Saturday, 3 October 2015


Sodomite priest and theologian Monsignor Krzystof Charmsa has been dismissed today by the Vatican from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith and put under the authority of his bishop.

Late last evening, reports of Charamsa's Gay manifesto demanding changes to Church doctrine, the Catechesm and even Holy Scripture broke wide open. In a clear attempt to undermine his Prefect, Cardinal Muller, the Congregation and put undue pressure and influence on the Synod on the Family, Charamsa diclosed his activist homosexual beliefs and an agenda that is opposed to the Catholic faith. A theologian and professor at two Pontifical Universities, Father Federico Lombardi indicated that he would lose his positions.

The world's media has now caught on to this. They will pour out their venom upon the Church. They will use Kim Davis and the two sodomites the Pope met with in Washington against him and the Church. A short peruse of any combox shows the hatred that the world has towards the Catholic Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ for the salvation of souls. The world prefers sodomy with all its practices, they are all caught in the grip of the Father of Lies, Satan himself. This priest is now at least, honest. The devil has him and his sodomite friend by the throat and he will drag them down to Hell. 

This priest has created a grave scandal, yet, is it not good to bring it all out into the light?

Sandro Magister states today that Charamasa's was "a coming-out that might be expected even by many homosexual priests who populate the entourage of Pope Francis, playing leading roles and in unprecedented numbers."

Charamasa is just one example of the boldness of these sodomites and how deep the penetration by these filthy degenerates is in the Holy Catholic Church.

As Adfero at Rorate Caeli states:

And, one other nugget: According to the pope's spokesman, this priest being an active homosexual, that was not what got him fired from his numerous posts. No, that merits "respect," according to the Vatican. The only reason they fired him is because he held a press conference before the start of the Synod of Sex which would put the Synod fathers through "undue media pressure."


Who else in the CDF or other curial offices know of this filthy sodomite who committed sacrilidge (asuming he was not celibate and chaste) every time he celebrated the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass? Why is Lombardi only concernede about the media firestorm and not the fact that this priest was subverting the faith and in grave pyschological, moral and spiritual crisis? Where were was the concern for this priest's immortal soul? Where is it now?

I ask again, how many others?

Father Krzystof Charamsa, who held a post in the Vatican’s branch for protecting Catholic dogma, urged the Catholic church to change its ‘backwards’ attitude to homosexuality“I want the Church and my community to know who I am: a gay priest who is happy, and proud of his identity. I’m prepared to pay the consequences, but it’s time the Church opened its eyes, and realised that offering gay believers total abstinence from a life of love is inhuman”. Monsignor Krzysztof Charamsa, 43 and Polish, who has been living in Rome for 17 years, speaks with a calm smile on his face. He is not just any priest, but has been a member of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith since 2003, is assistant secretary of the International Theological Commission of the Vatican, and teaches theology at the Pontifical Gregorian University and the Pontifical Athenaeum Regina Apostolorum in Rome. Never before has a priest with such a high-profile role in the Vatican made a similar statement. Today, on the eve of the Synod on the family, Monsignor Charamsa will be in Rome at the LGBT Catholic International Meeting organized by the Global Network of Rainbow Catholics, to support the discussion on gay Catholics.
“The rule was introduced in 2005 when I was already a priest, and only applies to new ordinations. For me it was a shock. It didn't use to be like this, and I think this is a mistake that needs to be corrected”. Have you always known you are gay? “Yes, but at first I didn't accept the fact; I submitted zealously to the teaching of the Church and to the life it forced upon me, according to the principle that ‘homosexuality does not exist (and if it does, it needs to be destroyed)’”.
Why did you decide to come out?
The high-ranking Polish priest said that his decision to come out as gay was motivated by the Church's 'inhuman' attitude to homosexuality“There comes a day when something inside you snaps, and you can’t go on. If I had been alone I would have lived the nightmare of a denied homosexuality, but God never leaves us alone. And I think He has helped me take this important existential step. It’s important because of its consequences, but it’s also the premise for living honestly, which should be natural for every homosexual. The Church is already behind in tackling the issue, and we can't wait another 50 years, which is why I've decided to tell the Church who I am. I'm doing it for myself, for my community, and for the Church. It is also my duty towards the community of sexual minorities”.
What do you think you will achieve?“It seems to me that in the Church we are ignorant about homosexuality because we don't really know any homosexuals. We have them all around us, of course, but we never look them in the eye, because they seldom say who they are. I hope that my personal experience will help stir the Church’s consciousness in some way. I will personally reveal my identity to the Holy Father in a letter. And I will tell the universities in Rome where I teach who I am; to my great sorrow I will probably no longer be allowed to work in Catholic education”.
You are making this announcement on the eve of the Synod on the Family, which begins tomorrow at the Vatican. 
“Yes, I would like to tell the Synod that homosexual love is a kind of family love, a love that needs the family. Everyone – gays, lesbians and transsexuals included – foster in their hearts a desire for love and family. Everyone has the right to love, and that love must be protected by society and law. But above all it must be nourished by the Church. Christianity is the religion of love, and love is central to the figure of Jesus we bring to the world. A lesbian or gay couple should be able to openly say to their Church: ‘we love each other according to our nature, and offer this gift of our love to others, because it is a public matter, not just a private one; we are not merely engaged in some extreme pursuit of pleasure’”.
But this is not how the Church sees things.
“No, this is not the position of current Church doctrine, but similar views have been aired in theological scholarship. Above all in Protestant scholarship, but we also have excellent Catholic theologians who have given important contributions in the field”.
Catholic Catechism based on the Bible defines homosexuality as an “intrinsically disordered” tendency... 
“The Bible says nothing on the subject of homosexuality. It instead speaks of acts that I would call “homogenital”. Even heterosexual people may perform such acts, as happens in many prisons, but in that case they are acting against their nature and therefore committing a sin. When a gay person engages in those same acts, they are instead expressing their nature. The biblical sodomite has nothing to do with two gays that love each other in modern-day Italy and want to marry. I am unable to find a single passage, even in St Paul, that may be seen as referring to homosexual persons asking to be respected as such, since at the time the concept was unknown”.
Catholic doctrine excludes gays from the priesthood: how did you manage to become a priest?
How did you go from denial to being happy about being gay? 
“Through study, prayer and reflection. A dialogue with God and the study of theology, philosophy and science were crucial. Moreover, I now have a partner who has helped me transform my fears into the power of love”.
A partner? Is that not even more irreconcilable with being a Catholic priest?
“I know that the Church will see me as someone who has failed to keep a promise, who has lost his way, and what’s worse, not with a woman, but a man! I also know that I will have to give up the ministry, even though it is my whole life. But I'm not doing this so that I can live with my partner. The reasons are much wider-ranging and based on a reflection on Church doctrine”.
Could you explain?
“If I failed to be open, if I didn't accept myself, I couldn't be a good priest in any case, because I couldn't act as an intermediary for the joy of God. Humanity has made great progress in its understanding of these issues, but the Church is lagging behind. This is not the first time, of course, but when you are slow to understand astronomy the consequences are not as serious as when the delay regards people's most intimate being. The Church needs to realise that it is failing to rise to the challenge of our times”. English translation by Simon Tanner


