeting in Rome has no business being called a Synod. I have a right to know what my bishop, Thomas Cardinal Collins says and thinks. I have a right to know how he votes on each issue, each point. Yet, Jorge Bergoglio, the Bishop of Rome, our Pope, has decided otherwise. We cannot know which bishop said what. We cannot know how they vote because they cannot vote on each individual point or resolution but on the whole - and up or down vote. What kind of travesty is this on the Church of Christ and the Catholic faithful. The buck stops at the top, right at the desk of the Pope himself.


Now, let us get to the issue at hand. It is important for you to read again the following paragraph which needs to be deeply absorbed and understand so that you understand what is at stake.

"Doctrine changes when pastoral contexts shift and new insights emerge such that particularly doctrinal formulations no longer mediate the saving message of God's transforming love?" Does he mean that "Doctrine changes when the Church has leaders and teachers who are not afraid to take note of new contexts and emerging insights?" Or does he mean that, "It changes when the Church has pastors who do what Francis has been insisting: leave the securities of your chanceries, of your rectories, of your safe places, of your episcopal residences go set aside the small minded rules that often keep you locked up and shielded from the world?" Father Thomas J. Rosica, on video stating it numerous times without accreditation to the originator, Prof. Richard Gaillardetz.

The salt has lost its savour and the light is not shining because yesterday, when Father Thomas Rosica opined about different regions or continents or countries doing different things on communion for the divorced and remarried and mused in some way or another about polygamy and that we are mean in our language to "homosexuals" he didn't tell you all of these little points which follow. Why are these not highlighted? Is it because they don't serve the narrative?

But Pentin does:
* A number of synod fathers spoke in support of Cardinal Peter Erdo’s introductory speech, including one who underlined the importance of keeping fidelity to truth about marriage, the family and the Eucharist.
* A synod father asked “What are we doing here?” and stressed the synod is about the family, not other relationships such as homosexual ones. He also stressed that if the synod accepts the divorced-remarried issue, the Church effectively “supports divorce”.
* Another said the emphasis should be the sacrament of marriage, so the spiritual beauty of marriage is brought to the fore. Often the Church is not united around the “positive vision” of marriage and family. He said instability around marriage is “against its nature”.
* A synod father referenced St. Augustine, saying some of the baptized living in “irregular situations” don’t want to approach the Sacrament of Penance; he said the crisis of the family is a crisis of faith. He quoted 2 Timothy 4:2-5
* Another intervention noted the flock are too few, and that one should show respect for families which battle and try to remain faithful, those who in particular remain faithful to their marital vows given before God, although there are controversies and difficulties.
* A further intervention stressed that the Church has to defend that which God revealed about marriage and family and that the work of prelates is to support healthy families. A danger for families are “certain cultural dreams,” as well as a sociological approach. In order to serve the family one has to take point of departure the word of God.
The secular media has had a great time today making much over these statements. The homo-fascist sodomite lobby will use it all to their advantage to slander the Catholic faith and those of us who will take it, God-willing please, to our graves.

Yet, where is the truth? 


We find exactly what we suspected. That the communication from the Synod is, in fact, being manipulated because you are being lead to believe one thing when another is actually happening. To read the Zenit interview with Father Thomas J. Rosica, you would be lead to believe that every bishop stated those issues reported and specifically, on the matter of homosexuality. Yet, today from Rome, Father Paul Nicholson is reporting that:

"Yesterday, during a press conference at the Holy See office, the English spokesman transmitted to the media sentiments that sounded like consensus in the Synod.  He stated that there must be an end to "exclusionary language", "in particular in regards to homosexuals and gay persons" (We discovered today, October 7th, that in fact, only one or two bishops actually mentioned homosexuality, it wasn't a broad consensus as reported)."
Father Nicholson's comment is confirmed by none other than Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput. 
"One or two people that mentioned that, it was not a dominant part of the conversation."
Did you read that? "One or two," yet, we are lead to believe from the reporting that it was a major issue. The comment by Archbishop Chaput begins at the 35:00 minute mark with a question from the National Schismatic Reporter which has never been permitted to use the word "Catholic" in its name. So what we find is in fact, is that yesterday, there was not a complete and open reportage of the days events. 