Sandpiper said...

This appears "staged" like so much else that has happened this week. I forecast ultimately he will be embraced and get his position back. This bold gesture is simply to shock the Faithful and cause despair and make them further vilified by the world.

Cecy Gzz said...

Yet he remains INSIDE! spreading his poison. What a mess.

Anonymous said...

"The rule was introduced in 2005 when I was already a priest, and only applies to new ordinations"

Is this what has been taught an passes for sound argument in theological circles in the Vatican? Before 2005 homossexual were welcomed and THEN stopped being so?

If a THEOLOGIAN and a PROFESSOR can say such a nonsense and rise I can only imagine what goes on around the world.

Honestly, I ve met a few seminarians and new priests and Ilways end up thinking "Wow, has no one really noticed this guy is a faggot? Will the bishop allow him to work around teenager boys?"

I m starting to think they really noticed, and prefered it.

Maudie N Mandeville said...

Message received from the Vatican: We'll tell you when you can 'come out'. We will all do it together in unison with priests and bishops, worldwide.

Sandpiper said...

Rorate Caeli points out that he was not fired for his sodomiacal acts, but for speaking out before the Synod. And sadly, official communications from the Vatican have adopted Luciferian terminology, saying he was in a "gay" relationship. Never felt until this week that I had to shower after reading stuff coming out of the Vatican. The Enemy is within the gates.

Mark Thomas said...

I don't accept Rorate Caeli's interpretation in question.


It is imperative that Holy Mother Church takes appropriate disciplinary steps in Father Charasma's case. It is also imperative that we pray for and exhibit mercy and charity toward Father Charasma...not to mention his "partner."

They need our prayers. They require Holy Mother Church's forgiveness.

A powerful Sodomite mafia exists within the Church. They wish to destroy the Church. We need to combat them in proper holy and peaceful fashion.

The Church is in a holy war against the Sodomite mafia. It is they who initiated their satanic attack against Holy Mother Church. Darkness surrounds the Catholic Church.

Pray and fight in determined yet spiritual, and peaceful fashion for the Church. She is our Holy Mother. Therefore, we must defend Her in proper fashion.

Pray for Father Charasma (and his "partner"). They are confused men who have thrown in with the Culture of Death.

Condemn the sin...but exhibit Jesus' kindness and love toward them.