There is no salt and there is no light, it has all lost its savour, it is all just pepper and darkness and it deserves to be trampled under foot.

5 comments:

Dorota said...

T. Rosica controls the message in the most dishonest way possible. He was put in his position to do exactly that. He is no father, he is a Judas. I won't ask: How can sleep at night? This kind sleep very well. To them the end justifies the means. When I, as a young university student who has absorbed too much of Frankfurt School drivel, stopped believing in some of Church dogmas, I did the honourable, honest thing - I left the Church. This kind will not leave, not even when they lost faith in God. Especially then they refuse to leave, because they want everyone to be like them.

Barona said...

What Fr. Rosica is reporting, what the Washington Post et al are reporting is in total contradiction with what I have read on Archbishop Stanislaw Gadecki's blog. Fr. Rosica may be unaware, but this Prelate keeps copious notes on interventions.
There have been a few heretical mutterings, but the vast majority of bishops have not opined on "divorce", nor on "homosexuality". Contrary to media reports the bishops were NOT pushing back against Cardinal Erdo. This is absolutely false.

Further, the Archbishop also wrote a blog last October 2014. I have read it three times, carefully searching for discussions about homosexuality. I found one reference, and it came from an African bishops who did not speak favourably about that sin.

If Fr. Rosica and his underling, Alica Ambrosio, still wish to maintain their contention that the Synod fathers brought up homosexuality (as she claimed on The Agenda) then I suggest that Fr. Rosica take up the matter with His Grace. Better yet, why does he not threaten to sue the Archbishop?

Mark Thomas said...

I realize that among many Catholics, there is concern and animosity as to Father Thomas Rosica's selective recaps of the bishops' interventions at the Synod.

Yes, based upon Father Rosica's spin, the Synod is all about the promotion of sexual perversion.

Just seconds ago, I searched Google News for news on the Synod. Here are the first few results of that search...

-- Catholic bishops push for open discussion on divorce, gays at ...

USA TODAY-Oct 6, 2015

Thomas Rosica, English-language assistant to the Vatican press office, said ... The three-week synod concludes Oct. 25, when bishops are ...


-- Church should shun derogatory words on gays, Vatican synod told
Reuters-Oct 6, 2015

-- Catholic church should shun derogatory words on gay people ...
ABC Online-22 hours ago

-- Vatican: Pope reminded Synod that divorced and remarried not only ...
National Catholic Reporter-Oct 6, 2015

-- Pope aims to assure conservatives marriage doctrine safe
Philly.com-Oct 6, 2015

-- Story image for Synod Vatican bishops rosica from Huffington Post

Vatican: Gay People Are 'Our Sons And Daughters'

Huffington Post-52 minutes ago

Among the first six headlines via the Google News search, four stories referenced the promotion of the homosexual agenda. But in regard to Father Rosica, let us keep in mind that he enjoys his place of prominence as the result of powerful Churchmen who have elevated him to his current status.

His situation is akin to people who, when they criticize the Novus Ordo, heap blame upon the Novus Ordo's "chief architect" Monsignor Bugnini. The fact is that Pope Blessed Paul VI alone possessed the power to impose the Novus Ordo upon the Church.

Pope Blessed Paul VI alone had the power to place Monsignor Bugnini in position to help create the Novus Ordo. Pope Blessed Paul VI alone authorized the changes to the Roman Liturgy.

The same principle is at work in regard to Father Rosica. Somebody with far greater authority than Father Rosica placed Father Rosica in position to spin in radical terms the Synod on the Family.

Somebody with greater authority than Father Rosica obviously is pleased with the work that Father Rosica has performed. That is why Father Rosica enjoys the platform that he occupies.

Father Thomas Rosica is simply a messenger who delivers a certain spin to the news media who, in turn, report to the public. I realize that the news media are spinmeisters.

However, in fairness to the news media, in this case, they reported simply the information that Father Rosica had delivered to them.

Who are the powerful Churchmen who employ Father Rosica to promote their (the Churchmen in question) agenda?

Pax.

Mark Thomas

Anna Sze said...

'the church should remove derogatory words' Is he stating that God's words, Christ's words, are derogatory? Let's look at Holy Scripture..Genesis 19:4-29 "..the men of Sodom surrounded the house...Where are the men who came to stay tonight? Bring them out to us!" The men of Sodom wanted to have sex with them.....Suddenly the Lord rained burning sulfur on the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah and destroyed them.."
Leviticus 18:22-30 "..no man is to have sexual relations with another man; GOD HATES THAT. No man or woman is to have sexual relations with an animal.....You know that whoever doe any of these disgusting things will no longer be considered one of God's people.."
Leviticus 20: 13-14 "..If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a DISGUSTING thing, and both shall be put to death. They are responsible for their own death.."
Judges 19:22-30 "..all of a sudden some SEXUAL PERVERTS from the town surrounded the house and started beating on the door...Bring out that man that came home with you! We want to have sex with him!.."
Romans 1:18-32 "God's anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known....their thoughts have become complete NONSENSE, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but are fools...God has given those people over to do the FILTHY things their hearts desire...even the women pervert the natural use of their sex by UNNATURAL ACTS. In the same way men give up their NATURAL SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH WOMEN and burn with passion for each other, and as a result they bring upon themselves the punishment they deserve for their wrongdoing....THEY DO NOT KEEP THEIR PROMISESES, AND THEY SHOW NO KINDNESS OR PITY FOR OTHERS.......THEY KNOW GOD'S LAW.....YET, NOT ONLY DO THEY CONTINUE TO DO THESE VERY THINGS, BUT THEY EVEN APPROVE OF OTHERS WHO DO THEM."
Corinthians 6:9-11 "...the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom....PEOPLE WHO ARE IMMORAL...OR ARE ADULTERERS OR HOMOSEXUAL PERVERTS...NONE OF THESE WILL POSSESS GOD'S KINGDOM."
Timothy 1:9-11 "..laws are made, not for good people, but for lawbreakers...the godless and sinful, ...for murderers, for the immoral, FOR THE SEXUAL PERVERTS, for those who lie...OR WHO DO ANYTHING ELSE CONTRARY TO SOUND DOCTRINE. THAT TEACHING IS FOUND IN THE GOSPEL THAT WAS ENTRUSTED TO ME TO ANNOUNCE (NOT A DEACONESS) , THE GOOD NEWS FROM THE GLORIOUS AND BLESSED GOD."
I am not a theologian Vox, I cling, in the misery I am, to God, to Holy Scripture, I cling to the Word of God, unchangeable, undeniable, Holy and True. Anyone who claims the words of the Church are derogatory, calls the Word of God, derogatory. I lament over this attack on Holy Truth, especially by consecrated people who dare to call themselves priests.
BTW, ANYONE WHO WISHES TO FORWARD TO THE LIARS WHO SAY 'NO WHERE IN THE BIBLE WILL YOU FIND ANYTHING ON HOMOSEXUALS' PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COPY AND PASTE. GOD BLESS !!

Anonymous said...

Bergoglio's people are all over the media (have been for a long time) pushing his "doctrine of development". The trolls are flooding the comments section of all major newspapers (those which still have comment section left) to help spread the message of the perverse articles. They are openly stating that the bible is wrong and the CC was in the wrong up to now, and that only the divine Francis knows how to interpret Jesus Christ's words. And yes, they are pushing also for same-sex marriage directly saying that God also meant that kind of union but the Catholic Church did not understand.
It seems that Cardinal Manning was right: Rome has lost the faith.

But Benedict is still alive, and doing well.