It has been yet another painful and devastating day for and within Holy Mother Church. Pray for Father Charasma and his "partner." Pray for each other. Pray for the Synod.

Pray that God may soon restore the TLM as the (Latin) Church's primary Mass. That is the key to the restoration of at least some measure of sanity to the Church. The restoration of the TLM wouldn't make all sin disappear...but the TLM would instill into a great many Catholics a strong sense of Catholic identity.


Mark Thomas

BillyHW said...

It's time we started asking our priests and bishops and popes whether they are heterosexual and homosexual. And then we need to stop patronizing the churches and dioceses of such homosexuals. No attendance. No money. Protect your children from them.

We need to make a giant list of all the priests, bishops and popes of the world who are homosexual and/or homosexual friendly and publish it on the internet.

This is a spiritual war and we need to first identify the enemy.

Anna Sze said...

"Yes, I would like to tell the Synod that homosexual love is a kind of family love"

This man is beyond delusional, how did he become a Theologian?
What family love, two sodomites cannot naturally have a family you moron ! Boy Satan has become bold !
"A lesbian or gay couple should be able to openly say to their Church: ‘we love each other according to our nature,"
According to our nature, what ?? Read Genesis, Charisma (yes I know that is not his name) "..and God created them man and woman.." Charisma, you know who else did not agree with God's plan? Well unless you repent, you and your lover will be meeting him in the eternal fires of hell.

Karl Rahner Jr. said...

Only under Francis would this happen. How many others are there?

XFitr4Life said...

Rorate Caeli's interpretation is spot on. The official response from the Vatican refuses to acknowledge the sin of homosexuality, but rather insists his termination was based upon information released that would generate undue media attention on the eve of the Synod. Mark Thomas is free to disagree with Rorate Caeli, but that report is as objective as any other you will find amidst those of the MSM.

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle... Amen.

Anonymous said...

These photos make me ill. This person is NOT a Priest of a Holy and Sinless God.
He is a priest of Belial.

What became of Sodom and Gomorrah? A Just, Patient and Holy God destroyed them.
As we witness these children of sodom infiltrate our Holy Church, I can only hope their fate is the same as Biblical Sodom.

Time for Excommunication to be used in the Name of God Almighty and His Church.

Damask Rose said...

God above. For a priest to even have his photo taken like that with his illicit partner... Truly God has let him become blind to it. These people have NO fear of God the Father. These people were destroyed in the fires of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Lynda said...

There is no such thing as a homosexual person, objectively. There are people who sinfully choose to publicly describe themselves in such terms, lying and misleading and scandalising others, and providing false excuses to make the evil of unnatural desires seem less so.

Anonymous said...

He stated he was dedicated to his partner ,are all religious not dedicated to God ,the new theology for the new religion ,serve thyself .

Mark Thomas said...


Yes, I disagree with Rorate Caeli's interpretation in question. Beyond whatever Father Lombardi may have said, I find it impossible to accept the idea that the timing alone of Father Charamsa's revelations of his homosexuality is what caused his sacking at the CDF.

Father Charamsa could have announced the details of his homosexual activities one month ago or one month into the future and the Holy See would have moved as they did against Father Charamsa.

Father Lombardi and his initial statement in question is not the one and only final word as to how the Holy See planned to respond to Father Charamsa's revelations in regard to his homosexual agenda.

Rorate Caeli has, at best, a mixed record...and that's being regard to their pronouncements.

Rorate Caeli just recently offered supposed "expert" analysis in regard to the preposterous claim that a "mafia" of Cardinals and bishops forced Pope Benedict XVI to resign the Papacy to, in turn, elect Cardinal Bergoglio.

Rorate Caeli led the charge in the Traditional Catholic Blogosphere to promote what, from the beginning, was clearly a false and absurd claim. It wasn't long before said story was discredited totally.

Rorate Caeli last year broke a story filled with supposed "exclusive" information about Bishop Olson of Fort Worth, Texas, supposedly having taken an anti-TLM stance.

Rorate Caeli declared in regard to their analysis of Bishop Olson and his attitude toward the TLM that they would "be offering deeper analysis in the days and weeks to come.

Guess what? Bishop Olson is very TLM-friendly and has established a TLM parish in Fort Worth. Once again, another Rorate Caeli "deep analysis" was discredit.

Sorry, but based upon so many Rorate Caeli claims and "expert" analyses that had flopped badly, I am not keep to accept Rorate Caeli's "expert" analysis of the situation in regard to Father Charasma.

Should somebody else wish to throw in with Rorate Caeli, then they are most certainly free to do so.


Mark Thomas

tuleesh said...

OK, so Padre Pretty Boy was not censured because he spit in the face of Church teaching aaaand he pulled a "Martin Luther?"
Mmm ka-ay.